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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:13 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. The facts speak for themselves.
Look at the events of the past year. How much time has been wasted due to coddling to the GOP? The Democrats will never get that time back.

The Republicans are in the minority, and yet they are still calling the shots and setting the agenda. Bush accomplished a lot more with less of a Republican majority. If that isn't appeasing the Republicans, I don't know what is.

Meanwhile, people are dying due to lack of health care. No rush, though...take your time. :eyes:
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  -Question: What did Obama say to make you believe that what was broke would be fixed by now? uponit7771  Jan-25-10 06:57 AM   #0 
  - Nothing.  LWolf   Jan-25-10 06:59 AM   #1 
  - Maybe the OP is claiming, once again, that it's our fault, not his fault.  timeforpeace   Jan-25-10 02:42 PM   #85 
     - Of course.  LWolf   Jan-25-10 08:27 PM   #87 
  - 1. Gittmo  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-25-10 07:01 AM   #2 
  - Do you feel there has been progress on those fronts or have we gone backwards?  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 07:02 AM   #3 
     - No progress  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-25-10 09:33 AM   #55 
  - I didn't expect that Obama would have had everything fixed by now.  AndyA   Jan-25-10 07:04 AM   #4 
  - appeasing republicans = 95% Obama promise meter? See, I don't understand these perspectives....  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 07:09 AM   #10 
     - The facts speak for themselves.  AndyA   Jan-25-10 07:13 AM   #11 
        - I have looked at the events and again, his promise meter is 95% not 19%  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 08:46 AM   #33 
  - Guantanamo  DrDan   Jan-25-10 07:05 AM   #5 
  - Yes, he did. Poor us. He might not have expected the backlash from  babylonsister   Jan-25-10 07:09 AM   #9 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-25-10 07:21 AM   #15 
  - Nothing, he never promised me instant gratification.  jaxx   Jan-25-10 07:05 AM   #6 
  - Nothing. And he hasn't disappointed.  VMI Dem   Jan-25-10 07:07 AM   #7 
  - Ironically, a little over a year ago we were discussing how it would take 50 years to undo the  deacon   Jan-25-10 07:07 AM   #8 
  - I did not expect for Bush's mess to be  calico1   Jan-25-10 07:13 AM   #12 
  - I think it's reasonable to at least wait to see how he responds to the wake up call too.  deacon   Jan-25-10 07:19 AM   #14 
  - Well we will see. I am hoping that with  calico1   Jan-25-10 07:35 AM   #22 
  - There has been NO progress in fixing Bush's mess? TIA  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 08:47 AM   #34 
  - Unfortunately, as per the SCOTUS decision,  BarbaRosa   Jan-25-10 09:59 AM   #59 
  - Obama is not the problem the pukes in congress are  madokie   Jan-25-10 07:13 AM   #13 
  - The son of a bitches haven't even treated the crisis like a crisis. They refuse to contribute  deacon   Jan-25-10 07:25 AM   #17 
  - Yeap, them and a handful of dems are fuckin it up for the rest of us  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 08:46 AM   #32 
  - Exactly.  Skidmore   Jan-25-10 09:30 AM   #52 
  - "change".(some body said that word at some point i think.)  Therellas   Jan-25-10 07:24 AM   #16 
  - It's not an "everything broken will be fixed" issue.  donco6   Jan-25-10 07:25 AM   #18 
  - That is a wrong supposition.  jaxx   Jan-25-10 07:32 AM   #19 
  - Pretty much - at least on the issues (note: multiple) that I care about. n/t  donco6   Jan-25-10 07:35 AM   #21 
     - No comment.  jaxx   Jan-25-10 08:00 AM   #25 
        - Seeing how the comments are going, I wouldn't either. n/t  donco6   Jan-25-10 08:23 AM   #28 
           - Uh I wasn't scared off. I'm sick of the whining.  jaxx   Jan-25-10 10:41 AM   #64 
              - Me too. And I got where you were going with the "no comment" comment.  ourbluenation   Jan-25-10 11:06 AM   #69 
              - No whining here  donco6   Jan-25-10 12:54 PM   #73 
  - Obama's winning streak on hill unprecedented  ourbluenation   Jan-25-10 11:05 AM   #68 
  - Question: What did he do to make you think he was the Messiah?  last1standing   Jan-25-10 07:34 AM   #20 
  - Freepers said he was the messiah to raise the expecetations to the point of failure.  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 08:44 AM   #30 
  - Yes. It's difficult to successfully argue something you never claimed, isn't it?  last1standing   Jan-25-10 08:58 AM   #39 
     - "When no one is complaining that Obama isn't doing enough"...this absolute statement is false on its  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 09:28 AM   #48 
        - No one is saying that Obama isn't working. He's just not working for us - Democrats.  last1standing   Jan-25-10 09:33 AM   #56 
           - Again, Obama promise meter tells me the facts conjecture. Just because you make a statement  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 09:57 AM   #58 
           - Does you're "promise meter" measure what I've listed? Nope.  last1standing   Jan-25-10 01:15 PM   #74 
           - that's just dumb  treestar   Jan-25-10 02:33 PM   #81 
  - This needs to be an OP. I'd like to hear the answers to your questions.  Little Star   Jan-25-10 08:47 AM   #35 
  - The sad thing is there might be some good answers but we'll never know.  last1standing   Jan-25-10 09:00 AM   #40 
     - ...and the haters are too busy using RW TP's to excuse their Obama bashing...  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 09:28 AM   #49 
     - In other words, you can't refute a single point I made. You can only insult.  last1standing   Jan-25-10 09:31 AM   #53 
        - You prefered statements of opinion not facts, Obama promise meter is facts could you please....  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 10:14 AM   #63 
           - nah, he's too busy getting a good pamper fill in.  dionysus   Jan-25-10 02:28 PM   #80 
     - true.  Little Star   Jan-25-10 09:29 AM   #50 
  - throw in a cult or two, you know you wanna.  dionysus   Jan-25-10 10:03 AM   #61 
     - If it quacks like a duck...  last1standing   Jan-25-10 01:35 PM   #79 
  - Stupid question, nonsensical discussion.  kstewart33   Jan-25-10 07:37 AM   #23 
  - Unnn, if anything I would classify myself as a semi chearleader who thinks the DU Obama hate is  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 08:45 AM   #31 
     - I always thought it was "freeperish" to shut your critics up instead of talking to them.  last1standing   Jan-25-10 09:06 AM   #44 
        - True, ediited  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 09:25 AM   #47 
           - So you have no interest in actual discussion, just spewing insults and strawmen.  last1standing   Jan-25-10 09:29 AM   #51 
              - Actual discussion is a valuable thing. But  kstewart33   Jan-25-10 09:53 AM   #57 
              - If you'd like a real discussion I'd be glad to have it.  last1standing   Jan-25-10 01:23 PM   #77 
              - Ignoring facts and making factless statements doesn't sound like "dicussion" either  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 10:03 AM   #62 
                 - Nothing I stated was unfactual, but that's the great thing about "believing".  last1standing   Jan-25-10 01:17 PM   #75 
  - I didn't see any quick painless fixes on the horizon and thought he would last one term  stray cat   Jan-25-10 07:39 AM   #24 
  - He promised me a rose garden. Where the hell's my rose garden?  lamp_shade   Jan-25-10 08:12 AM   #26 
  - 'Change'- to me that meant changing the status quo. nt  Union Yes   Jan-25-10 08:17 AM   #27 
  - Obama Promise meter is lying? TIA  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 08:48 AM   #36 
  - I never thought that anything that was broken would be fully fixed by now,  MadHound   Jan-25-10 08:31 AM   #29 
  - Again, there's been NO PROGRESS at all?! Come on, factually that doesn't square with the truth  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 08:49 AM   #37 
     - One step forward, two steps back, that's the sort of progress we've made.  MadHound   Jan-25-10 09:18 AM   #45 
  - People are not pissed because what is broke is not fixed, people  harun   Jan-25-10 08:53 AM   #38 
  - What's he supposed to do? Punch Reid and Lieberman in the mouth? I see he fighting with what he has  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 09:00 AM   #42 
  - He has many tools at his disposal he can fight with.  harun   Jan-25-10 10:56 AM   #66 
  - Hmmm, how about this for a suggestion:  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-25-10 01:29 PM   #78 
  - And I feel like I no longer know what he believes in  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-25-10 09:59 AM   #60 
  - I dunno  treestar   Jan-25-10 02:35 PM   #82 
  - Why don't you tell us what he's done that he said he would do.  TexasObserver   Jan-25-10 09:00 AM   #41 
  - Again, Obama promise meter tells me the facts conjecture. I posted a link to back up my ...  uponit7771   Jan-25-10 09:01 AM   #43 
     - Again, what has he done that he said he would do?  TexasObserver   Jan-25-10 09:31 AM   #54 
  - I wasn't going to make a decision on Obama until he served a term  LynneSin   Jan-25-10 09:19 AM   #46 
  - +1 n/t  NYC_SKP   Jan-25-10 10:54 AM   #65 
  - Nothing. And he's not a king, thank goodness, who can just wave a wand,  ourbluenation   Jan-25-10 11:00 AM   #67 
  - Transparency, transparency, transparency, for one! Transparency goes a long  change_notfinetuning   Jan-25-10 11:10 AM   #70 
  - Nobody expects everything to be fixed by NOW and that's beginning to  Ganja Ninja   Jan-25-10 11:22 AM   #71 
  - So Sick Of This Disingenous Argument  Toasterlad   Jan-25-10 12:12 PM   #72 
  - I'm didn't expect things to be "fixed" by now ---  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-25-10 01:19 PM   #76 
  - I think you are right  treestar   Jan-25-10 02:38 PM   #83 
  - I, for one, do not believe that we are headed in the right direction.  timtom   Jan-25-10 02:41 PM   #84 
  - I'm patient with fixing being ongoing but it is expected to be started  TheKentuckian   Jan-25-10 02:48 PM   #86 

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