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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:17 AM
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24. Wow. And you thought I had a unicorn to groom. You have "faith in the American public to
handle the info from corporations and unions in an intelligent way"?

Who's kidding whom. The American public is going to be getting their information from media giants that are going to be raking money in hand over fist to blast corporate messages and information to the public. Exactly how is the American public going to get the information it needs to "handle the info" in an intelligent way?
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  -Word a Constitutional Amendment that Precludes a Corporation Attaining/Retaining Pryderi  Jan-22-10 08:50 PM   #0 
  - You're going to have to help me here. What groups aren't entitled to free speech?  Learning Nomad   Jan-22-10 08:55 PM   #1 
  - The ACLU is not a person. Neither is Exxon GE or the PTA. So the answer to your question is  Pryderi   Jan-22-10 08:59 PM   #3 
  - Are you serious? A group has no right to free speech? Wow?  Learning Nomad   Jan-22-10 09:04 PM   #4 
  - Are you serious? You're arguing that non-humans have the same Constitutional rights that  Pryderi   Jan-22-10 09:10 PM   #7 
  - When it comes to free speech, yep, as any rational person would.  Learning Nomad   Jan-22-10 09:18 PM   #8 
     - Not if corporate rights are to jeopordize the rights of the individual. Corporations are tax  Pryderi   Jan-22-10 09:34 PM   #10 
        - Please tell us you don't vote, or that you're making this argument just to be contrarian.  Learning Nomad   Jan-22-10 09:39 PM   #12 
           - What truly needs to be done is to have money not equal to speech.  Pryderi   Jan-22-10 09:44 PM   #14 
              - You really don't have any understanding of the issues here, do you?  Learning Nomad   Jan-22-10 09:52 PM   #16 
                 - You don't understand the danger posed to our form of government given the latest ruling of SCOTUS.  Pryderi   Jan-22-10 10:03 PM   #17 
                    - Utter nonsense! And you continue to avoid the relevant question.  Learning Nomad   Jan-22-10 10:25 PM   #20 
                       - Wow. And you thought I had a unicorn to groom. You have "faith in the American public to  Pryderi   Jan-23-10 08:17 AM   #24 
                       - Sadly  Old Codger   Jan-23-10 09:04 AM   #25 
  - I thought the SC has ruled money is free speech  safeinOhio   Jan-22-10 09:37 PM   #11 
     - No they didn't. What in the world gave you that impression?  Learning Nomad   Jan-22-10 09:40 PM   #13 
        - this  safeinOhio   Jan-22-10 10:21 PM   #18 
  - btw, where does the 1st Amendment limit free speech to an individual person?  Learning Nomad   Jan-22-10 09:46 PM   #15 
     - The laws of incorporation  safeinOhio   Jan-22-10 10:24 PM   #19 
        - Huh? Is it only groups that are incorporated who lose their right to free speech?  Learning Nomad   Jan-22-10 11:23 PM   #23 
  - No, actually  northzax   Jan-22-10 10:31 PM   #21 
  - insert "natural' persons where it belongs.  omega minimo   Jan-22-10 08:57 PM   #2 
  - Never happen in time  Old Codger   Jan-22-10 09:04 PM   #5 
  - A simple "definitions" section would solve the problem  htuttle   Jan-22-10 09:04 PM   #6 
     - The first amendment makes no reference  Luminous Animal   Jan-22-10 09:24 PM   #9 
        - Yet, we have all kinds of restrictions that are not in that paragraph.  safeinOhio   Jan-22-10 10:42 PM   #22 
 

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