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Response to Reply #18
29. I think between now and November a lot can happen...
... if top Democrats in D.C. can snap out of their stupor.

Win or lose Tuesday, I'm extremely curious to see what message they take away from this race.

Maybe Pres. Obama gets it already. I liked his statement to the bankers, where he said, essentially, it's our money and we're taking it back.

That's exactly the right tone, IMO, and can carry us a long way if he and other leading Dems really mean it, and back it up with some meaningful actions that make clear, instinctive sense to ordinary people.



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  -The Glaring Lesson Already Evident in Massachusetts. David Zephyr  Jan-16-10 08:07 PM   #0 
  - My my, what an expert you are on Massachusetts politics  graywarrior   Jan-16-10 08:09 PM   #1 
  - So what is the mood there?  dkf   Jan-16-10 08:11 PM   #3 
  - This is the mood  graywarrior   Jan-16-10 08:18 PM   #9 
  - Super cool.  dkf   Jan-16-10 08:23 PM   #12 
  - David, they didn't realize the day of reckoning would be this soon, or in this venue. They thought  timeforpeace   Jan-16-10 08:53 PM   #34 
     - In this case, it's just 'The best laid plans of mice...', No shame, have they?  Joe Chi Minh   Jan-17-10 06:12 AM   #85 
     - Excellent observation, timeforpeace.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 02:57 PM   #186 
  - I hope you do, graywarrior. I would loathe to see a tea bagger in the  roguevalley   Jan-16-10 09:04 PM   #38 
  - Damn shame it would be  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 06:04 AM   #84 
  - I agree 100%, but  dotymed   Jan-17-10 08:35 AM   #107 
     - I don't buy the 60 vote excuse either  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 08:54 AM   #115 
  - How is that teabagger Kennedy polling?  mdmc   Jan-17-10 08:29 AM   #104 
     - His name is Kennedy. The fear is that some voters will vote the name. nt  rhett o rick   Jan-17-10 12:44 PM   #158 
  - Good luck. Didn't realize it could be so hard to keep Kennedy's seat. So who screwed up?  Better Believe It   Jan-16-10 09:49 PM   #45 
  - A few factors  cadmium   Jan-17-10 02:51 PM   #183 
     - True .... MA did vote for Romney . . . if we can believe computer voting--????  defendandprotect   Jan-17-10 03:10 PM   #191 
        - Another bit of confusion  cadmium   Jan-17-10 03:20 PM   #198 
           - Duh . . . sorry --  defendandprotect   Jan-17-10 04:25 PM   #220 
              - One scenario I picture is for elderly  cadmium   Jan-17-10 04:45 PM   #231 
                 - hmmm...... could happen ..... and is the real Joe Kennedy still in MA . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-17-10 07:28 PM   #256 
  - We have to keep Brown out of that seat.  Enthusiast   Jan-17-10 06:56 AM   #93 
  - God Bless you and your efforts.  mikekohr   Jan-17-10 10:20 AM   #126 
  - it's like gore v bush in 2000.  tomp   Jan-17-10 11:29 AM   #135 
  - Memories of living in Ohio working our butts off for Kerry and then Obama.  peace13   Jan-17-10 02:54 PM   #184 
  - The ENTIRE U.S. is counting on Massachusetts...  orbitalman   Jan-17-10 04:36 PM   #229 
  - I thank you, graywarrior  Lifelong Protester   Jan-17-10 06:59 PM   #252 
  - some ought to be picketing the hannity megastations tomorrow asking brown  certainot   Jan-17-10 07:02 PM   #254 
  - Just from what  dotymed   Jan-17-10 08:26 AM   #103 
  - There is a handful of people who feel that, in exchange for helping Obama in 2008...  NYC_SKP   Jan-16-10 08:14 PM   #5 
  - bullshit.  robinlynne   Jan-16-10 08:30 PM   #19 
  - Yeah, I think it's bullshit too. But that's how a few feel.  NYC_SKP   Jan-16-10 08:46 PM   #31 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-10 01:51 AM   #72 
     - I always find it fascinating when the "big tent" point is brought up by the same...  Spazito   Jan-17-10 11:00 AM   #133 
        - the DLCers are the reason this party is in trouble, even with a majority  fascisthunter   Jan-17-10 11:40 AM   #139 
        - A perfect example of my post n/t  Spazito   Jan-17-10 11:55 AM   #142 
        - No, he has you on that point.  StreetKnowledge   Jan-17-10 05:17 PM   #242 
           - If Democrats vote then Coakley wins  Cary   Jan-17-10 06:18 PM   #248 
        - Thats what I'm talking about  Vincardog   Jan-17-10 05:45 PM   #244 
        - ?..The Democratic Party IS a big tent, BUT  bvar22   Jan-17-10 11:44 AM   #141 
           - Yet another example of what I posted about n/t  Spazito   Jan-17-10 11:55 AM   #143 
           - So...  bvar22   Jan-17-10 12:15 PM   #150 
              - LOL, and this addresses my pointing out the "big tent" hypocrisy...  Spazito   Jan-17-10 12:28 PM   #154 
           - bvar22 +2000... No Matter WHAT Others May Think Of Edwards! He  ChiciB1   Jan-17-10 12:04 PM   #148 
           - The DLC represent corporate entities, not PEOPLE, unless you believe in corporate "personhood"  cascadiance   Jan-17-10 12:55 PM   #163 
              - !!!  bvar22   Jan-17-10 03:22 PM   #199 
              - DLC is poison in the Dem Party . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-17-10 04:28 PM   #222 
              - Exactly . . ..  defendandprotect   Jan-17-10 04:28 PM   #221 
     - Politics is personal.  JDPriestly   Jan-17-10 10:48 AM   #127 
        - You Speak For Me Too! I Worked Hard To Get Obama Elected...  ChiciB1   Jan-17-10 11:42 AM   #140 
        - JDPriestly's post is what the White House and Harry Reid should be reading today.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:08 PM   #190 
        - Don't wander off alone . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-17-10 04:30 PM   #225 
        - JDPriestly, your post hit home with me.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:06 PM   #189 
        - Agree . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-17-10 04:31 PM   #227 
        - Long, sad review . . .. and true . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-17-10 04:30 PM   #224 
        - Very true.  Rockholm   Jan-19-10 06:36 AM   #312 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-16-10 08:32 PM   #21 
  - Oh brother.  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-16-10 09:07 PM   #39 
  - Promise and then follow through!  pocoloco   Jan-16-10 10:22 PM   #50 
  - Saving it for years 7 and 8.  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 06:24 AM   #88 
  - And that response is just the one to bring us together?  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 06:14 AM   #86 
  - Personally,  dotymed   Jan-17-10 08:48 AM   #112 
     - 100% agreement. I am generally supportive of all Dem candidates.  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 08:57 AM   #118 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-10 08:43 AM   #111 
  - One here! Thought we ought to get some of that change we were told to believe in.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-17-10 09:19 AM   #119 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-10 11:27 PM   #272 
  - Shame on you.  DisgustedInMN   Jan-17-10 09:29 AM   #121 
  - Ditto. nt.  OrwellwasRight   Jan-17-10 11:56 AM   #145 
  - Denigrating the left will not help Democrats win. I hope you arent intending to split the party. nt  rhett o rick   Jan-17-10 12:45 PM   #159 
  - I know people who not only spent the fall of 2008 but also  truedelphi   Jan-17-10 05:19 PM   #243 
     - but, doncha know, some of us are just idealists  newspeak   Jan-18-10 11:06 AM   #296 
        - It would be an insult to the memory of Teddy.  truedelphi   Jan-18-10 06:00 PM   #308 
  - I get what he's saying. Not sure why you are taking it personal.  CANDO   Jan-16-10 08:26 PM   #14 
  - +1  David Zephyr   Jan-16-10 08:31 PM   #20 
  - CANDO, you nailed it!! Thank you.  bertman   Jan-16-10 11:12 PM   #55 
  - ++1  leftstreet   Jan-16-10 11:20 PM   #56 
  - +1111111111111  peace frog   Jan-17-10 04:27 AM   #78 
  - +1  Canuckistanian   Jan-17-10 06:58 AM   #94 
  - Bingo!  Stumbler   Jan-17-10 08:23 AM   #102 
  - That is well-put, sir. N/T  Betty Karlson   Jan-17-10 02:11 PM   #177 
  - So what you're saying...  Chulanowa   Jan-17-10 07:01 PM   #253 
  - +1. You nailed it.  shadesofgray   Jan-17-10 01:44 PM   #169 
  - CANDO nails it.  Jax   Jan-17-10 01:45 PM   #170 
  - Whoops... they're loosing the gays, too.  dencol   Jan-17-10 02:49 PM   #180 
  - You said it perfectly...  BrklynLiberal   Jan-17-10 01:56 PM   #173 
  - It is incredible but anyone with half a brain could have seen it coming.  truedelphi   Jan-17-10 05:00 PM   #238 
  - +1..yep, unfortunately..nt  xiamiam   Jan-18-10 07:12 AM   #287 
  - Well, some of us tried to warn everybody during the primaries & we were jumped on. nt  earth mom   Jan-18-10 01:36 PM   #300 
     - I was cautiously optimistic.  CANDO   Jan-18-10 05:47 PM   #305 
  - This OP is not about Massachusetts politics. It is about the national strategy.  robinlynne   Jan-16-10 08:28 PM   #16 
  - Dean ran the Party well for four amazing years.  David Zephyr   Jan-16-10 09:45 PM   #43 
  - He sure did. He should be in Rahm's place. Or at least in charge of the health care bill.  robinlynne   Jan-16-10 10:57 PM   #54 
  - indeed  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 06:29 AM   #91 
  - Appears that the DLC strategy is to take the left for granted and to woo the new DINO's.  rhett o rick   Jan-17-10 12:52 PM   #162 
     - The DINOs ARE moving Republicans into the Democratic tent.  bvar22   Jan-17-10 03:33 PM   #205 
     - Glad to know I'm not the only one thinking this.  PFunk   Jan-17-10 10:15 PM   #268 
  - That rather begs the question of why any extraordinary effort should be needed in MA, doesn't it?  bread_and_roses   Jan-17-10 07:10 AM   #98 
  - +1  leeroysphitz   Jan-17-10 08:53 AM   #114 
  - "The Imaginary Center"  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:13 PM   #193 
  - Happy to give an R and K to OP and I have taken to thinking of  bread_and_roses   Jan-17-10 06:19 PM   #249 
  - My home County is very progressive in places,  truedelphi   Jan-17-10 05:09 PM   #241 
  - Right you are  sallyseven   Jan-17-10 09:41 AM   #124 
  - Keyboard commando types know all.  JNelson6563   Jan-17-10 12:46 PM   #161 
  - Is a keyboard commando someone keyboarding without underware? Just sayin. nt  rhett o rick   Jan-18-10 06:00 PM   #307 
     - No, without real life experience. just sayin'. nt  JNelson6563   Jan-19-10 06:31 AM   #311 
  - Well I live here too, and for Tsongas I got out the  ooglymoogly   Jan-17-10 01:42 PM   #168 
  - I certainly hope that Martha Coakley wins as do all liberals in spite of what some may say.  rhett o rick   Jan-18-10 05:59 PM   #306 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-16-10 08:10 PM   #2 
  - OH YEAH! YOUR THIRD-PARTY SPLINTERIST POST GOT >DELETED<!  LoZoccolo   Jan-16-10 08:12 PM   #4 
  - That and five bucks will get you a coffee at Starbucks.  CBHagman   Jan-16-10 08:17 PM   #8 
  - Negative recs HA HA HA HA! n/t  LoZoccolo   Jan-16-10 08:15 PM   #6 
  - Not negative recs. DLOLC.  Luminous Animal   Jan-16-10 08:25 PM   #13 
  - It appears there is a botnet army that gets called in to "rectify" things.  LoZoccolo   Jan-16-10 08:35 PM   #24 
     - I thought you a proponent of the unrec function.  Luminous Animal   Jan-16-10 08:45 PM   #30 
     - Yes, because DU is the best online game EVAR! n/t  LoZoccolo   Jan-16-10 08:52 PM   #33 
     - Is that the Jacinto plan or the Mr. Bacchus plan? nt  Umbral   Jan-17-10 01:08 AM   #62 
     - Your posts get negative recs because more people disagree with the "content" of your post than agree  leeroysphitz   Jan-17-10 08:56 AM   #117 
     - +1  Bobbie Jo   Jan-17-10 10:21 PM   #269 
     - please share..i saw a post this am re afghanistan which had been unrec'd before one response  xiamiam   Jan-18-10 07:21 AM   #288 
  - You're just glad to see someone else get them for a change.  Forkboy   Jan-16-10 10:33 PM   #53 
  - He who laughs first, laughs worst.  burning rain   Jan-17-10 08:31 AM   #105 
  - whoops. n/t  leeroysphitz   Jan-17-10 08:54 AM   #116 
  - Not anymore. The thread has ended at net 279 positive recs. (NT)  Tesha   Jan-17-10 08:24 PM   #262 
  - I agree with this 100%. but I gotta go vote for coakley on tues.  boston bean   Jan-16-10 08:16 PM   #7 
  - boston bean  JustAnotherGen   Jan-16-10 08:20 PM   #10 
  - Make that two...  skids   Jan-16-10 08:43 PM   #27 
     - Ahhhh  JustAnotherGen   Jan-16-10 09:03 PM   #37 
     - I was wondering about the college kids too  karynnj   Jan-16-10 09:20 PM   #42 
  - And I hope you take others to vote for Coakley.  David Zephyr   Jan-16-10 08:22 PM   #11 
  - I know you were not advocating sitting back and watching the barn burn  boston bean   Jan-16-10 08:36 PM   #25 
     - You are the real deal.  David Zephyr   Jan-16-10 08:44 PM   #28 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-16-10 10:18 PM   #49 
     - Boston bean- I feel the same as you, but please don't sit this out  Tailormyst   Jan-18-10 11:29 AM   #298 
  - yes. and yes.  robinlynne   Jan-16-10 08:29 PM   #17 
  - My sediments exactly, and I'm way over on the left coast  eridani   Jan-16-10 09:12 PM   #41 
  - K&R from a Massachusetts resident and Coakley supporter.  Zenlitened   Jan-16-10 08:26 PM   #15 
  - I like your post and spirit, Zenlitened.  David Zephyr   Jan-16-10 08:30 PM   #18 
  - I think between now and November a lot can happen...  Zenlitened   Jan-16-10 08:45 PM   #29 
     - 'Before we celebrate Obama's brave efforts to claw back the gains made on  Joe Chi Minh   Jan-17-10 06:23 AM   #87 
     - It's a truism, isn't it, that a bad Dem is always going to be better than  Joe Chi Minh   Jan-17-10 12:29 PM   #155 
     - If they lose to the Repug, the message will immediately be "Oh, we need to move farther to the right  NorthCarolina   Jan-17-10 07:40 PM   #259 
  - What is it with this attitude  treestar   Jan-16-10 10:27 PM   #51 
  - You really missed the point of the OP  Bluenorthwest   Jan-17-10 07:41 AM   #99 
  - +1  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:16 PM   #196 
  - Well said  snagglepuss   Jan-18-10 01:32 AM   #279 
  - +1. well said.  inna   Jan-18-10 01:40 PM   #301 
  - Another artless attempt at reframing.  Zenlitened   Jan-17-10 03:19 PM   #197 
  - Bravo! (From another Mass res and (tepid) Coakley supporter  lukasahero   Jan-17-10 11:46 PM   #273 
  - Isn't it odd that leftist democrats are simultaneously irrelevant and all important?  anonymous171   Jan-16-10 08:33 PM   #22 
  - It's a political "catch-and-release" program: they use us during elections and throw us back after  Nikki Stone1   Jan-16-10 08:34 PM   #23 
  - Exactly. Come Wednesday, we'll be irrelevant once again. Just like all of 2009.  change_notfinetuning   Jan-17-10 06:03 AM   #83 
  - Political reality. A politician kisses your ass before the election...  spin   Jan-16-10 08:36 PM   #26 
  - More like political suicide...!  grahamhgreen   Jan-17-10 01:20 AM   #66 
  - your uncle sounds like a very smart man.  dana_b   Jan-17-10 12:20 PM   #151 
  - He's dead now. I really miss talking politics with him. (n/t)  spin   Jan-17-10 12:30 PM   #156 
  - Kennedy didn't do that n/t  janet118   Jan-17-10 03:33 PM   #204 
     - Ted was a truly great Democrat ...  spin   Jan-17-10 04:49 PM   #234 
        - I would have liked to hear his take on it . . .  janet118   Jan-17-10 06:08 PM   #246 
  - Delighted to UnRec this. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Jan-16-10 08:46 PM   #32 
  - No reason given? No debate? How stupid.  Bluebear   Jan-16-10 09:49 PM   #44 
  - And my rec right back at ya.  timeforpeace   Jan-16-10 08:55 PM   #35 
  - K&R  highplainsdem   Jan-16-10 09:00 PM   #36 
  - K&R.  Vidar   Jan-16-10 09:07 PM   #40 
  - If i could still vote in MA, I'd be there early and often for Coakley.  freddie mertz   Jan-16-10 09:50 PM   #46 
  - "Not the ticket for victory."  David Zephyr   Jan-16-10 10:12 PM   #48 
  - "Where in the hell are all those independents and moderate voters" So  ProSense   Jan-16-10 09:55 PM   #47 
  - I'm still stunned at how they are the only ones that matter  treestar   Jan-16-10 10:31 PM   #52 
     - Name one thing the "progressive" wing of the party has gotten from Congress/Obama in the last year  rockymountaindem   Jan-17-10 12:50 AM   #60 
     - so wrong  dana_b   Jan-17-10 12:26 PM   #153 
     - No the point is  lolly   Jan-17-10 07:15 PM   #255 
        - That was the point indeed.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 09:44 PM   #266 
  - Damn, David !  kentuck   Jan-16-10 11:43 PM   #57 
  - +1~ NAILED it.  patrice   Jan-17-10 01:17 PM   #166 
  - K&R n/t  IndianaGreen   Jan-17-10 12:00 AM   #58 
  - K and R.....The "independents & moderates" are just as pissed at the corprocrats as the "left" is...  Faryn Balyncd   Jan-17-10 12:42 AM   #59 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-10 12:58 AM   #61 
  - Wow. Ignore list for you.  salguine   Jan-17-10 01:10 AM   #63 
  - K & R nt  Raine   Jan-17-10 01:15 AM   #64 
  - This is the BEST POST EVER ON DU. Hands down. Bar none. Thank you!  grahamhgreen   Jan-17-10 01:18 AM   #65 
  - 70!  Divine Discontent   Jan-17-10 01:43 AM   #67 
  - One Ironic Thing...  The Green Manalishi   Jan-17-10 01:46 AM   #68 
  - how is it that you already know the results of the election?  spanone   Jan-17-10 01:49 AM   #69 
  - Where have I said I did?  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:28 PM   #201 
  - Guess what....  sendero   Jan-17-10 08:48 PM   #264 
  - Ah, yes...Obama's "read My Lips" moments in health care reform,  emsimon33   Jan-17-10 01:50 AM   #70 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Jan-17-10 01:50 AM   #71 
  - K and R  Kalun D   Jan-17-10 02:13 AM   #73 
  - Yet another lesson thread  dave29   Jan-17-10 02:20 AM   #74 
  - Right, absolutely no reason for anyone to be stressed. Sure did show him.  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 06:02 AM   #82 
  - sorry just "tired" of all the armchair quarterbacking. n/t  dave29   Jan-17-10 09:23 AM   #120 
     - All right, I can understand frustration  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 09:30 AM   #122 
  - And, by comparison, your reply contains exactly what meaningful content? (NT)  Tesha   Jan-18-10 06:01 AM   #285 
  - Good one! k*r  autorank   Jan-17-10 02:34 AM   #75 
  - To my amateur eye...  Alias Dictus Tyrant   Jan-17-10 03:00 AM   #76 
  - Your last statement might get hammered but I agree with the sentiment.  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 05:44 AM   #81 
  - Welcome to the DU.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:32 PM   #203 
     - nor cal here as well...general disgust for being played..from many and diverse  xiamiam   Jan-18-10 07:36 AM   #289 
  - k & r  Starry Messenger   Jan-17-10 03:21 AM   #77 
  - Mass.  Clark D   Jan-17-10 04:44 AM   #79 
  - Your first post! Welcome to the DU, Clark D.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:33 PM   #206 
  - Righteous rant. Much sorrow, it will fall on deaf ears.  Mithreal   Jan-17-10 05:32 AM   #80 
  - The dems will take the exact wrong message from MA  Juche   Jan-17-10 06:24 AM   #89 
  - That's what I'm worried about, too.  tango-tee   Jan-17-10 07:50 AM   #100 
  - Sadly, I agree with you.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:36 PM   #207 
  - It's the same lesson..  DisgustedInMN   Jan-17-10 06:28 AM   #90 
  - If FDR had similarly betrayed his promises to the American Left, we'd all be writing in German  leveymg   Jan-17-10 06:31 AM   #92 
  - The American Left kept us from writing in German...really?  suzie   Jan-17-10 09:33 AM   #123 
  - Exactly! "If FDR had betrayed his promises..."..  truth2power   Jan-17-10 10:51 AM   #131 
  - Word!  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:41 PM   #208 
  - Well said. This post should be a separate thread.  snagglepuss   Jan-18-10 01:44 AM   #281 
  - Spot on. Great post/ nt  snagglepuss   Jan-18-10 01:42 AM   #280 
  - Recommended.  H2O Man   Jan-17-10 07:00 AM   #95 
  - Thanks.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:45 PM   #210 
  - K&R  invictus   Jan-17-10 07:00 AM   #96 
  - Forgive them lord  KrazyinKS   Jan-17-10 07:07 AM   #97 
     - A bitter quandary  saorsa   Jan-17-10 03:16 PM   #195 
        - Well said.  snagglepuss   Jan-18-10 01:47 AM   #282 
  - You're full of it. Is is about LOCAL dynamics and the recession. More negative hyperbole on your  RBInMaine   Jan-17-10 08:20 AM   #101 
  - All we can do..  WyldRogue   Jan-17-10 08:36 AM   #108 
  - Local dynamics are extremely important. Issues less so nt  cadmium   Jan-17-10 04:47 PM   #233 
  - What I've heard...  WyldRogue   Jan-17-10 08:34 AM   #106 
  - I heard the same thing on limbaugh's show. nt  AnotherMother4Peace   Jan-17-10 11:36 AM   #138 
     - Funny how that is. n/t  Cary   Jan-17-10 06:11 PM   #247 
  - I don't think we've established just how irrelevant we are yet. I think we remain "irrelevant"  hulka38   Jan-17-10 08:36 AM   #109 
  - A comment pregnant with truth.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:48 PM   #211 
  - One of the best told you so / fuck you rants I've read in a while. Thanks David. n/t  leeroysphitz   Jan-17-10 08:41 AM   #110 
  - Big K & R !!!  WillyT   Jan-17-10 08:49 AM   #113 
  - I agree with you 100%, David  Joe Bacon   Jan-17-10 09:48 AM   #125 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-10 10:48 AM   #128 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-17-10 10:51 AM   #130 
  - The OP is not advocating that we vote for Brown.  totodeinhere   Jan-17-10 03:16 PM   #194 
     - Thanks, totodeinhere.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:55 PM   #213 
  - Thank you so much for posting this.  Tailormyst   Jan-17-10 10:50 AM   #129 
  - Thanks David. I couldn't agree more. Especially with this..  truth2power   Jan-17-10 10:56 AM   #132 
  - The fact that it's a strawman argument won't stop you from basking in the hate  HughMoran   Jan-17-10 12:03 PM   #147 
     - My my! "basking in the hate" Let me help you out here...  truth2power   Jan-17-10 02:03 PM   #175 
        - Molly Ivins!  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 03:57 PM   #214 
           - Another progressive whiner who never really understood politics  jgraz   Jan-17-10 06:58 PM   #251 
  - paging william pitt...paging william pitt...nt  tomp   Jan-17-10 11:24 AM   #134 
  - Great post.  Vinca   Jan-17-10 11:33 AM   #136 
  - David... Been With You Before & Am With You Now! I Surely DON'T Want This To  ChiciB1   Jan-17-10 11:34 AM   #137 
  - Well said.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 04:05 PM   #215 
  - Who could have predicted that...  bvar22   Jan-17-10 11:56 AM   #144 
  - The DLC (including Obama) actually supported Lieberman over Lamont.  Tesha   Jan-18-10 06:15 AM   #286 
  - K&R! n/t  Kermitt Gribble   Jan-17-10 12:03 PM   #146 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-17-10 12:13 PM   #149 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-10 12:23 PM   #152 
  - this whole thing reminds me of Animal Farm  dana_b   Jan-17-10 12:31 PM   #157 
  - Reminds me of a chainletter  abelenkpe   Jan-17-10 02:22 PM   #178 
  - six of one  trudyjh   Jan-17-10 12:46 PM   #160 
  - Welcome to the DU.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 04:17 PM   #216 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-18-10 07:43 AM   #291 
  - BRAVO!!! WELL SAID SIR! +1!  ddeclue   Jan-17-10 01:10 PM   #164 
  - Memo to the DLC: Throwing some of the Dem bases under the bus in order to cater to conservatives....  liberation   Jan-17-10 01:12 PM   #165 
  - So what's your point?  omega minimo   Jan-17-10 01:27 PM   #167 
  - Yes- I believe new dems are very much like early neo-cons  scentopine   Jan-17-10 01:53 PM   #172 
  - It's a continuum of behavior with different labels on the same characters,  omega minimo   Jan-17-10 02:03 PM   #176 
  - absolutely worth considering.  nightrain   Jan-17-10 02:57 PM   #185 
  - Since Reagan.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 04:29 PM   #223 
  - Website showing all Brown's LIES.  SoapBox   Jan-17-10 01:48 PM   #171 
  - I had to stop donating to the DSCC...  bvar22   Jan-17-10 03:48 PM   #212 
     - They don't get my money anymore. Only individual candidates.  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 04:30 PM   #226 
  - K&R  BrklynLiberal   Jan-17-10 01:57 PM   #174 
  - You would have thought that the DNC would have learned from Virginia's recent Governor's Race.  ShortnFiery   Jan-17-10 02:47 PM   #179 
  - Early Nomination For Thread Of The Year!  Dinger   Jan-17-10 02:49 PM   #181 
  - Actually, it's a toss up between this and  ProSense   Jan-17-10 02:51 PM   #182 
  - President Obama is not conservative enough, thats why.  Kokonoe   Jan-17-10 02:58 PM   #187 
  - Terrific post . . . but must say this is rather a plan to destroy the Dem Party ....  defendandprotect   Jan-17-10 03:03 PM   #188 
  - Thanks for that brilliant analysis. I agree with you 100%. n/t  totodeinhere   Jan-17-10 03:13 PM   #192 
  - Recommend wholeheartedly  PuraVidaDreamin   Jan-17-10 03:25 PM   #200 
  - On one hand we feel  undergroundnomore   Jan-17-10 03:30 PM   #202 
  - Scared Dem  Scared Dem   Jan-17-10 03:45 PM   #209 
  - The indys and moderates seem to be going Republican.  Kaleva   Jan-17-10 04:19 PM   #217 
  - It's not about the voters. It's about big biz, as usual. nt  valerief   Jan-17-10 04:20 PM   #218 
  - are now suddenly dialing 911 to the Left begging us to save their asses?  orbitalman   Jan-17-10 04:23 PM   #219 
  - Did he really use the word "irrelevant" ? n/t  adamuu   Jan-17-10 04:34 PM   #228 
  - "Insane" was another term from the White House about Howard Dean  David Zephyr   Jan-17-10 05:02 PM   #239 
  - Rec #240  RetroLounge   Jan-17-10 04:40 PM   #230 
  - As always; the Left loses by running from it's base while the Right wins embracing theirs  Lorien   Jan-17-10 04:47 PM   #232 
  - Stick a Sock In It  BeatleBoot   Jan-17-10 04:49 PM   #235 
  - David isn't the one pissing on us and telling us it is raining  Skittles   Jan-18-10 02:16 AM   #284 
     - No Democrat has ever pissed on me.  BeatleBoot   Jan-18-10 06:03 PM   #309 
  - Very, very astute observation. Happy to K&R, in the 'hope' that  closeupready   Jan-17-10 04:50 PM   #236 
  - To clearly udnerstand the dynamics ofTwo Party America in the  truedelphi   Jan-17-10 04:55 PM   #237 
  - When you're right, you're right. Toss us out, demean us, until election time.  bobbolink   Jan-17-10 05:05 PM   #240 
  - You are correct, sir....entirely right on.  whathehell   Jan-17-10 05:50 PM   #245 
  - Every once in a while, someone posts *exactly* what I'm thinking  jgraz   Jan-17-10 06:52 PM   #250 
  - You are just too mean.  Jakes Progress   Jan-17-10 07:29 PM   #257 
  - If Coakley Loses, Obama and Emanual will have NOBODY but themselves to blame.  Krashkopf   Jan-17-10 07:33 PM   #258 
  - I will blame you.  Cary   Jan-17-10 08:45 PM   #263 
     - That would be just like you, Rahm.  Krashkopf   Jan-18-10 07:53 AM   #293 
        - Right or wrong Rahm has put his ass on the line and is working to get things done  Cary   Jan-18-10 10:15 AM   #295 
           - Right or Wrong???!!!!  bvar22   Jan-18-10 11:24 AM   #297 
           - I am not as arrogant as you. I have an opinion.  Cary   Jan-18-10 01:27 PM   #299 
              - Wow....just wow.  bvar22   Jan-18-10 02:44 PM   #303 
           - Do you think posts like this help the Democratic unity? nt  rhett o rick   Jan-18-10 02:14 PM   #302 
  - The worst part of all this is the huge loss that will occur.  Vermontgrown   Jan-17-10 08:10 PM   #260 
  - Kick  democracy1st   Jan-17-10 08:15 PM   #261 
  - "There's a lesson here: You don't shit all over people who work for you"  TexasObserver   Jan-17-10 09:21 PM   #265 
  - Nailed what's happening in MA big time this post. Bravo.  PFunk   Jan-17-10 10:01 PM   #267 
  - a big, fat, wonderful kick....great post!!....n/t  unkachuck   Jan-17-10 10:29 PM   #270 
  - Erik the Hun will be voting Dem, now that he's walked into the light,  Unrepentant Fenian   Jan-17-10 11:17 PM   #271 
  - Ok, too late to rec so I am doing it here and I only read the first sentence  usregimechange   Jan-17-10 11:52 PM   #274 
  - K&R  New Dawn   Jan-17-10 11:55 PM   #275 
  - Well put! Thanks. I hope someone in the White House is reading posts like this.  suede1   Jan-18-10 12:16 AM   #276 
  - Right on!  Kall   Jan-18-10 12:30 AM   #277 
  - K & R nt  snagglepuss   Jan-18-10 01:10 AM   #278 
  - Kick  democracy1st   Jan-18-10 02:06 AM   #283 
  - Spot on!  Ganja Ninja   Jan-18-10 07:39 AM   #290 
  - Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-18-10 07:44 AM   #292 
  - Awesome OP! Sorry I'm too late to rec!  earth mom   Jan-18-10 08:51 AM   #294 
  - I agree. So what do we do from here? nt  rhett o rick   Jan-18-10 05:44 PM   #304 
  - Yep, and I can roll that up into a generalized misunderstanding of 'the game' itself...  bridgit   Jan-18-10 06:55 PM   #310 
 

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