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Fri Jan-29-10 11:21 AM
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| 50. Look at the map -- the main line will go Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland |
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So you can connect Detroit to both Chicago and Cleveland via a short spur from Toledo to Detroit.
Don't spend $10s of millions per mile to build a separate high-speed rail roadbed from Chicago to Detroit. (Unless you think going through Benton Harbor, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek and Ann Arbor is particularly important.)
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| -Daily Kos: Why FL just got High Speed Rail |
bluestateguy |
Jan-29-10 02:04 AM |
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Amazing: the counties with higher populations & infrastructure needs are Democratic! |
Bucky |
Jan-29-10 02:16 AM |
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It's simple really- Republicans have a pathological hatred for mass transit |
depakid |
Jan-29-10 02:38 AM |
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Florida voted for high speed rail years ago |
katmondoo |
Jan-29-10 05:20 AM |
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Probably because Jeb Bush was smart enough to realize |
Half and Half |
Jan-29-10 06:28 AM |
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Did I just read the words "Bush" and "smart" used in the same sentence??? |
FBaggins |
Jan-29-10 06:41 AM |
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Haven't you all noticed |
peace frog |
Jan-29-10 07:44 AM |
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Have you ever noticed that internet forums are full of |
Half and Half |
Jan-29-10 07:59 AM |
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Ah yes, the always expected and every-ready |
peace frog |
Jan-29-10 09:05 AM |
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Ah yes, the always expected and ever ready |
Half and Half |
Jan-29-10 10:02 AM |
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Here's a virtual hanky |
peace frog |
Jan-29-10 10:25 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-29-10 10:28 AM |
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High speed rail works very well in Europe |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-29-10 11:47 AM |
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Explain in detail how that was an argumentum ad hominem. |
Ignis |
Jan-29-10 01:41 PM |
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You found "partisans" at a site called Democratic Underground?! |
Ignis |
Jan-29-10 01:40 PM |
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Jeb is touted as the "smart" brother |
peace frog |
Jan-29-10 10:23 AM |
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Welll sure... as a comparative term it's probably fine |
FBaggins |
Jan-29-10 10:36 AM |
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Yep. |
peace frog |
Jan-29-10 11:01 AM |
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Jeb does not get any credit for this. |
tosh |
Jan-30-10 04:02 AM |
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13 corridors covering 30 states got money |
sandnsea |
Jan-29-10 02:29 AM |
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The 'conspiracy' is there are a number of corridors |
elleng |
Jan-29-10 02:57 AM |
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This is the most ignorant thread in the history of DU |
sandnsea |
Jan-29-10 08:51 AM |
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I MAY choose to ignore you, but not until I understand what you've said. |
elleng |
Jan-29-10 09:11 AM |
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Why don't you try again |
sandnsea |
Jan-29-10 09:21 AM |
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Sorry; I speak for myself. |
elleng |
Jan-30-10 03:50 AM |
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I believe this is a good decision. This area is well known to me, |
juajen |
Jan-29-10 02:33 AM |
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The same reason Ohio got 400 million |
krawhitham |
Jan-29-10 02:50 AM |
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Sadly, the trains here'll go 40 mph on average. |
rucky |
Jan-29-10 07:36 AM |
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good god. 10 hours? |
yodoobo |
Jan-29-10 07:50 AM |
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I heard somewhere the Ohio line will average 66mph, but still... |
Half and Half |
Jan-29-10 11:18 AM |
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The trains there share tracks freight haulers, like CSX |
GoCubsGo |
Jan-29-10 12:40 PM |
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Hey! How about the BLUE states? What reward do WE get? |
FormerDittoHead |
Jan-29-10 02:38 PM |
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Why just airport to Disney and back? What about the rest of FL? |
Paper Roses |
Jan-29-10 06:09 AM |
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I thought it was Tampa to Orlando |
spinbaby |
Jan-29-10 06:23 AM |
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Ahem.. |
GoCubsGo |
Jan-29-10 08:37 AM |
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Thank you! |
tosh |
Jan-29-10 10:51 AM |
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The next step (if we're smart, and I don't think we are) would be to build |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jan-29-10 11:33 AM |
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Actually a commuter rail along the I-4 corridor might be a good idea |
csziggy |
Jan-29-10 11:44 AM |
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It's not just a political consideration. |
Ganja Ninja |
Jan-29-10 06:45 AM |
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Nelson's hcr vote. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-29-10 07:18 AM |
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Gee, it's too bad all they ever want from Ca is our money. |
asdjrocky |
Jan-29-10 07:20 AM |
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Your Senators' votes for hcr were pretty much a lock-in. They needed Nelson...and look |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-29-10 07:38 AM |
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Yeah, we don't even get anything for our money or our votes. |
asdjrocky |
Jan-29-10 08:23 AM |
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Same here in NY. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-29-10 08:55 AM |
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The MASSIVE bailout of Wall Street was also a MASSIVE bailout of New York. |
Romulox |
Jan-29-10 11:06 AM |
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I haven't lived in NYC for more than 25 years, and trickle down isn't working here yet. More |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-29-10 12:00 PM |
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There are lines proposed for CA, as well |
GoCubsGo |
Jan-29-10 08:34 AM |
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Thirteen lines were granted, they're a go |
sandnsea |
Jan-29-10 09:24 AM |
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Me, too. |
GoCubsGo |
Jan-29-10 10:09 AM |
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Lots of those routes can't possibly be economic, and are put in for political reasons |
FarCenter |
Jan-29-10 10:00 AM |
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That is mind-boggling |
sandnsea |
Jan-29-10 10:46 AM |
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I worked for a gov't run railroad in Calif. and I'm here to tell you that... |
ourbluenation |
Jan-29-10 11:02 AM |
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Well then Toledo would be a good idea |
sandnsea |
Jan-29-10 11:12 AM |
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Look at the map -- the main line will go Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland |
FarCenter |
Jan-29-10 11:21 AM |
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here |
sandnsea |
Jan-29-10 11:59 AM |
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Detroit-Chicago is still a poor idea -- I think that the reason for no Toledo - Detroit route |
FarCenter |
Jan-29-10 12:57 PM |
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Detroit-Chicago is 2nd most popular Amtrak line |
sandnsea |
Jan-29-10 01:36 PM |
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All of 3 trains a day running at about 47 miles per hour |
FarCenter |
Jan-29-10 01:43 PM |
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You should have said you oppose the whole thing |
sandnsea |
Jan-29-10 01:56 PM |
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Does this sound like high-speed rail? |
FarCenter |
Jan-29-10 02:37 PM |
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Kalamazoo already has a rail station |
Occulus |
Jan-29-10 01:05 PM |
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Actually, they are only increasing top speed to 110 mph |
FarCenter |
Jan-29-10 01:46 PM |
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as a floridian, i think the state needs mass-transit intra-city upgrades, not a high speed rail line |
KG |
Jan-29-10 07:46 AM |
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True |
BeFree |
Jan-29-10 08:09 AM |
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Amtrak should work with the rental car companies to get as good facilities as the airports have |
FarCenter |
Jan-29-10 11:41 AM |
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Actually rental companies are close. |
YOY |
Jan-29-10 01:39 PM |
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Train stations are not as well organized with respect to rental cars as airports |
FarCenter |
Jan-29-10 02:12 PM |
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The size of most current train terminals prohibits that. |
YOY |
Jan-29-10 02:56 PM |
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They have electric cars? |
BeFree |
Jan-29-10 03:58 PM |
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I think you just thought of a smart business concept. |
YOY |
Jan-29-10 04:12 PM |
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I agree. Here in South Florida, we've got TriRail, which is one reason high-speed rail was secured. |
SteppingRazor |
Jan-29-10 09:29 AM |
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I'd love to see a few other Mass Transit Lines: |
RoadRage |
Jan-29-10 09:16 AM |
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Oh HELL yeah.. I'd LOVE to see the train system join |
annabanana |
Jan-29-10 09:35 AM |
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DC to Boston? |
YOY |
Jan-29-10 02:57 PM |
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MA didn't get much |
lwcon |
Jan-29-10 10:53 AM |
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The logical corollary is that voting Repulican is how to get $$$ for national Dems |
Romulox |
Jan-29-10 11:04 AM |
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Good. This is why politics exist. To help the people. I wish we did this more |
anonymous171 |
Jan-29-10 12:59 PM |
#59 |
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