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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #90
92. Hoping it blows over, huh? It won't.
I'm sure they'll think of something to spin, it won't convince anyone but it will allow them some cover. Perception is everything!
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  -Obama today agreed to create the Social Security Commission.... Junkdrawer  Jan-20-10 06:17 PM   #0 
  - Going Into Overdrive So He Can FInish Off The Middle Class  MannyGoldstein   Jan-20-10 06:18 PM   #1 
  - Minor variation. The commission's findings is to be voted on by the next lame duck congress...  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 06:21 PM   #4 
  - +10000  amborin   Jan-20-10 07:15 PM   #23 
  - Probably worse than what you think it is. I don't trust him on this AT ALL.  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 07:17 PM   #24 
     - Of course not. Blazing policy that would have been mass protested under a Repuke  jonathon   Jan-20-10 08:00 PM   #47 
        - I suspect there will be mass protest if Obama thinks he gonna pull this off.  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 08:04 PM   #49 
        - What? And risk having foundations cut off funding for groups/individuals who might object?  Better Believe It   Jan-21-10 01:39 PM   #93 
        - only nixon could go to china  tiny elvis   Jan-22-10 01:23 AM   #119 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-20-10 06:20 PM   #2 
  - Be pretty ironic if he ended up doing what we were afraid the repukes were going to do.  timeforpeace   Jan-20-10 06:20 PM   #3 
  - ...but bracing. Maybe we won't be fooled so easily next time.  librechik   Jan-21-10 01:42 PM   #96 
     - He is a hunk...  StarryNite   Jan-21-10 03:23 PM   #108 
        - you got that right!  librechik   Jan-21-10 03:29 PM   #109 
  - What Reagan, Bush, and Bush could not do....  rfranklin   Jan-20-10 06:21 PM   #5 
  - Reagan raised the payroll tax to keep it solvent.  hollowdweller   Jan-20-10 08:21 PM   #57 
     - Not likely at all. I don't trust him to do anything but give what's left of it to Wall Street.  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 08:39 PM   #61 
     - uh, no, he DIDN'T. He raised the payroll tax to generate 30 years of rising surpluses, so that  Hannah Bell   Jan-20-10 09:50 PM   #75 
     - Well Yeah That's how it turned out for sure  hollowdweller   Jan-20-10 10:41 PM   #77 
     - If mere solvency had been the goal, lower rate increases in line with historical  Hannah Bell   Jan-21-10 02:37 AM   #80 
     - +infinity. nt  glitch   Jan-21-10 12:53 PM   #87 
     - You have a way of cutting to the chase. Thanks. n/t  truedelphi   Jan-21-10 05:51 PM   #115 
     - He also increased the retirement age which cut benefits! Forget about that?  Better Believe It   Jan-21-10 01:40 PM   #94 
  - We elected Democrats to end SS. --I wonder about the Political  OHdem10   Jan-20-10 06:21 PM   #6 
  - We really need to keep on top of this!  Alameda   Jan-20-10 06:21 PM   #7 
  - I found it with a Google....  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 06:23 PM   #9 
  - Wow  Nite Owl   Jan-20-10 06:22 PM   #8 
  - The only words that come to mind are these: "What fresh hell is this?"  scarletwoman   Jan-20-10 06:25 PM   #10 
  - what fresh hell indeed..  mdmc   Jan-20-10 06:28 PM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-20-10 06:28 PM   #15 
  - executing the administration over a panel? over-react much?  dionysus   Jan-20-10 08:08 PM   #51 
     - Uh huh. Well, we've heard all this before in the HCR debate  laughingliberal   Jan-21-10 01:42 PM   #95 
  - I'm glad I decided to take my SS early  Blue_In_AK   Jan-20-10 06:29 PM   # 
  - I'm glad for you! I don't dare. I'll have to keep working for 10 more years (if I can) if I want to  scarletwoman   Jan-20-10 06:41 PM   #20 
     - I'm so sorry, SW.  Blue_In_AK   Jan-21-10 12:36 AM   #79 
        - Nah, nothing to be sorry about. I wouldn't change a thing about how I lived my life.  scarletwoman   Jan-21-10 05:35 PM   #114 
  - A variation on the Conrad/Judd "Don't spend the Trust Fund" nonsense...  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 06:31 PM   #18 
  - Why don't they just say "austerity program" and call it what it is?  rockymountaindem   Jan-20-10 06:26 PM   #11 
  - Here we go. "Entitlement reform"  Smashcut   Jan-20-10 06:27 PM   #12 
  - And the hits just keep on comin'  jgraz   Jan-20-10 06:27 PM   #13 
  - You KNEW that this would be done while everyone was distracted....  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 06:53 PM   #21 
  - I don't suppose it crossed any of the brilliant minds of the Ruling Class that we could save  scarletwoman   Jan-20-10 06:29 PM   #16 
  - Well, ya gotta spend money to make money.....  blindpig   Jan-22-10 07:02 AM   #127 
  - That ought to wake up the sheep.  bemildred   Jan-20-10 06:29 PM   #17 
  - Harry Reid stood up to Bush  Enrique   Jan-20-10 06:33 PM   #19 
  - Oh dear god. nt  tbyg52   Jan-20-10 07:00 PM   #22 
  - Pissed beyond words!  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 07:21 PM   #25 
  - As long as excess FICA taxes funded the deficits, it was "Everything's Fine!"....  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 07:24 PM   #26 
     - Exactly! Rotten rat bastards!  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 07:27 PM   #30 
  - Will the commision release its prposal before Nov?  TxRider   Jan-20-10 07:25 PM   #27 
  - After the elections....  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 07:27 PM   #29 
     - Sneaky rotten rat bastards!  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 07:28 PM   #31 
     - How do you really feel... Don't hold back....  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 07:30 PM   #32 
        - Yeah it does, especially coming from a 'Democratic' Administration.  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 07:32 PM   #34 
     - Oh, how convenient.  Ignis   Jan-20-10 08:22 PM   #58 
        - Isn't it though?  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 08:40 PM   #62 
           - I guess I need to work on my chess game.  Ignis   Jan-20-10 08:47 PM   #69 
  - And what about the massive defense budget?  invictus   Jan-20-10 07:26 PM   #28 
  - FOREVER! Priorities man Priorities and we the people aren't even on their radar.  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 07:30 PM   #33 
  - Dem voters have been duped big time...  fascisthunter   Jan-20-10 07:33 PM   #35 
  - This is very un-nerving !  blues90   Jan-20-10 07:35 PM   #36 
  - Take away the Trust Fund and you're looking at SS cuts....  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 07:39 PM   #39 
  - I'm having trouble calling myself a Democrat after emotionally joining in 1967.  amandabeech   Jan-20-10 07:36 PM   #37 
  - Obama will dump Biden in 2012 replace with Alan Keyes  hollowdweller   Jan-20-10 08:27 PM   #59 
  - Screw you, Barack Obama.  undeterred   Jan-20-10 07:38 PM   #38 
  - +1  Fearless   Jan-20-10 08:15 PM   #54 
  - I didn't vote for Obama or McCain  blues90   Jan-20-10 08:20 PM   #56 
  - That's what he selling now, isn't it?  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 08:42 PM   #63 
  - I think you'd better start to organize, folks. This is "The Perfect Storm".  Hannah Bell   Jan-20-10 07:40 PM   #40 
  - Remember the "Obama and Pelosi would never do this!" posts on the other thread?  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 07:43 PM   #42 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-20-10 07:48 PM   #43 
     - It's certainly my last straw! Pissed off big time! Have had ENOUGH!  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 08:01 PM   #48 
        - ...  Hannah Bell   Jan-20-10 08:49 PM   #71 
  - Any suggestions on organizing?  blues90   Jan-20-10 08:10 PM   #52 
  - My wife today asked me what ever became of the Gray Panthers?  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 08:14 PM   #53 
  - "organize" = you & your friends do the heavy lifting. Talk to some people you think are likely to  Hannah Bell   Jan-20-10 09:05 PM   #72 
  - AARP: from the link above  Hannah Bell   Jan-20-10 10:24 PM   #76 
  - A Perfect Storm indeed:  Junkdrawer   Jan-21-10 06:19 PM   #116 
     - I was thinking also of the recession & the debt, purposefully jacked up by Bush, which can now be  Hannah Bell   Jan-21-10 11:48 PM   #117 
     - Very, very good article.  Junkdrawer   Jan-22-10 06:32 AM   #126 
     - You forgot to mention that the Supreme Court gives corporations the  JDPriestly   Jan-22-10 02:46 AM   #121 
  - That is not good.  Edweird   Jan-20-10 07:42 PM   #41 
  - Just started reading about this and Peter Peterson  suffragette   Jan-20-10 07:48 PM   #44 
  - Clue: It's the military spending that causes the debt more than anything else. Look at Russia.  L0oniX   Jan-20-10 07:56 PM   #45 
  - A lot more oldsters freezing to death....starving....going without meds.....  Junkdrawer   Jan-20-10 07:59 PM   #46 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-20-10 08:05 PM   #50 
     - Fine with me , give me a pill . If I lose SS and there are no jobs  blues90   Jan-20-10 08:15 PM   #55 
  - YES, we won the cold war and in another geneartion  Generator   Jan-20-10 08:43 PM   #64 
  - and it's never the rich's money they use  fascisthunter   Jan-21-10 01:08 PM   #91 
  - Strange. We "defeated" Russia by forcing them to spend  JDPriestly   Jan-22-10 02:49 AM   #123 
  - Is this the 'change' I voted for? nt  Obamanaut   Jan-20-10 08:37 PM   #60 
  - If the Democrats don't remove the cap on Social Security  rateyes   Jan-20-10 08:44 PM   #65 
  - hey don't do away with my Soc. Sec. without giving me my money back first  wordpix   Jan-20-10 08:44 PM   #66 
  - +1. Worked for it, only to have it looted, Nice, eh? Lousy bastards.  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-20-10 08:48 PM   #70 
  - knr for later n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-20-10 08:46 PM   #67 
  - this is Rahm and Zeke's way to raid SS. Medicare "reform" is coming too.  nightrain   Jan-20-10 08:47 PM   #68 
  - WTF.  Little Star   Jan-20-10 09:11 PM   #73 
  - from earlier today  MzNov   Jan-20-10 09:35 PM   #74 
  - Great find Junkdrawer  Oilwellian   Jan-20-10 10:59 PM   #78 
  - +1  Little Star   Jan-21-10 05:55 AM   #82 
  - +1  proudohioan   Jan-21-10 08:09 AM   #86 
  - +1  amborin   Jan-21-10 02:00 PM   #98 
  - Most definitely it IS intentional and part of a larger plan  tom_paine   Jan-21-10 02:40 PM   #102 
  - I wash my hands of this CON ARTIST  ima_sinnic   Jan-21-10 02:54 AM   #81 
  - He's trying to destroy the party  Red Knight   Jan-21-10 07:49 AM   #83 
  - I'll be 62 in 2013 and was counting on filing for my SS before it could be "reformed".  mnhtnbb   Jan-21-10 07:54 AM   #84 
  - Kick  Junkdrawer   Jan-21-10 08:09 AM   #85 
  - What, no cheers? Shift change? Maybe in a talking points meeting.  glitch   Jan-21-10 12:57 PM   #88 
  - There was a brief attempt at a rebuttal thread, but now that even Krugman....  Junkdrawer   Jan-21-10 01:07 PM   #90 
     - Hoping it blows over, huh? It won't.  glitch   Jan-21-10 01:34 PM   #92 
     - Look at the timing....  Junkdrawer   Jan-21-10 02:05 PM   #99 
     - I'm sure they'll come up with some inane talking, er, shouting point  ima_sinnic   Jan-21-10 01:58 PM   #97 
  - How can anyone doubt that Obama is promoting DLC's agenda?  Individualist   Jan-21-10 12:59 PM   #89 
  - Disinformation. It is NOT the "SS Commission". It is a BUDGET DEFICIT  johnaries   Jan-21-10 02:19 PM   #100 
  - You want PAYGO reinstated? Nothing like balancing the budget on the backs of working people  Better Believe It   Jan-21-10 03:13 PM   #106 
  - Once the economy is restored, yes. I don't want to see a return  johnaries   Jan-22-10 02:53 AM   #124 
  - To my mind, including Social Security in a Budget Deficit discussion....  Junkdrawer   Jan-21-10 03:37 PM   #112 
     - Would you rather see SS go bankrupt? Don't assume that the  johnaries   Jan-22-10 02:48 AM   #122 
        - It's far from being bankrupt. That's the old right-wing Wall Street political line which you  Better Believe It   Jan-22-10 10:31 PM   #128 
  - I guess I'm getting what I deserve -- I didn't like obama --  xchrom   Jan-21-10 02:21 PM   #101 
  - Oh, damn.  inna   Jan-21-10 02:48 PM   #103 
  - A wealthy country with money for war but not children & old people?  blueworld   Jan-21-10 03:09 PM   #104 
  - So we're going to CHANGE Social Security?  Bluebear   Jan-21-10 03:10 PM   #105 
  - "granted broad authority to propose changes"?  hughee99   Jan-21-10 03:21 PM   #107 
  - Because, AFAICS, the Commission is promised an up-or-down vote....  Junkdrawer   Jan-21-10 03:33 PM   #110 
     - Ah, transparency at it's finest. n/t  hughee99   Jan-21-10 03:35 PM   #111 
  - Oh, this must be that "turn to the left".  Marr   Jan-21-10 03:41 PM   #113 
  - My bipartisan solution.  MilesColtrane   Jan-22-10 12:52 AM   #118 
  - If benefits are cut, seniors will revolt and form a third party.  JDPriestly   Jan-22-10 02:40 AM   #120 
  - They've robbed the SS trust fund  jeanpalmer   Jan-22-10 03:30 AM   #125 
  - There's only one way I can see Obama now . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-22-10 10:33 PM   #129 
 

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