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185. No sweat. My wife being a social worker here, I get it from the inside
It's not so much even the immigration. The European Union opened the borders as a political gesture to countries
that are nowhere near out of the ruins of fascist dictatorships (Romania and Albania being the worst) who used
to call themselves "socialist." They have thousands of ex-military and secret police, well trained in para-
military techniques, and who are now sweeping streets for $50 a month or unemployed completely. The organized
crime gangs bring them into Germany, visa-free, and they break into houses at night (doesn't matter if the owners
are there or not, they are trained to handle resistance) or rob stores at gunpoint and are home by breakfast the
next morning, their pockets stuffed with enough cash to let them live like kings for 6 months, until the gang
organizers need them again for another job. In the meantime, they are untraceable to the German cops.

The immigrants who come here really looking to join German society are not much of a problem. They get jobs of
a menial nature if they have to. I know a guy who was a chemical engineer in Kazakhstan who drives a streetcar
here. But his German is now near flawless, and his daughter just got her (German) university degree. Guys like
him are not the problem. But the two "mainsteam" parties courted near unobstructed immigration from Eastern
Europe in the 80s and 90s, recognizing any jackass that could say "Bratwurst" as an ethnic German, tossing a
ton of money and free perks at them, saying "welcome home, remember to vote for us." No wonder that real German
taxpayers resented footing the bill for these people. My wife's job is to help try to place long-term unemployed
people into jobs, and she gets untold numbers of lowlifes who show up only because they have to, in order to
appear to look for work (so their benefits will continue). Then they produce doctor's certificates saying they
can't work, speak lousy German (some even show with interpreters after being here for 15 years!) and then drive
off in a Mercedes! this is not a worst-case scenario, but she sees it several times a week. It burns her up, because
not only are these people very visible (the far right has a field day), but they are stealing HER tax money that
she willingly paid, thinking it was to help support a system that helped people only when they needed it.

The far right here loves it, because it gives them a reason to exist. Like "terrrrrists," without whom Cheneybush
would have not carried ten states in 2004, the badly thought out policies of the mainstream parties gave the far
right a weapon they never should have had.
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  - Italy  47of74   Jan-23-10 12:00 PM   #18 
     - Hey I'm going to Florence again in September for an art intensive program.  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 01:22 PM   #56 
        - Piazzale Michelangelo?  47of74   Jan-23-10 01:56 PM   #66 
        - Actually I will be there, but I think because some folks I'm going with want to see the view of  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 02:05 PM   #71 
           - I'll be there in October  47of74   Jan-23-10 02:09 PM   #72 
              - Do you have any favorite restaurants?  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 02:23 PM   #74 
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           - I've had to wait til retirement to do all this travel.  CTyankee   Jan-24-10 08:59 AM   #173 
  - (i live in italy, so i should not share with this poll. but if i could choose...)  demoleft   Jan-23-10 11:49 AM   #2 
  - I love visiting Italy and will again this year (Florence) but I can  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 11:51 AM   #10 
     - abruzzo, east coast - centre south. on the adriatic sea.  demoleft   Jan-23-10 12:01 PM   #19 
        - My favorite country in the world so far!  pink-o   Jan-25-10 11:32 AM   #215 
  - Caribbean  HipChick   Jan-23-10 11:49 AM   #3 
  - Ireland...  The_Commonist   Jan-23-10 11:49 AM   #4 
  - ditto. Ireland.  roguevalley   Jan-24-10 10:39 PM   #198 
  - +1 on Ireland.  racaulk   Jan-25-10 06:13 AM   #206 
  - England  Mudoria   Jan-23-10 11:49 AM   #5 
  - I'm first generation here. I don't really think of Canada or Britain, or Ireland  Captain Hilts   Jan-23-10 11:51 AM   #9 
     - True...  HipChick   Jan-23-10 12:05 PM   #24 
        - Decent British Meal?  OutNow   Jan-23-10 01:01 PM   #43 
           - a pox of a black pudding on you  HipChick   Jan-23-10 01:14 PM   #51 
           - The pursuit of which founded the Empire...  Greyhound   Jan-24-10 01:55 AM   #162 
  - Pandora. nt  anonymous171   Jan-23-10 11:49 AM   #6 
  - Canada is my first choice, UK second. Both sides came to the US from UK via Canada. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-23-10 11:50 AM   #7 
  - ADD Philippines - My wife has a house there  FreakinDJ   Jan-23-10 11:50 AM   #8 
  - and the seafood there is so plentiful  LoKnLoD   Jan-23-10 03:48 PM   #85 
  - Australia  treestar   Jan-23-10 11:51 AM   #11 
  - My son-in-law is Australian.  Blue_In_AK   Jan-23-10 12:17 PM   #32 
     - I want to go too, at least to see it!  treestar   Jan-24-10 11:23 AM   #192 
  - Land of Oz, or New Zealand.  ChairmanAgnostic   Jan-23-10 11:51 AM   #12 
  - In a perfect world?  Mixopterus   Jan-23-10 11:53 AM   #13 
  - why a special love of finland?  shugah   Jan-23-10 09:02 PM   #134 
  - Canada..  calico1   Jan-23-10 11:53 AM   #14 
  - It's almost as if they're not foreign countries/places.  Captain Hilts   Jan-23-10 11:56 AM   #16 
  - Canada. Mom was a Canadian, thus so am I. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-23-10 06:57 PM   #103 
  - UK - love the accents!  kudzu22   Jan-23-10 11:56 AM   #15 
  - Brazil  rucky   Jan-23-10 11:58 AM   #17 
  - Cuba  JVS   Jan-23-10 12:02 PM   #20 
  - LOL!!! Yeah...sure you would. n/t  greytdemocrat   Jan-23-10 08:25 PM   #122 
  - Costa Rica  MercutioATC   Jan-23-10 12:02 PM   #21 
  - LLLLOOOOVVVVEEEE that place. For all those reasons and more.  joeunderdog   Jan-23-10 01:21 PM   #55 
  - Me too! LOVE, LOVE, LOVE going to Costa Rica  Ruby the Liberal   Jan-23-10 03:55 PM   #86 
  - I've heard it's a great place.  AspenRose   Jan-23-10 07:05 PM   #106 
  - Same here!  Dappleganger   Jan-24-10 12:27 AM   #156 
     - Actually, retiring there is the plan in 6 years...regardless of the climate here.  MercutioATC   Jan-24-10 12:52 AM   #160 
  - Solomon Islands because I like it isolated & off the beaten track.  tuckessee   Jan-23-10 12:03 PM   #22 
  - Costa Rica  Burma Jones   Jan-23-10 12:04 PM   #23 
  - If I had the money, probably Japan  DJ13   Jan-23-10 12:06 PM   #25 
  - People are assuming the country would want them I guess?  stray cat   Jan-23-10 12:09 PM   #26 
  - France. Paris is the greatest city in the world and the French are warm and friendly people.  onehandle   Jan-23-10 12:10 PM   #27 
  - I love France too!!  dana_b   Jan-23-10 07:09 PM   #108 
  - Aw, I heard they were bitchy  sandnsea   Jan-23-10 08:59 PM   #132 
  - Paris France is my choice too.  Xicano   Jan-26-10 06:16 AM   #217 
  - Probably Canada first choice because my husband has Canadian  Vinca   Jan-23-10 12:11 PM   #28 
  - Probably Canada.  Blue_In_AK   Jan-23-10 12:15 PM   #29 
  - I'm going to Vanuatu.  asdjrocky   Jan-23-10 12:16 PM   #30 
  - Portugal...  dajoki   Jan-23-10 12:16 PM   #31 
  - I was there last fall and was very disappointed.  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 01:36 PM   #60 
  - Thanks for the warning CTyankee...  dajoki   Jan-23-10 02:59 PM   #81 
     - Spent a month in Portugal this past July and loved it. A hidden treasure.  LuckyLib   Jan-23-10 04:21 PM   #89 
        - That's one of the things...  dajoki   Jan-23-10 05:57 PM   #95 
        - I was there for the art so my experience was different, obviously.  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 06:46 PM   #100 
  - oh i think portugal is just wonderful!!!! and 500K brits who moved to portugal cant be wrong  pitohui   Jan-23-10 09:00 PM   #133 
     - Istanbul, with both the Blue Mosque and the Haggia Sophia, is on my bucket list.  CTyankee   Jan-24-10 09:05 AM   #178 
        - you will love istanbul  pitohui   Jan-24-10 10:49 PM   #200 
  - Belize, nt  Royal Sloan 09   Jan-23-10 12:29 PM   #33 
  - Placencia. n/t  yowzayowzayowza   Jan-23-10 01:13 PM   #50 
  - Shhhhhhhhhh! Don't tell everybody!  XOKCowboy   Jan-24-10 11:09 AM   #188 
  - well according to my dna results my oldest ancestors are from Afghanistan  Mari333   Jan-23-10 12:31 PM   #34 
  - New Zealand  branders seine   Jan-23-10 12:31 PM   #35 
  - New Zealand or Finland.  kiranon   Jan-23-10 12:39 PM   #37 
  - Finland is interesting  branders seine   Jan-23-10 01:07 PM   #45 
  - Good choices  malakai2   Jan-26-10 06:30 AM   #218 
  - New Zealand.  madamesilverspurs   Jan-23-10 04:41 PM   #92 
  - Sweden  alfredo   Jan-23-10 12:37 PM   #36 
  - I grew up in Mexico lindo y querido  lunatica   Jan-23-10 12:40 PM   #38 
  - I'm staying.  proteus_lives   Jan-23-10 12:44 PM   #39 
  - Germany, because of family, and because of their social system  fascisthunter   Jan-23-10 12:46 PM   #40 
  - I have family in Germany, my Mom immigrated to the US in 1950  eilen   Jan-23-10 01:30 PM   #58 
     - lol... I've already started studying German  fascisthunter   Jan-23-10 01:43 PM   #63 
        - My Mom forgot her language. So I never learned.  eilen   Jan-23-10 02:02 PM   #69 
           - You May be Eligible for Dual-Citizenship...  fascisthunter   Jan-23-10 02:12 PM   #73 
              - Thanks for the link but I don't think I am  eilen   Jan-23-10 05:49 PM   #93 
              - es... It is deteriorating there due to a similar right wing fundie movement  fascisthunter   Jan-23-10 07:09 PM   #109 
                 - That's not why it's deteriorating  DFW   Jan-24-10 04:06 AM   #167 
                    - Hey DFW... thank you for that  fascisthunter   Jan-24-10 10:10 AM   #182 
                       - No sweat. My wife being a social worker here, I get it from the inside  DFW   Jan-24-10 11:02 AM   #185 
              - Can I get special consideration for German citizenship  Art_from_Ark   Jan-25-10 07:00 AM   #208 
  - sweden....i still have kin there.....  madrchsod   Jan-23-10 12:47 PM   #41 
  - Finland  Sisaruus   Jan-23-10 12:51 PM   #42 
  - Scotland - it's green  Catshrink   Jan-23-10 01:02 PM   #44 
  - +1  NorthCarolina   Jan-23-10 02:31 PM   #77 
  - I once took a train from Salisbury to Edinburgh, and I thought it  Marr   Jan-24-10 11:11 AM   #189 
     - yep...  Catshrink   Jan-24-10 08:27 PM   #197 
  - Spain. (n/t)  Iggo   Jan-23-10 01:09 PM   #46 
  - Austria. I was born there and can claim Austrian citizenship.  hobbit709   Jan-23-10 01:12 PM   #47 
  - I was born in Salzburg  Caretha   Jan-23-10 08:09 PM   #114 
     - I was born in Saalfelden  hobbit709   Jan-23-10 09:18 PM   #137 
  - Holland  OutNow   Jan-23-10 01:12 PM   #48 
  - It's really not so difficult once you learn it in earnest  DFW   Jan-24-10 08:53 AM   #169 
  - Delft is near the border with Belgium?  DutchLiberal   Jan-24-10 11:00 AM   #184 
  - We do tend to laugh when people from NL tell us about big distances  DFW   Jan-25-10 11:10 AM   #213 
  - Seems that when you expect it to me more like German, it's more like English  eridani   Jan-25-10 06:18 AM   #207 
  - Corporations are still going to allow the existence of countries? NT  athenasatanjesus   Jan-23-10 01:12 PM   #49 
  - I'm going with Energy  Strelnikov_   Jan-23-10 01:15 PM   #52 
  - Malta. Mild climate. English speaking. Politically stable. Prosperous.  sharesunited   Jan-23-10 01:16 PM   #53 
  - It's on my bucket list of places I want to go before I die!  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 01:39 PM   #61 
  - I spent a month in Malta back in 1969. It's really not that pretty of  B Calm   Jan-24-10 09:04 AM   #177 
  - I've thought of Malta, too  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-23-10 03:04 PM   #82 
     - My forebears were Scottish (Campbell clan) but I don't think I could try to  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 04:14 PM   #88 
  - If I had the money I'd relocate to Belgium.  Initech   Jan-23-10 01:16 PM   #54 
  - I think Switzerland would be the best match for me. nt  Tim01   Jan-23-10 01:25 PM   #57 
  - The French or German part? nt  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 06:34 PM   #96 
     - Many non-Swiss Europeans prefer neither of the two  DFW   Jan-24-10 09:07 AM   #179 
        - It wouldn't take much to get me to Ticino...nt  CTyankee   Jan-24-10 09:12 AM   #180 
  - Canada  customerserviceguy   Jan-23-10 01:30 PM   #59 
  - I have a lwayer friend in Quebec  DFW   Jan-24-10 09:02 AM   #175 
  - Check your message inbox  DFW   Jan-25-10 06:01 AM   #204 
  - Canada. Best mountain biking in the world. Plus some  Edweird   Jan-23-10 01:39 PM   #62 
  - Inglaterra  Sultana   Jan-23-10 01:49 PM   #64 
  - Canada.  LWolf   Jan-23-10 01:53 PM   #65 
  - France. Beautiful language and lands but most importantly, it is fairly sane.  Greyhound   Jan-23-10 01:57 PM   #67 
  - France  Craufurd   Jan-23-10 08:28 PM   #123 
     - No, they are just correcting you. It's how they were taught as students as well.  krabigirl   Jan-24-10 12:20 AM   #155 
  - One of those Middle Eastern countries aka Male Paradises. "Wife #7, attend!"  timeforpeace   Jan-23-10 01:58 PM   #68 
  - There is no where else I'd rather live than  azmouse   Jan-23-10 02:03 PM   #70 
  - That's OK. I did say "if you WERE to live elsewhere."  CTyankee   Jan-23-10 02:27 PM   #76 
     - Wait on Vienna  DFW   Jan-24-10 08:57 AM   #171 
        - No plans on Vienna until at least April, 2011 but Oct. 2011 is more likely.  CTyankee   Jan-24-10 09:01 AM   #174 
           - I may have to run down there again in May, and if so, I'll give you an update  DFW   Jan-24-10 09:18 AM   #181 
              - Thank you! This is good to know. I appreciate it. nt  CTyankee   Jan-24-10 11:25 AM   #194 
  - I am leaving the U.S. for Canada  OswegoAtheist   Jan-23-10 02:24 PM   #75 
  - Mexico.  timeforpeace   Jan-23-10 02:36 PM   #78 
  - Autralia.  liquid diamond   Jan-23-10 02:37 PM   #79 
  - Canada  frebrd   Jan-23-10 02:47 PM   #80 
  - My home planet. The damn thing is, my ride hasn't shown up  Cyrano   Jan-23-10 03:11 PM   #83 
  - Canada.  roamer65   Jan-23-10 03:34 PM   #84 
  - I Guess The grass Is Always Greener On the Other Side  Johnny Harpo   Jan-23-10 04:08 PM   #87 
  - Depends. What countries have the easiest immigration policies?  Hugabear   Jan-23-10 04:26 PM   #90 
  - Someone told me once that I could get into NZ pretty easily with my education and career background.  Political Heretic   Jan-23-10 08:23 PM   #121 
  - Australia  Michigan-Arizona   Jan-23-10 04:31 PM   #91 
  - Germany  liberaltrucker   Jan-23-10 05:55 PM   #94 
  - Canada  Raine   Jan-23-10 06:36 PM   #97 
  - Czech Republic...and it's not if, it's when...  joeybee12   Jan-23-10 06:37 PM   #98 
  - I'm already in Hawaii  KonaKane   Jan-23-10 06:42 PM   #99 
  - You could say the same about the Florida Keys...  Andronex   Jan-23-10 09:40 PM   #146 
  - My daughter lived there for 2 years  DFW   Jan-24-10 03:40 AM   #165 
  - The Greek Isle of Corfu. .  B Calm   Jan-23-10 06:48 PM   #101 
  - The UK or New Zealand  lazarus   Jan-23-10 06:53 PM   #102 
  - New Zealand  AspenRose   Jan-23-10 07:02 PM   #104 
  - Sweden  ElmoBlatz   Jan-23-10 07:02 PM   #105 
  - Well, I sorta DID leave about 30 years ago (after a fashion) for Germany  DFW   Jan-23-10 07:06 PM   #107 
  - That is so awesome!  Caretha   Jan-23-10 08:13 PM   #115 
  - It wasn't easy in the beginning  DFW   Jan-23-10 08:22 PM   #118 
  - no regrets  Craufurd   Jan-23-10 08:36 PM   #125 
  - wow! beautiful story, beautiful people  pitohui   Jan-23-10 09:08 PM   #135 
  - You're not the first to come up with the Dorian Grey theory  DFW   Jan-24-10 03:32 AM   #164 
     - i've spent a little time in germany, but would love to spend more!!!  pitohui   Jan-24-10 10:54 PM   #201 
        - Life is definitely not cheap here  DFW   Jan-25-10 05:58 AM   #203 
  - great story.  bdamomma   Jan-25-10 08:13 AM   #211 
  - Canada, the UK, New Zealand, or Australia.  Kitty Herder   Jan-23-10 07:10 PM   #110 
  - Don't sell yourself short!  DFW   Jan-23-10 08:48 PM   #128 
  - My choice would be Ireland-climate similar to my own, national health,  quiller4   Jan-23-10 07:44 PM   #111 
  - Are any of those very welcoming to refugees, American refugees? nt  Umbral   Jan-23-10 07:46 PM   #112 
  - most americans aren't allowed to work in other countries  pitohui   Jan-23-10 09:16 PM   #136 
  - Australia  Terra Alta   Jan-23-10 07:50 PM   #113 
  - Second,third the idea.  greytdemocrat   Jan-23-10 08:30 PM   #124 
  - If you were to leave the U.S.......  Craufurd   Jan-23-10 08:16 PM   #116 
  - New Zealand  Political Heretic   Jan-23-10 08:20 PM   #117 
  - Canada would be the most realistic and easy route/choice for me.....  Joe the Liberal   Jan-23-10 08:22 PM   #119 
  - PS - can anyone tell me about the overall climate in NZ?  Political Heretic   Jan-23-10 08:22 PM   #120 
  - Depends on where you are  depakid   Jan-24-10 12:31 AM   #157 
     - I'd want to live some place with lots of options for solitude.  Political Heretic   Jan-24-10 01:30 AM   #161 
  - New Zealand. nt  Lorien   Jan-23-10 08:37 PM   #126 
  - Other, actually a tossup between Mexico, Canada and Austrailia.  old mark   Jan-23-10 08:41 PM   #127 
  - Amsterdam  Fire1sKid   Jan-23-10 08:53 PM   #129 
  - Dutch is not an easy language to learn. You might consider Malta,  B Calm   Jan-24-10 08:58 AM   #172 
  - i voted other, panama but costa rica would be wonderful too  pitohui   Jan-23-10 08:57 PM   #130 
  - any of the above n/t  8 track mind   Jan-23-10 08:58 PM   #131 
  - I'd try living anywhere, but Japan calls to me.  Forkboy   Jan-23-10 09:18 PM   #138 
  - Come visit anytime, Forkboy.  Bonobo   Jan-23-10 09:21 PM   #139 
     - You don't know how tempting that offer is.  Forkboy   Jan-23-10 09:24 PM   #142 
        - I promise...  Bonobo   Jan-23-10 10:23 PM   #148 
           - Bookmarked.  Forkboy   Jan-23-10 10:50 PM   #149 
              - Not good. The yen is strong. 90 yen: 1 dollar these days. nt  Bonobo   Jan-23-10 10:59 PM   #150 
                 - Good enough!  Forkboy   Jan-23-10 11:01 PM   #152 
                    - Bring some good parmesan cheese, would you?  Bonobo   Jan-24-10 12:04 AM   #154 
  - other  keroro gunsou   Jan-23-10 09:22 PM   #140 
  - Venezuela!  cherokeeprogressive   Jan-23-10 09:23 PM   #141 
  - Top 30 countries Human Development Index Ranking  Andronex   Jan-23-10 09:28 PM   #143 
  - New Zealand as first choice.  bikebloke   Jan-23-10 09:36 PM   #145 
  - Australia  undeterred   Jan-23-10 09:46 PM   #147 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-23-10 11:00 PM   #151 
  - Spain  lpbk2713   Jan-23-10 11:07 PM   #153 
  - SWEDEN  557188   Jan-24-10 12:34 AM   #158 
  - My wife was born and raised in London.  Liberal In Texas   Jan-24-10 12:40 AM   #159 
  - Shipping 1000 books is nothing  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-24-10 07:55 PM   #195 
  - Voted other, but already live outside the US in South Korea  davidpdx   Jan-24-10 02:03 AM   #163 
  - Central America or Thailand  Goldstein1984   Jan-24-10 04:04 AM   #166 
  - Before my life changed so drastically, my husband and I visited  Paper Roses   Jan-24-10 05:21 AM   #168 
  - Barbados -- family is there. nt  CBR   Jan-24-10 08:55 AM   #170 
  - I will go anywhere in Europe or most of Latin America...  a la izquierda   Jan-24-10 09:04 AM   #176 
  - Other--Panama --where we already have permanent resident visas  mnhtnbb   Jan-24-10 10:41 AM   #183 
  - Thailand  Atman   Jan-24-10 11:05 AM   #186 
  - I really liked France.  Marr   Jan-24-10 11:07 AM   #187 
  - Onondaga.  H2O Man   Jan-24-10 11:15 AM   #190 
  - Cuenca, Ecuador  Ishoutandscream2   Jan-24-10 11:17 AM   #191 
  - A friend told me they love Americans in Panama.  Doremus   Jan-24-10 11:23 AM   #193 
  - Germany  Pool Hall Ace   Jan-24-10 07:57 PM   #196 
  - Villokmin Svergie! Welcome to Sweden  Ildem09   Jan-24-10 10:49 PM   #199 
  - Vlkommen  DFW   Jan-26-10 06:03 AM   #216 
  - Could I be a vagabond for a while?  donheld   Jan-24-10 11:00 PM   #202 
  - India  pruple   Jan-25-10 06:05 AM   #205 
  - Canada.....It would be a very short trip.  marmar   Jan-25-10 07:04 AM   #209 
  - I think the GOP should leave and I'll stay here. n/t  deacon   Jan-25-10 07:39 AM   #210 
  - Jenovia  Norrin Radd   Jan-25-10 09:25 AM   #212 
  - I'd probably wind up going home...  truebrit71   Jan-25-10 11:20 AM   #214 
  - I'm looking into Belize right now.  Solly Mack   Jan-26-10 06:43 AM   #219 
 

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