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Sun Jan-24-10 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #67 |
| 69. actually, you support religious oppression |
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but that much has been made clear
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| -How do you feel about vouchers for public schools only? |
bluestateguy |
Jan-24-10 03:47 PM |
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We already have that here in Colorado. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 03:54 PM |
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You shouldn't need a voucher, and people should never be excluded from public schools |
noamnety |
Jan-24-10 04:00 PM |
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What noamnety said.... |
Grey |
Jan-24-10 04:22 PM |
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My grandson goes to a kindergarten in the Glendale public school system even tho he lives in North |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 04:37 PM |
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We offer lots of public choices in my district |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 04:56 PM |
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Wow, that is great. Encourage them to do language immersion, tho. It benefits the brain |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 05:27 PM |
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Our parents don't want it. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 05:49 PM |
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Aww, that's too bad. I know my family had some dissenting voices about a 5 year old |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 05:58 PM |
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We're too small to pull it off. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:10 PM |
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This is hard for a non-urban school even to consider. |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 06:18 PM |
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That is a shame. Italian seems like a fun language |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:20 PM |
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I'm hoping my grandson will go on to a career in Europe. I know that's funny but I do. |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 06:25 PM |
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Being bilingual always opens doors. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:28 PM |
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My own family members had reservations on this! They thought it was too tough on a little kid |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 06:35 PM |
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Europeans have been doing it for decades, at least. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:38 PM |
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Don't get me started...nt |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 06:45 PM |
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How can they get away with not serving sped kids? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 04:59 PM |
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Out of district, I think. I don't know all the fine print but that was what I gleaned from what my |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 05:31 PM |
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That's really not legal |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:01 PM |
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I'll check it out further but I remember my daughter being pretty obstinate about it.. nt |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 06:06 PM |
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Oh I believe you |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:12 PM |
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They do the same thing here in CO. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:11 PM |
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That's different from what was described |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:13 PM |
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No, not all IEP kids, just out of district kids. Sorry if I was misunderstood. |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 06:20 PM |
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So kids from out of district who are on IEPs can't enroll? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:42 PM |
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That is my understanding. My daughter told me it was pretty clear. |
CTyankee |
Jan-24-10 06:55 PM |
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Magnet school aren't required to take IEP students are they? n/t |
FLDCVADem |
Jan-24-10 08:13 PM |
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Here in my state they are |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 08:45 PM |
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Yep. As a parent of a child with an IEP, I'd be throwing a hissy fit heard round the world. |
Pithlet |
Jan-26-10 05:00 PM |
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It's funny you mention Detroit (are you from here?) |
Romulox |
Jan-26-10 10:20 AM |
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Really good post! |
Sans Culottes |
Jan-26-10 04:50 PM |
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No one has convinced my that any vouchers are really necessary. |
KittyWampus |
Jan-24-10 04:10 PM |
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We already have that here, it's called open enrollment. No voucher needed. |
madmom |
Jan-24-10 04:15 PM |
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i am for vouchers for any parents that want them |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 04:23 PM |
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I don't agree with vouchers for private schools. |
noamnety |
Jan-24-10 04:35 PM |
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i accept that i am in the minority here, in my position on vouchers |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 04:39 PM |
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Yes. |
aquart |
Jan-24-10 04:46 PM |
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I would oppose them for religious schools. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 04:37 PM |
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that's exactly the problem |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 04:43 PM |
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The money isn't actually there "for the child" |
noamnety |
Jan-24-10 04:50 PM |
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what i mean is that the money |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 04:55 PM |
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It does NOT benefit me for a child to be indoctrinated in (some) religions |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 04:57 PM |
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again, i am speaking in the aggregate |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 05:45 PM |
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Now you're getting confused. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 05:48 PM |
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except the state is NOT supporting religious schools |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 06:00 PM |
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Parents are free to choose whatever they want, yes. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:07 PM |
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the fact is this |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 06:11 PM |
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No. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:14 PM |
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so what |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 06:24 PM |
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Never. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:25 PM |
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again, i understand that you want to limit liberty and choice |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 06:34 PM |
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And I understand that you support state-funded religious oppression. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:35 PM |
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actually, you support religious oppression |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 06:37 PM |
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It's not religious "oppression" to prohibit tax dollars going to churches. |
noamnety |
Jan-26-10 10:17 AM |
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it most definitely IS |
paulsby |
Jan-26-10 04:43 PM |
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No, sorry - refusing to fund nongovernment organizations of ANY sort |
noamnety |
Jan-26-10 05:00 PM |
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bigotry is saying it's ok for NONreligious org's |
paulsby |
Jan-26-10 07:13 PM |
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You perform a service and EARN your paycheck |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:50 PM |
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the argument i am responding to doesn't work either. |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 06:55 PM |
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You're still not getting it |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 07:10 PM |
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YOU still don't get |
paulsby |
Jan-26-10 04:41 PM |
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Replace the word "support" with "fund" |
noamnety |
Jan-24-10 06:20 PM |
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Good point, and I hate that, too. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:21 PM |
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But you actually get your paycheck |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:46 PM |
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This is a nice conversation in the abstract, but the reality of school choice is that there |
Book Lover |
Jan-24-10 07:00 PM |
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No. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 04:51 PM |
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i am well aware that this argument has lost before in courts |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 05:43 PM |
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No, sorry, you have a losing argument. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 05:47 PM |
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you have a losing strawman |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 05:49 PM |
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It was a good decision. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 05:50 PM |
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i can't try jackshit |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 05:57 PM |
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Your belief is built on a bogus premise. nt |
DURHAM D |
Jan-24-10 04:55 PM |
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No. |
aquart |
Jan-24-10 04:47 PM |
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Parents do have the choice |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 05:00 PM |
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and imo |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 06:01 PM |
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It's not that simple |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:10 PM |
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i agree |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 06:17 PM |
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I have been advocating looking at public education in the same light as public safety for years |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:36 PM |
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first paragraph i agree with |
paulsby |
Jan-24-10 07:12 PM |
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There is an exception for school services I bet you didn't think about |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 07:45 PM |
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i can agree with that nt |
paulsby |
Jan-26-10 04:37 PM |
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A very similar program already exists |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 04:38 PM |
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allowed to go to another school "in their district" |
noamnety |
Jan-24-10 04:43 PM |
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Under RTTT, states are having to change that. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 04:53 PM |
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Some states have open enrollment |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 04:57 PM |
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So the failing school loses students and fails MORE? No. |
Bluebear |
Jan-24-10 06:08 PM |
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Stop making sense, dammit. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:15 PM |
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Bingo |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:38 PM |
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How would the kids get to school? |
rucky |
Jan-24-10 06:23 PM |
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If they can't figure it out, they should be there. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 06:26 PM |
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Or the poor that do not have any means of transportation. |
demmiblue |
Jan-24-10 06:29 PM |
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Or the kids whose parents have no transportation |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:39 PM |
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Unnecessary. |
LWolf |
Jan-24-10 06:31 PM |
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I'm going to go out on a limb here |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-24-10 06:40 PM |
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You don't have to go that far, lol. |
LWolf |
Jan-24-10 06:58 PM |
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Although I agree with most of what you have said, this would become... |
demmiblue |
Jan-24-10 06:44 PM |
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Costly? You bet. That's why it doesn't already happen. |
LWolf |
Jan-24-10 06:58 PM |
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That's definitely a start. |
donco6 |
Jan-24-10 07:29 PM |
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Yes. |
LWolf |
Jan-24-10 08:07 PM |
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This quickly leads to situations in which children can't attend schools |
Romulox |
Jan-26-10 10:23 AM |
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Or... we could just fund education properly |
jgraz |
Jan-24-10 07:32 PM |
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Here in Jersey, kids are only allowed to go to their local/closest school |
Broke In Jersey |
Jan-25-10 07:20 AM |
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