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Wed Jan-20-10 02:20 PM
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| 11. Yes, especially in high unemployment areas. |
| -Is it the President's job to create jobs? |
BOSSHOG |
Jan-20-10 02:07 PM |
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I don't know about The South, but when my late father was a teenager during ... |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-20-10 02:11 PM |
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my dad`s ccc/wpa administrator was ronny raygun`s dad..... |
madrchsod |
Jan-20-10 02:16 PM |
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Yes, especially in high unemployment areas. |
jwirr |
Jan-20-10 02:20 PM |
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Government Can Only Pay People If They First Take Those Resources From Others |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:11 PM |
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Create jobs to build up the infrastructure and national parks? eom |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-20-10 02:12 PM |
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Name removed |
Jan-20-10 02:30 PM |
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oh, *mises.* now there's an unbiased authority. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 02:46 PM |
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in a truly free society one cannot steal something from someone else |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:55 PM |
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in your free society, what prevents people from stealing from each other? |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 02:58 PM |
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thats a good question, for the most part, third parties were used for contracts |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 03:00 PM |
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in what sense are "third parties" who enforce contracts not "government"? |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 03:07 PM |
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they don't use force, obviously...only government can do that |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 03:10 PM |
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I read the blurbs. It's bullshit. "Parties would abide" because of the force behind it. Duh. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 03:12 PM |
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you are angry....and its affecting your rational thinking... |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 03:15 PM |
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Typical. when a libertarian can't make a counter-argument, they make it about the character |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 03:20 PM |
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I'm sorry...I should not have made a personal comment about you... |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 03:22 PM |
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lol. Mises = an aristocrat who drew a salary from business interests his entire life. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 03:32 PM |
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hehe....he made money yes |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 09:18 AM |
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i make money. but not by being the paid mouthpiece of private capital. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-21-10 05:36 PM |
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That's not really logical, though... |
Romulox |
Jan-20-10 03:53 PM |
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read that book |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 09:20 AM |
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You're speaking gibberish. |
Romulox |
Jan-21-10 09:48 AM |
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wow |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:02 AM |
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You don't seem to understand that real life has no Dungeon Master-- |
Romulox |
Jan-21-10 10:09 AM |
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so your asnwer is to support big government? |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:18 AM |
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My answer is to reject your entire framing as unrealistic nonsense. nt |
Romulox |
Jan-21-10 10:20 AM |
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hehehe.... |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:22 AM |
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Nice artificial dichotomy |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:34 AM |
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so you want a semi big gov.? |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:36 AM |
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Like corporations don't steal resources |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:38 AM |
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big corporations can only exist because of help from the gov. |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:40 AM |
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They are distinct entities |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:43 AM |
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again.....big corporations, that you hate, can only exist because gov. gives them unfair advantage |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:44 AM |
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Here: |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:47 AM |
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he doesnt HAVE to do anything |
NightWatcher |
Jan-20-10 02:12 PM |
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yes it is.... |
madrchsod |
Jan-20-10 02:13 PM |
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But why would conservatives say that? |
BOSSHOG |
Jan-20-10 02:19 PM |
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they have to blame someone for their situation |
madrchsod |
Jan-20-10 02:42 PM |
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It is the President's job to act for the benefit of the Ameircan People... |
Ozymanithrax |
Jan-20-10 02:13 PM |
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When "creating jobs" is a pillar of his election campaign... then YES, he'd better deliver. (n/t) |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-20-10 02:14 PM |
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Yes. |
Edweird |
Jan-20-10 02:19 PM |
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Glad to hear it. Most RW fake patriots say the government can't create jobs and favor more |
laughingliberal |
Jan-20-10 02:21 PM |
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not true...republicans love gov. jobs - warfare state |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:38 PM |
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True. But I don't think that's the kind of jobs to which the OP was referring. nt |
laughingliberal |
Jan-20-10 02:57 PM |
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and don't forget the police state too....but lets not leave out dems... |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 03:01 PM |
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Yes, in times such as these it is the president's job to create jobs. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-20-10 02:21 PM |
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I Would Say That It's the President's Job |
On the Road |
Jan-20-10 02:22 PM |
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yes |
guitar man |
Jan-20-10 02:25 PM |
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I thought some of the $787 billion was going to do exactly that. nt |
Obamanaut |
Jan-20-10 02:26 PM |
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Republicans Do Favor Government Job Creation - The Warfare State |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:32 PM |
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the "jobs" aren't crucial. the bucks to rich contractors & stockholders are. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 02:51 PM |
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either way, all gov. jobs must be funded by taking resources from others |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:58 PM |
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so what? if someone amasses capital, it also takes resources from others. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 03:04 PM |
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in a truly free market, noone "takes" something from someone else...transactions occur |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 03:14 PM |
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you said you didn't want to argue, but here you are, still arguing. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 03:34 PM |
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i like you |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 09:22 AM |
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They want govt to stay out of their lives until it effects them personally. |
Jennicut |
Jan-20-10 02:32 PM |
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thats not true...they want gov. job creation - warfare state |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:38 PM |
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Some rethugs do. Some want govt. entirely dismantled. |
Jennicut |
Jan-20-10 02:43 PM |
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ron paul types are libertarians, not a republicans |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:56 PM |
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Well, you are correct on that. |
Jennicut |
Jan-20-10 02:58 PM |
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I think they just use the republican party |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:59 PM |
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Yes. |
aquart |
Jan-20-10 02:37 PM |
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The government gotta do SOMETHING. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-20-10 02:37 PM |
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Gov. can only pay people by taking that money from others first |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:39 PM |
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you don't know much about history, do you? those "other people" got their $$$ |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-10 02:53 PM |
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true... |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 02:57 PM |
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Were you in a coma when the gov't was handing out TRILLIONS to banks? |
Romulox |
Jan-20-10 03:55 PM |
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they have to take money from people....or counterfiet the money.... |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 09:21 AM |
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It's just so silly that you're willing to shut off the music in this game of |
Romulox |
Jan-21-10 09:50 AM |
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what are you talking about? |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:03 AM |
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1) the gov't distributes TRILLIONS to corps; 2) Randian decides gov't handouts are HENCEFORTH wrong; |
Romulox |
Jan-21-10 10:11 AM |
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who is Randian? |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:21 AM |
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She's your ideological fairy god-mother, and you don't even know her name? |
Romulox |
Jan-21-10 10:25 AM |
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Oh jesus |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:29 AM |
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lol |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:31 AM |
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I'm too busy with Mises, Lew and Ron Paul, and Rothbard |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:30 AM |
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Dude, that's like saying you're not interested in Shakespeare, because you're into DRAMA (e.g. CSI). |
Romulox |
Jan-21-10 10:37 AM |
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again....why your love affair with the state? |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:39 AM |
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So now people who disagree |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:41 AM |
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how can an organization that steals resources from people |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:43 AM |
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Your slip is showing. How long do you reckon before your big flame out? nt |
Romulox |
Jan-21-10 10:43 AM |
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Wow. He's gone. |
Romulox |
Jan-21-10 11:18 AM |
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It's his duty to protect the ones we have, that's for damn sure. |
Dappleganger |
Jan-20-10 02:43 PM |
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Nope. nt |
krabigirl |
Jan-20-10 02:48 PM |
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Yes when unemployment is hitting double digits |
TxRider |
Jan-20-10 02:49 PM |
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Yes. |
Iggo |
Jan-20-10 02:52 PM |
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sometimes |
RainDog |
Jan-20-10 02:56 PM |
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YES.. NEXT QUESTION. |
ddeclue |
Jan-20-10 02:58 PM |
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I think |
BOSSHOG |
Jan-20-10 03:00 PM |
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well, maintaining an army and police state require many government jobs |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 03:03 PM |
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That's a potential inroad for democrats in the South. |
frustrated_lefty |
Jan-20-10 03:00 PM |
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No, it's the President's job to give money to companies and trust them to create jobs |
wickerwoman |
Jan-20-10 03:09 PM |
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exactly...gov. moving resources around by force does not work... |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 03:16 PM |
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"Ok" |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 09:37 AM |
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Only if he wants to get re-elected. |
undeterred |
Jan-20-10 03:15 PM |
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Business and industry creates jobs. |
timeforpeace |
Jan-20-10 03:17 PM |
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Unfortunately Big Businesses Use Gov. to Have Unfair Advantages |
kerrywins |
Jan-20-10 03:27 PM |
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Whoeever makes the rules and enforces the rules |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 09:41 AM |
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the only difference |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:04 AM |
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So you concede |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:12 AM |
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true...government will always be corrupt... |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:17 AM |
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MAN is corrupt, Kerry |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:27 AM |
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you seem to think that without gov. everything falls apart |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:32 AM |
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I've already read Mises |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:38 AM |
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i don't think you have read mises |
kerrywins |
Jan-21-10 10:42 AM |
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No |
Mixopterus |
Jan-21-10 10:45 AM |
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I can be. Especially when the private sector is off masturbating in a corner or something. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jan-20-10 03:17 PM |
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When The Private Economy Stops Creating Jobs, Then Yes, The Govt Must Then Create Them |
Yavin4 |
Jan-21-10 09:51 AM |
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They haven't made it easy |
Alias Dictus Tyrant |
Jan-21-10 10:28 AM |
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Terry Branstad, the Republican candidate for governor in Iowa, claims |
bullwinkle428 |
Jan-21-10 10:22 AM |
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