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Sun Jan-17-10 12:53 PM
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| 50. What would you call a fact like this, one that puts to death the notion that |
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defeat of the 'centrists' is good for the liberal policy and membership in the activist lefty club?
An Uber fact?
A neo-fact?
Reality??
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| -When the Repukes took congress in '94, How far left did it push the Dems? |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 09:19 AM |
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Tu as raison. Tienes razon. |
MineralMan |
Jan-17-10 09:21 AM |
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So them dems move right if they lose seats AND they move right if they win a majority? |
leeroysphitz |
Jan-17-10 09:24 AM |
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Get MORE involved and elect MORE progressives. |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 09:30 AM |
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Isn't it strange how so many seem unable to figure that one out themselves? n/t |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Jan-17-10 09:33 AM |
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If they admitted it to themselves, they'd see they have to take responsibility. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-17-10 09:44 AM |
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Oh no! It's the party's fault |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 10:23 AM |
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Amen! |
treestar |
Jan-17-10 10:45 AM |
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That's why I spelled it out. |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 10:12 AM |
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Easier said then done when our politicians break their promises. |
last1standing |
Jan-17-10 10:41 AM |
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You mean people who the party actively submarines? |
Raineyb |
Jan-17-10 01:14 PM |
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Once again, if you've waited until election season then you've already lost. |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 01:27 PM |
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And the machine that's there when there is no election is no friend of progressives either. |
Raineyb |
Jan-17-10 02:02 PM |
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And what are you doing to correct that? |
MineralMan |
Jan-17-10 09:37 AM |
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The only bad thing about Al Franken as Senator is... |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 09:41 AM |
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There is that, of course, but I'll take the hit to have him in the |
MineralMan |
Jan-17-10 09:49 AM |
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What am I doing? Well for starters.... |
leeroysphitz |
Jan-17-10 09:56 AM |
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Your role is limited because you only vote every couple of years |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 10:00 AM |
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You think that's all you can do? Vote? How silly. |
MineralMan |
Jan-17-10 10:24 AM |
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Let me see if I understand you. If I am not devoting 168+ hours per week to taking |
leeroysphitz |
Jan-17-10 12:42 PM |
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You spend 168+ hours a week arguing on the internet? |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 12:53 PM |
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Your response reminds me of /Happy Gilmore/. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-17-10 12:57 PM |
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Right. The best part of that jedi mind trick is that it is ALWAYS YOUR FAULT. |
Edweird |
Jan-17-10 10:20 AM |
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The more progressive you vote into office... |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 10:26 AM |
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No, I'm pissed because I was lied to. |
Edweird |
Jan-17-10 10:27 AM |
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I've worked in retail too long to buy that line |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 10:30 AM |
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Ah. Ok, so please decifer this for me, oh great one. |
Edweird |
Jan-17-10 10:33 AM |
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What I saw on the video |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 10:38 AM |
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"you only chose to listen to what you wanted to hear". Mmhmm. Project much? |
Edweird |
Jan-17-10 10:46 AM |
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How is what I said wrong. |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 11:11 AM |
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Obama..actively discouraging...public insurance option |
Edweird |
Jan-17-10 10:51 AM |
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That article shows Obama's support for a Triggered PO |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 10:55 AM |
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No, sorry. Either there is a public option, or there isn't. |
Edweird |
Jan-17-10 11:14 AM |
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You're right. A triggered Public Option IS a Public Option |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 11:17 AM |
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I can see you are having a hard time understanding things. Maybe this will help you. |
Edweird |
Jan-17-10 11:27 AM |
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You post a lot of links. Do you have any opinions of your own? |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 12:51 PM |
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Uh, do what now? Are you 'multi-tasking' or something? |
Edweird |
Jan-17-10 01:05 PM |
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Ed, I usually put someone on ignore when the call Obama a liar |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 01:20 PM |
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I see. You're going to an "example" of me? Is that some kind of threat? |
Edweird |
Jan-17-10 01:53 PM |
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This is the best point in the best goddammed OP this week. |
cliffordu |
Jan-17-10 01:01 PM |
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Thanks Cliffordu |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 01:15 PM |
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Ain't that the truth. Perfectly explained! nt |
laughingliberal |
Jan-17-10 10:38 AM |
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Abso-freakin-lutely! |
DisgustedInMN |
Jan-17-10 11:27 AM |
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+1 |
FLAprogressive |
Jan-18-10 12:42 PM |
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That does seem to generally be the case |
Blasphemer |
Jan-17-10 01:20 PM |
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Amen. |
ClassWarrior |
Jan-17-10 09:25 AM |
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What does NGU mean? |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 09:36 AM |
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Never give up. nt |
tblue37 |
Jan-17-10 09:48 AM |
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Excellent! |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 09:55 AM |
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Oh, sorry. People do often ask for clarification of the initialisms |
tblue37 |
Jan-18-10 12:40 PM |
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K&R!!!! |
NJmaverick |
Jan-17-10 09:45 AM |
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Well.. |
DisgustedInMN |
Jan-17-10 09:49 AM |
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Democratic precinct and senate district caucuses are on |
MineralMan |
Jan-17-10 09:50 AM |
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Well friend.. |
DisgustedInMN |
Jan-17-10 09:55 AM |
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Good. So was I. And I'll be there again on Feb. 2. |
MineralMan |
Jan-17-10 10:00 AM |
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I don't think the browbeating was worthless. |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 09:53 AM |
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The Dems became the party of "ME, TOO!!!" we got all kinds of ass kissing |
old mark |
Jan-17-10 09:59 AM |
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And ultimately, we got Shrub. |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 10:02 AM |
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Exactly |
treestar |
Jan-17-10 10:43 AM |
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Even as a naive 18 year old in 1994 I knew it would turn the Dems more conservative |
Jennicut |
Jan-17-10 11:13 AM |
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I was younger than 18 at the time |
Grand Taurean |
Jan-17-10 11:58 PM |
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You remember poorly |
jgraz |
Jan-17-10 12:14 PM |
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Repukes took congress because the dems were moving right |
anonymous171 |
Jan-17-10 12:15 PM |
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I'm not sure it was the fact that the dems were moving right |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jan-17-10 12:58 PM |
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Bill Clinton signed NAFTA in 93, which made the paranoid right go into a frenzy |
anonymous171 |
Jan-17-10 01:03 PM |
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Along with DADT and HillaryCare. |
jgraz |
Jan-17-10 01:57 PM |
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I don't know about NAFTA sending the paranoid right go into a frenzy |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jan-17-10 11:26 PM |
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Clinton didn't even threaten a VETO. NT |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-18-10 12:03 AM |
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EXCELLENT POST! |
Cosmocat |
Jan-17-10 01:39 PM |
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Thanks |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jan-17-10 06:06 PM |
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I usually respond to all my replies |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 12:50 PM |
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What would you call a fact like this, one that puts to death the notion that |
cliffordu |
Jan-17-10 12:53 PM |
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A truism. |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 12:54 PM |
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Thank you. |
cliffordu |
Jan-17-10 12:55 PM |
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2010 is not 1994 |
WinterParkDonkey |
Jan-17-10 06:17 PM |
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Bump for the evening shift |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-17-10 09:37 PM |
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If both sides are in bed with Corporations and promote fascism, does it |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-18-10 12:02 AM |
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I agree |
DeadEyeDyck |
Jan-18-10 12:06 AM |
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Jan-18-10 12:16 AM |
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That may be what you remember, but it's still wrong. |
Greyhound |
Jan-18-10 12:32 AM |
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Gun control was the biggest reason for the losses |
WonderGrunion |
Jan-18-10 04:54 AM |
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That is your perspective, as is assigning the AWB the label of "liberal legislation", |
Greyhound |
Jan-18-10 11:28 AM |
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