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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:00 PM
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56. I haven't lived in NYC for more than 25 years, and trickle down isn't working here yet. More
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 12:00 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
stores are closing.

That massive bailout targeted a certain type of NYer and landed right in their pockets. As to tax revenue..I wouldn't count on all that much revenue if those people know how to manage their tax planning ...shelters, etc.

Ask the working class and poorer people if they benefited. Ask the parents who had kids in one of the 19 schools that were just scheduled to be shut down.

Also check up on NYS and the money crunch my state government is in. It is not a pretty picture.

Oh well.... :hi:
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  -Daily Kos: Why FL just got High Speed Rail bluestateguy  Jan-29-10 02:04 AM   #0 
  - Amazing: the counties with higher populations & infrastructure needs are Democratic!  Bucky   Jan-29-10 02:16 AM   #1 
  - It's simple really- Republicans have a pathological hatred for mass transit  depakid   Jan-29-10 02:38 AM   #4 
  - Florida voted for high speed rail years ago  katmondoo   Jan-29-10 05:20 AM   #7 
     - Probably because Jeb Bush was smart enough to realize  Half and Half   Jan-29-10 06:28 AM   #10 
        - Did I just read the words "Bush" and "smart" used in the same sentence???  FBaggins   Jan-29-10 06:41 AM   #11 
        - Haven't you all noticed  peace frog   Jan-29-10 07:44 AM   #17 
        - Have you ever noticed that internet forums are full of  Half and Half   Jan-29-10 07:59 AM   #20 
           - Ah yes, the always expected and every-ready  peace frog   Jan-29-10 09:05 AM   #27 
           - Ah yes, the always expected and ever ready  Half and Half   Jan-29-10 10:02 AM   #35 
              - Here's a virtual hanky  peace frog   Jan-29-10 10:25 AM   #38 
              - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-29-10 10:28 AM   #39 
              - High speed rail works very well in Europe  LeftishBrit   Jan-29-10 11:47 AM   #54 
              - Explain in detail how that was an argumentum ad hominem.  Ignis   Jan-29-10 01:41 PM   #64 
           - You found "partisans" at a site called Democratic Underground?!  Ignis   Jan-29-10 01:40 PM   #63 
        - Jeb is touted as the "smart" brother  peace frog   Jan-29-10 10:23 AM   #37 
           - Welll sure... as a comparative term it's probably fine  FBaggins   Jan-29-10 10:36 AM   #40 
              - Yep.  peace frog   Jan-29-10 11:01 AM   #44 
        - Jeb does not get any credit for this.  tosh   Jan-30-10 04:02 AM   #76 
  - 13 corridors covering 30 states got money  sandnsea   Jan-29-10 02:29 AM   #2 
  - The 'conspiracy' is there are a number of corridors  elleng   Jan-29-10 02:57 AM   #6 
     - This is the most ignorant thread in the history of DU  sandnsea   Jan-29-10 08:51 AM   #25 
        - I MAY choose to ignore you, but not until I understand what you've said.  elleng   Jan-29-10 09:11 AM   #28 
           - Why don't you try again  sandnsea   Jan-29-10 09:21 AM   #30 
              - Sorry; I speak for myself.  elleng   Jan-30-10 03:50 AM   #75 
  - I believe this is a good decision. This area is well known to me,  juajen   Jan-29-10 02:33 AM   #3 
  - The same reason Ohio got 400 million  krawhitham   Jan-29-10 02:50 AM   #5 
  - Sadly, the trains here'll go 40 mph on average.  rucky   Jan-29-10 07:36 AM   #15 
  - good god. 10 hours?  yodoobo   Jan-29-10 07:50 AM   #19 
  - I heard somewhere the Ohio line will average 66mph, but still...  Half and Half   Jan-29-10 11:18 AM   #49 
  - The trains there share tracks freight haulers, like CSX  GoCubsGo   Jan-29-10 12:40 PM   #57 
  - Hey! How about the BLUE states? What reward do WE get?  FormerDittoHead   Jan-29-10 02:38 PM   #70 
  - Why just airport to Disney and back? What about the rest of FL?  Paper Roses   Jan-29-10 06:09 AM   #8 
  - I thought it was Tampa to Orlando  spinbaby   Jan-29-10 06:23 AM   #9 
  - Ahem..  GoCubsGo   Jan-29-10 08:37 AM   #24 
     - Thank you!  tosh   Jan-29-10 10:51 AM   #42 
     - The next step (if we're smart, and I don't think we are) would be to build  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-29-10 11:33 AM   #51 
  - Actually a commuter rail along the I-4 corridor might be a good idea  csziggy   Jan-29-10 11:44 AM   #53 
  - It's not just a political consideration.  Ganja Ninja   Jan-29-10 06:45 AM   #12 
  - Nelson's hcr vote.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-29-10 07:18 AM   #13 
  - Gee, it's too bad all they ever want from Ca is our money.  asdjrocky   Jan-29-10 07:20 AM   #14 
  - Your Senators' votes for hcr were pretty much a lock-in. They needed Nelson...and look  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-29-10 07:38 AM   #16 
  - Yeah, we don't even get anything for our money or our votes.  asdjrocky   Jan-29-10 08:23 AM   #22 
     - Same here in NY.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-29-10 08:55 AM   #26 
        - The MASSIVE bailout of Wall Street was also a MASSIVE bailout of New York.  Romulox   Jan-29-10 11:06 AM   #47 
           - I haven't lived in NYC for more than 25 years, and trickle down isn't working here yet. More  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-29-10 12:00 PM   #56 
  - There are lines proposed for CA, as well  GoCubsGo   Jan-29-10 08:34 AM   #23 
     - Thirteen lines were granted, they're a go  sandnsea   Jan-29-10 09:24 AM   #31 
     - Me, too.  GoCubsGo   Jan-29-10 10:09 AM   #36 
     - Lots of those routes can't possibly be economic, and are put in for political reasons  FarCenter   Jan-29-10 10:00 AM   #34 
        - That is mind-boggling  sandnsea   Jan-29-10 10:46 AM   #41 
           - I worked for a gov't run railroad in Calif. and I'm here to tell you that...  ourbluenation   Jan-29-10 11:02 AM   #45 
              - Well then Toledo would be a good idea  sandnsea   Jan-29-10 11:12 AM   #48 
                 - Look at the map -- the main line will go Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland  FarCenter   Jan-29-10 11:21 AM   #50 
                    - here  sandnsea   Jan-29-10 11:59 AM   #55 
                    - Detroit-Chicago is still a poor idea -- I think that the reason for no Toledo - Detroit route  FarCenter   Jan-29-10 12:57 PM   #58 
                       - Detroit-Chicago is 2nd most popular Amtrak line  sandnsea   Jan-29-10 01:36 PM   #61 
                          - All of 3 trains a day running at about 47 miles per hour  FarCenter   Jan-29-10 01:43 PM   #65 
                             - You should have said you oppose the whole thing  sandnsea   Jan-29-10 01:56 PM   #67 
                                - Does this sound like high-speed rail?  FarCenter   Jan-29-10 02:37 PM   #69 
                    - Kalamazoo already has a rail station  Occulus   Jan-29-10 01:05 PM   #60 
                       - Actually, they are only increasing top speed to 110 mph  FarCenter   Jan-29-10 01:46 PM   #66 
  - as a floridian, i think the state needs mass-transit intra-city upgrades, not a high speed rail line  KG   Jan-29-10 07:46 AM   #18 
  - True  BeFree   Jan-29-10 08:09 AM   #21 
  - Amtrak should work with the rental car companies to get as good facilities as the airports have  FarCenter   Jan-29-10 11:41 AM   #52 
     - Actually rental companies are close.  YOY   Jan-29-10 01:39 PM   #62 
        - Train stations are not as well organized with respect to rental cars as airports  FarCenter   Jan-29-10 02:12 PM   #68 
           - The size of most current train terminals prohibits that.  YOY   Jan-29-10 02:56 PM   #71 
              - They have electric cars?  BeFree   Jan-29-10 03:58 PM   #73 
                 - I think you just thought of a smart business concept.  YOY   Jan-29-10 04:12 PM   #74 
  - I agree. Here in South Florida, we've got TriRail, which is one reason high-speed rail was secured.  SteppingRazor   Jan-29-10 09:29 AM   #32 
  - I'd love to see a few other Mass Transit Lines:  RoadRage   Jan-29-10 09:16 AM   #29 
  - Oh HELL yeah.. I'd LOVE to see the train system join  annabanana   Jan-29-10 09:35 AM   #33 
  - DC to Boston?  YOY   Jan-29-10 02:57 PM   #72 
  - MA didn't get much  lwcon   Jan-29-10 10:53 AM   #43 
  - The logical corollary is that voting Repulican is how to get $$$ for national Dems  Romulox   Jan-29-10 11:04 AM   #46 
  - Good. This is why politics exist. To help the people. I wish we did this more  anonymous171   Jan-29-10 12:59 PM   #59 

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