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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 05:47 PM
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45. The reason I oppose this bill is BECAUSE I give a shit.
You are selling the lipstick and ignoring the PIG.

YES. Some people would be helped,
but at a Pyrrhic cost.

The PIG:
Individual Mandates with NO Public Option is the FOUNDATION of The Bill.
It permanently enshrines the For Profit Health Insurance Industry as the gateway to Health Care in America.
No future "adjustments" will make THIS FOUNDATION better.
It can't be "fixed later".

For context, compare THIS bill to Health Care in ANY civilized country in The WORLD.
"A Uniquely American Solution"....INDEED.


The Blood Bath:
LESS than 35% of ALL Americans support Mandates without a Public Option.
This will NOT campaign well against Republicans who WILL simply say,
"YEP! We opposed it" when the low information voters are forced to start paying The Bills.


ANY and ALL "regulation" can and will be quickly de-regulated (or simply not enforced).


I fully support the Health Care Reform Obama & The Democratic Party campaigned on:
A viable and competitive Public Option funded by raising taxes on those who make over $200,000/year.

I fully oppose THIS Republican Plan that has been substituted for the one they campaigned on.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone




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  -" Its ALL Joe Lieberman's FAULT !!! " bvar22  Jan-18-10 01:29 PM   #0 
  - I blame Ralph Nader - if he didn't run in 2000  mdmc   Jan-18-10 01:31 PM   #1 
  - Ouch!  dkf   Jan-18-10 01:33 PM   #5 
  - Good one! nt  Blasphemer   Jan-18-10 06:00 PM   #46 
  - !  Dr. Strange   Jan-18-10 06:29 PM   #48 
  - WERD!  Cronus Protagonist   Jan-18-10 01:32 PM   #2 
  - Democrats enabled Liebermans poison pill.  dkf   Jan-18-10 01:32 PM   #3 
  - Liebermann is just a convenient fall guy  dflprincess   Jan-18-10 01:33 PM   #4 
  - that post is like alex jones with a dash of art bell thrown in for flavor  dionysus   Jan-18-10 01:37 PM   #9 
  - Obama said he "got 95% of what he wanted."  chimpymustgo   Jan-18-10 01:42 PM   #14 
     - I tremble to think what the other 5% might have been  dflprincess   Jan-18-10 02:00 PM   #22 
  - you manage to post that pic every day, don't you?  dionysus   Jan-18-10 01:34 PM   #6 
  - Yes!  bvar22   Jan-18-10 01:41 PM   #13 
  - just asking a question.  dionysus   Jan-18-10 01:54 PM   #19 
     - and not answering any.  bvar22   Jan-18-10 01:56 PM   #21 
        - i'm not a fan of the DLC, but apparently they're some kind of all-purpose bogey-man for you.  dionysus   Jan-18-10 02:13 PM   #30 
           - bogey-man ?  bvar22   Jan-18-10 02:23 PM   #32 
  - Its a picture that can't be repeated too much  dflprincess   Jan-18-10 02:01 PM   #23 
  - Do you object to the picture being posted  sabrina 1   Jan-18-10 05:12 PM   #44 
  - If Obama had been more like LBJ this never would have  Fire1   Jan-18-10 01:36 PM   #7 
  - Ah Grasshopper,  Fire1sKid   Jan-18-10 01:40 PM   #11 
  - Possibly - but the next question that arises is why didn't LBJ establish universal healthcare...  LeftishBrit   Jan-18-10 02:04 PM   #26 
  - Admittedly, I should have added the sarcasm tag but I feel  Fire1   Jan-18-10 02:11 PM   #28 
  - LBJ DID open the door with Medicare.  bvar22   Jan-18-10 02:20 PM   #31 
  - He got Medicare eom  daa   Jan-18-10 02:53 PM   #35 
  - They rolled out Ronnie Raygun records at Tea Parties back then.  Dr.Phool   Jan-18-10 03:50 PM   #41 
  - OBAMA HAS 68% DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS?!?!?!??! You're kidding right?!  uponit7771   Jan-19-10 01:17 PM   #56 
  - As I said many times, this bill should be titled  quinnox   Jan-18-10 01:36 PM   #8 
  - You're worse than Holy Joe IMO  tridim   Jan-18-10 01:38 PM   #10 
  - Oh YES!.  bvar22   Jan-18-10 01:50 PM   #17 
     - IMO you're worse because you're predending to give a shit..  tridim   Jan-18-10 03:41 PM   #40 
        - The reason I oppose this bill is BECAUSE I give a shit.  bvar22   Jan-18-10 05:47 PM   #45 
        - get with the fucking program and help us help (a few of) the uninsured  RaleighNCDUer   Jan-20-10 03:01 PM   #59 
  - Our party let us down terribly on this one!  The Midway Rebel   Jan-18-10 01:40 PM   #12 
  - Yea, PASSING real HCR after decades of failure is such a letdown.  tridim   Jan-18-10 01:42 PM   #15 
     - "Real" Health Care "Reform" ???  bvar22   Jan-18-10 02:01 PM   #24 
     - Yes, real HCR  tridim   Jan-18-10 03:33 PM   #37 
        - Next, you'll be saying.  Dr.Phool   Jan-18-10 03:52 PM   #42 
           - Are you for the status quo?  tridim   Jan-19-10 01:32 PM   #58 
     - Nope! Been without for over 10 fucking years! Thanks "Democratic Party"!  The Midway Rebel   Jan-18-10 02:09 PM   #27 
     - Then you're fighting against your own self-interest.  tridim   Jan-18-10 03:35 PM   #38 
        - They are just calling it "reform" to fool the low information voters.  bvar22   Jan-18-10 06:00 PM   #47 
        - Why are you cheering for another corporate handout? How ironic.  The Midway Rebel   Jan-18-10 07:31 PM   #49 
           - Why are HC stocks rising today on news that HCR might fail?  tridim   Jan-19-10 01:28 PM   #57 
     - Got mine already?  bvar22   Jan-18-10 02:31 PM   #33 
     - Insurance reform with mandates and no cost control  daa   Jan-18-10 02:57 PM   #36 
        - Read the bills.  tridim   Jan-18-10 03:36 PM   #39 
           - So is Lipitor going to be half price like is it in Canada?  daa   Jan-19-10 01:10 PM   #52 
  - Tell us how  dmallind   Jan-18-10 01:46 PM   #16 
  - it's easier to invent conspiracies about how obama and holy joe were in it together.  dionysus   Jan-18-10 01:55 PM   #20 
  - Yeap, and for some reason people rec these post...this doesn't move me away from a concerted effort  uponit7771   Jan-19-10 01:13 PM   #55 
  - There are many other ways.  bvar22   Jan-18-10 02:12 PM   #29 
  - ....uh....uh....you run him over with .....a ....tricycle or a ......big wheel....PONY!!!!  uponit7771   Jan-19-10 01:12 PM   #54 
  - you awful person, you, telling it like it is!  ima_sinnic   Jan-18-10 01:52 PM   #18 
  - Well OK  treestar   Jan-18-10 02:01 PM   #25 
  - George Bush and the Republicans NEVER needed that 60th vote.  bvar22   Jan-18-10 02:36 PM   #34 
  - I'm not sure that's true  treestar   Jan-18-10 09:57 PM   #50 
  - "At least it is Lieberman rather than a repuke "?  Atticus   Jan-18-10 10:04 PM   #51 
  - kick  ima_sinnic   Jan-18-10 05:09 PM   #43 
  - Please cite the LAW that says Lieberman MUST vote the way Obama wants him to? Tia  uponit7771   Jan-19-10 01:11 PM   #53 
 

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