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Tue Feb-02-10 07:17 AM
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| 55. It's a Bolshevik Plot! |
| -Some people JUST DON'T GET IT: A No-Pub-Option MANDATE to purchase from a cartel is NOT "reform" : |
Faryn Balyncd |
Feb-01-10 03:21 PM |
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screams the man with no pre-existing condition! |
Aramchek |
Feb-01-10 03:23 PM |
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You presumption is incorrect.... |
Faryn Balyncd |
Feb-01-10 03:30 PM |
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I am even more appreciative of your OP with your |
truedelphi |
Feb-01-10 04:44 PM |
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The devil is in the details, & that is a detail apparently only the lobbyists know. |
Faryn Balyncd |
Feb-01-10 04:53 PM |
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newsflash: this Bill is going forward |
Aramchek |
Feb-01-10 05:16 PM |
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I have few doubts about that. |
truedelphi |
Feb-01-10 06:01 PM |
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since when were people with pre-existing conditions able to be major donors? |
Aramchek |
Feb-03-10 04:01 PM |
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And the privateers still can charge older folks more, and there's no cost controls... |
cascadiance |
Feb-02-10 01:25 PM |
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The Washington crowd delivered exactly what the Big Medical Interests wanted. |
truedelphi |
Feb-02-10 05:18 PM |
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Feb-02-10 02:52 AM |
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They can still charge you so much - YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT! |
grahamhgreen |
Feb-01-10 05:17 PM |
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If everyone had healthcare, there would be no such thing as pre-existing conditions. |
TreeHugnLibra |
Feb-01-10 06:33 PM |
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Welcome to DU :) n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Feb-01-10 06:43 PM |
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Thanks. |
TreeHugnLibra |
Feb-02-10 05:57 PM |
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Good, I think we can use your two cents :))) n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Feb-02-10 08:05 PM |
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I DO have a pre-existing condition..... |
bonnieS |
Feb-02-10 04:37 AM |
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That's where the devil always is.. |
daleanime |
Feb-02-10 04:50 AM |
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I have "pre-existing" conditions, |
dotymed |
Feb-02-10 07:38 AM |
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You do realize that you guys are sinking to support what amounts to black mail |
liberation |
Feb-02-10 10:57 AM |
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being forced to buy an overpriced product that fat cats profit from is not choice |
yurbud |
Feb-02-10 11:09 AM |
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so you want to force people to become customers of predatory insurance companies out of altruism? |
yurbud |
Feb-02-10 11:10 AM |
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so you want to force people to become customers of predatory insurance companies out of altruism? |
yurbud |
Feb-02-10 11:10 AM |
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If you think this abomination is going to help you with yours, you're fooling yourself. |
Greyhound |
Feb-02-10 11:55 AM |
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Buying insurance is no guarantee of access to care |
dflprincess |
Feb-02-10 01:23 PM |
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ok so you got yours so fuck all to everyone else? |
PHIMG |
Feb-02-10 02:50 PM |
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You can have "insurance". |
nikto |
Feb-02-10 04:10 PM |
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I agree! |
TreeHugnLibra |
Feb-02-10 06:02 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Feb-01-10 03:24 PM |
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Thanks, but the "UN-REC PATROL" does not like the words of Howard Dean. |
Faryn Balyncd |
Feb-01-10 03:35 PM |
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Well, I do. REC! |
Bluebear |
Feb-01-10 04:42 PM |
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Rec. |
emilyg |
Feb-01-10 06:20 PM |
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The un-recers strike from the swampy depths early. |
freddie mertz |
Feb-02-10 08:31 AM |
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I definitely think the GOP needs to be held to task for killing health care reform. |
AndyA |
Feb-01-10 03:27 PM |
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The GOP is a minority in both houses. They can't block SHIT by themselves. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Feb-01-10 03:30 PM |
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Somone's been doing a pretty good job of blocking things this past year. |
AndyA |
Feb-01-10 03:36 PM |
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Right now, the GOP seems to like taking credit for killing it |
customerserviceguy |
Feb-02-10 07:37 AM |
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The way the polling on this is going, taking credit for killing it might be popular. |
timeforpeace |
Feb-02-10 03:26 PM |
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It's so obvious, so why are some folks still confused about this?? |
alberg |
Feb-01-10 03:29 PM |
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Single Payer is the only real reform n/t |
leftstreet |
Feb-01-10 03:31 PM |
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Some people don't get that "public option" is a meaningless catch-all |
lwcon |
Feb-01-10 03:34 PM |
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Medicare-for-All has meaning...but "P/O" as you say was a bait & switch. |
Faryn Balyncd |
Feb-01-10 03:37 PM |
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And thanks for "getting it" |
lwcon |
Feb-01-10 04:24 PM |
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Agreed. |
FiveGoodMen |
Feb-01-10 04:19 PM |
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"Real reform is single-payer or socialized medicine. "PO" was just a scam to distract progressives" |
slipslidingaway |
Feb-01-10 06:47 PM |
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+10. |
kath |
Feb-02-10 11:18 AM |
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public option is the only way |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-01-10 04:14 PM |
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"Public option" = nothing |
lwcon |
Feb-01-10 04:23 PM |
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that's not true.. |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-01-10 04:38 PM |
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For how many people? Under what terms? |
lwcon |
Feb-01-10 04:50 PM |
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Obama said that to save face... |
Green_Lantern |
Feb-02-10 09:19 AM |
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Totally agree. |
KonaKane |
Feb-01-10 04:25 PM |
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But then the obvious fact that our party has fucked up handling this issue will be out in the open! |
JVS |
Feb-01-10 04:26 PM |
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Maybe not, But EVERY FUCKING THING ELSE IN THE BILL IS! |
johnaries |
Feb-01-10 04:34 PM |
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We got 0% of what... |
sendero |
Feb-01-10 04:44 PM |
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Where are you getting 80% from? By my count, it's not even close. |
rudy23 |
Feb-01-10 04:46 PM |
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No, it isn't - it only guarantees trillions to big insurance that ethey will use to fight what |
grahamhgreen |
Feb-01-10 05:20 PM |
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ding, ding, ding, ding!! |
kath |
Feb-02-10 11:20 AM |
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K&R nt |
gulfcoastliberal |
Feb-01-10 04:39 PM |
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correct! |
BlueJac |
Feb-01-10 04:40 PM |
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newsflash - it's over |
seeinfweggos |
Feb-01-10 04:48 PM |
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That's what I was thinking. |
Pithlet |
Feb-01-10 04:55 PM |
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and now the "real reform" remember? nt |
seeinfweggos |
Feb-01-10 05:40 PM |
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I know. Not holding my breath. n/t |
Pithlet |
Feb-01-10 06:01 PM |
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I predict you'll see it addressed again before most of the measures in this bill would have |
laughingliberal |
Feb-01-10 08:58 PM |
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thrilled? |
Skittles |
Feb-02-10 02:53 AM |
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Gibbs says "We're one vote away" from passing the Senate bill & calling it "reform" |
Faryn Balyncd |
Feb-01-10 05:12 PM |
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god i hope you are right. nt |
seeinfweggos |
Feb-01-10 05:43 PM |
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Following this has been like a frigging roller coaster. |
Pithlet |
Feb-01-10 06:03 PM |
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no kidding. i've pretty much checked out on this. |
seeinfweggos |
Feb-02-10 05:24 PM |
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"We dared not follow blindly Dear Leader, now we must pay the consequences for making him look bad" |
liberation |
Feb-02-10 03:08 PM |
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It passes for reform in a corporatist world |
mdmc |
Feb-01-10 04:52 PM |
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rec rec rec rec rec !!!! |
grahamhgreen |
Feb-01-10 05:18 PM |
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Rec. nt |
bertman |
Feb-01-10 05:52 PM |
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kr+46 |
inna |
Feb-01-10 08:29 PM |
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That's what I've been saying for months! MAKE them filibuster before the p ublic on EVERY bill!! |
Roland99 |
Feb-02-10 04:41 AM |
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Glad to see a Single payer post... |
daleanime |
Feb-02-10 04:51 AM |
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Precinct caususes here tonight... |
DisgustedInMN |
Feb-02-10 06:51 AM |
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It's a Bolshevik Plot! |
Bobbie Jo |
Feb-02-10 07:17 AM |
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K&R |
valerief |
Feb-02-10 07:54 AM |
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K & R |
Better Believe It |
Feb-02-10 09:20 AM |
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Health Care... |
nimvg |
Feb-02-10 10:59 AM |
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K/R |
Echo In Light |
Feb-02-10 11:07 AM |
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*public option dead* ???!!! oopsie, 94 members in the HOUSE don't think so! |
thotzRthingz |
Feb-02-10 11:15 AM |
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*public option dead* ?! oopsie, 96 HOUSE members don't think so, see: whipcongress.com |
thotzRthingz |
Feb-02-10 12:09 PM |
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I have called my Reps (Glenn Nye) office... and I have also just emailed this message to him: |
thotzRthingz |
Feb-02-10 12:29 PM |
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now NINETY EIGHT (and counting) members in the HOUSE have signed-on... |
thotzRthingz |
Feb-02-10 12:40 PM |
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now ONE-HUNDRED-n-THREE (and counting) members in the HOUSE have signed-on... |
thotzRthingz |
Feb-02-10 02:32 PM |
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...make that 105, when also counting: |
thotzRthingz |
Feb-02-10 02:39 PM |
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...make that 109 House members, asking REID to include+pass a PUBLIC OPTION |
thotzRthingz |
Feb-02-10 03:18 PM |
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An incredible 92 House Democrats have signed the Polis-Pingree letter calling on the Senate to pass |
Jefferson23 |
Feb-02-10 11:35 AM |
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I want single payer |
LatteLibertine |
Feb-02-10 11:50 AM |
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Your premise is flawed |
Autonomy |
Feb-02-10 11:52 AM |
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"...cartels are unsustainable". Are you saying that Adam Smith was a socialist to oppose monopolies? |
Faryn Balyncd |
Feb-02-10 02:38 PM |
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Cartels and monopolies are two different things |
Autonomy |
Feb-03-10 02:03 AM |
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Oops. Wrong place. n/t |
Greyhound |
Feb-02-10 11:53 AM |
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The (air quote) Public Option (air quote) always was only smoke.... |
Desertrose |
Feb-02-10 11:55 AM |
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MEDICARE FOR ALL -- |
defendandprotect |
Feb-02-10 12:36 PM |
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K&R |
Cleita |
Feb-02-10 01:50 PM |
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Forcing us to buy private products is just the latest descent into fascism. |
Romulox |
Feb-02-10 01:51 PM |
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K&R!!!! |
jannyk |
Feb-02-10 01:52 PM |
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K & R |
Dinger |
Feb-02-10 02:05 PM |
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It is a very long bill. I don't think you can just describe it in a sentence and claim... |
Realityhack |
Feb-02-10 02:40 PM |
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Feb-02-10 03:20 PM |
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Collorfull. |
Realityhack |
Feb-02-10 03:33 PM |
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Rec |
mochajava666 |
Feb-02-10 02:44 PM |
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Non-Profits are screwed by the status quo. |
SanchoPanza |
Feb-02-10 03:15 PM |
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That was well written thank you. |
Realityhack |
Feb-02-10 03:35 PM |
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How can we expect politicians, who already get government healthcare |
TreeHugnLibra |
Feb-02-10 06:29 PM |
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