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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 01:59 PM
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5. Reconciliation has certain problems
Anything passed through reconciliation has to be germaine to the budget. A public option could probably pass, but the insurance regulations could not, nor could the insurance exchanges.

Also, anything that is ruled not directly related to the budget violates the "Byrd Rule," which then needs 60 votes to be waived. And if it's not deficit neutral, the whole thing expires in 10 years.

Now, Bernie Sanders and Chuck Schumer have argued we should have gone through reconciliation anyway and that we could probably have gotten the bill passed. Tom Harkin and Russ Feingold, however, have said that they didn't believe in reconciliation because they didn't think you'd get a good bill out of it. You'd get some pieces, and maybe a weak public option, but nothing else.

Also, the committee in charge of preparing a reconciliation bill would be Kent Conrad's, and he's hardly a progressive champion. Plus, he opposed the public option - he said he wouldn't filibuster or vote against a bill with one, but he didn't favor that component.
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  -simple question on health care reform: are there even 51 votes for public option? yurbud  Jan-17-10 01:38 PM   #0 
  - Didnt 54 Senators commit to the PO a few months back?  DJ13   Jan-17-10 01:41 PM   #1 
     - Sounds about right.  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-17-10 01:44 PM   #2 
     - then why didn't THEY push for reconciliation instead of a lame bill that could get 60 votes?  yurbud   Jan-17-10 01:51 PM   #3 
        - Maybe the Democratic Senate photo is a clue?  DJ13   Jan-17-10 01:58 PM   #4 
        - they're the chickens that let the corporate fox in the henhouse.  yurbud   Jan-17-10 02:08 PM   #7 
        - Reconciliation has certain problems  liberalpragmatist   Jan-17-10 01:59 PM   #5 
        - they could have split it into two bills  yurbud   Jan-17-10 02:07 PM   #6 
           - Possibly  liberalpragmatist   Jan-17-10 02:10 PM   #8 
              - that would have been a double edged sword--if insurance regulation didn't go through...  yurbud   Jan-17-10 03:00 PM   #9 
              - Yes public option first. This would lessen opposition to a mandate.  dkf   Jan-17-10 03:00 PM   #10 
        - They're using the 60 vote bullshit to hide their allegiance to their corporate masters!  B Calm   Jan-17-10 03:21 PM   #11 
 

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