KittyWampus
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Sat Jan-16-10 12:45 PM
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| 10. It is literally impossible that ALL people would patient and cooperative. It's an absolute given |
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that SOME people would muscle their way to the front and grab all they can.
People are people.
Desperate people are desperate people.
In every group of people there are always going to be the aggressive and abusive reptiles.
In a disaster, the 'reptile quotient" rises because people are in survival mode which is literally what our reptilian brain is geared for.
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| -Isn't it an insult to assume people will riot if we give them supplies? |
happy_liberal |
Jan-16-10 12:30 PM |
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you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. |
spanone |
Jan-16-10 12:32 PM |
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Exactly, you are right particularly since the Haitians up until now have |
Cleita |
Jan-16-10 12:36 PM |
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Just rain packets of trail mix and gatorade on them |
Uzybone |
Jan-16-10 12:37 PM |
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The people running around with guns and machetes are just there to keep the peace |
Hugabear |
Jan-16-10 12:38 PM |
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there are armed gangs in every major city in the world. so what? |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-16-10 01:11 PM |
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If what happened in Haiti were to happen in any major city, you'd have the same results |
Hugabear |
Jan-16-10 01:20 PM |
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It is an insult |
BeFree |
Jan-16-10 12:39 PM |
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Is it insulting to be human? |
blondeatlast |
Jan-16-10 12:40 PM |
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Desperate people do desperate things. |
Catshrink |
Jan-16-10 12:41 PM |
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No it is not... it is in the disaster managers handbook |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-16-10 12:41 PM |
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I have to disagree with you on this one because much of |
Cleita |
Jan-16-10 12:44 PM |
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You can disagree, but zone security IS in the handbook |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-16-10 12:48 PM |
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Cleita, I usually don't argue with you, but the Haitians are already pretty agitated. nt |
Hekate |
Jan-16-10 01:02 PM |
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It seems they have started to hand out aid. |
Cleita |
Jan-16-10 01:35 PM |
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This means the security that they needed is there already |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-16-10 01:37 PM |
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This is good news. nt |
TeeYiYi |
Jan-16-10 01:54 PM |
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Nadinbrzezinski, bear with me on this question... |
TeeYiYi |
Jan-16-10 12:49 PM |
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The US military is under orders not to use force. |
Catshrink |
Jan-16-10 12:50 PM |
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I know they are |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-16-10 12:53 PM |
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If they shoot them in self defense perhaps |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-16-10 12:52 PM |
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Oh |
BeFree |
Jan-16-10 12:55 PM |
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Yes. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jan-16-10 01:47 PM |
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DUers would riot and break their keyboards if a US Marine fired on a crowd. |
Hekate |
Jan-16-10 12:52 PM |
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...made me laugh! |
TeeYiYi |
Jan-16-10 12:59 PM |
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+1 nt |
laughingliberal |
Jan-16-10 01:21 PM |
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from experience that only works on limited numbers, now what happens in reality is |
vadawg |
Jan-16-10 06:33 PM |
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It is literally impossible that ALL people would patient and cooperative. It's an absolute given |
KittyWampus |
Jan-16-10 12:45 PM |
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It is, |
Individualist |
Jan-16-10 12:50 PM |
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I see |
Hugabear |
Jan-16-10 01:05 PM |
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I would say the same thing about England, or Australia, or the |
pipi_k |
Jan-16-10 12:52 PM |
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Considering there are reliable reports of fuel merchants keeping pumps off while prices rise... |
havocmom |
Jan-16-10 12:53 PM |
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So they manage to drop water and food into Port-au-Princein the next moment. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-16-10 12:55 PM |
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You were attacked |
BeFree |
Jan-16-10 12:58 PM |
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I don't think desperate people would make the distinction. |
Catshrink |
Jan-16-10 01:00 PM |
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No, einstein, I ATTCKED my father while he was trying to help. I was delirious. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-16-10 01:02 PM |
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Ooops, my bad |
BeFree |
Jan-16-10 01:05 PM |
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Yes, I have this all figured out but no, you should NOT STFU. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-16-10 01:08 PM |
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Now I am stupid? |
BeFree |
Jan-16-10 01:38 PM |
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If you want the very best for the Haitians, you wouldn't be suggesting we cause harm to |
blondeatlast |
Jan-16-10 01:44 PM |
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Where? |
BeFree |
Jan-16-10 01:53 PM |
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Yeah, people without food/water for a number of days WILL attack |
pipi_k |
Jan-16-10 01:14 PM |
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excellent article, pipi_k. Thanks for posting the link. I just enjoyed a cup of water. |
bertman |
Jan-16-10 02:04 PM |
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Okay drop a box of iPods into a crowd waiting outside a Walmart just before Their Xmas Door-Busters |
KittyWampus |
Jan-16-10 01:05 PM |
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Over & over & over in my lifetime I have seen news footage of RIOTS to get food & water in famine & |
Hekate |
Jan-16-10 12:59 PM |
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and your second point HAPPENED yesterday |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-16-10 01:02 PM |
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upthread someone mentioned the crowds in America at Walmarts for their Christmas DoorBusters |
KittyWampus |
Jan-16-10 01:07 PM |
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That's a good, understandable analogy. But it will blow right past the |
blondeatlast |
Jan-16-10 01:09 PM |
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+1 nt |
laughingliberal |
Jan-16-10 01:20 PM |
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All points well taken... |
TeeYiYi |
Jan-16-10 01:15 PM |
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The point is--they COULDN'T be. Haiti There was virtually no infrastructure on MONDAY. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-16-10 01:17 PM |
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If you could predict these things well in advance, then yes there might be |
Hugabear |
Jan-16-10 01:25 PM |
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Responding in a timely manner is one thing... |
TeeYiYi |
Jan-16-10 01:46 PM |
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This is physical time |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-16-10 01:50 PM |
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I think the response to Haiti... |
TeeYiYi |
Jan-16-10 02:12 PM |
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Here is some info on the emergency role of various government agencies (including military) |
Hekate |
Jan-16-10 02:01 PM |
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Direct Relief had medical supplies ALREADY there, but on a boat in the harbor... |
Hekate |
Jan-16-10 02:09 PM |
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Thanks Hekate... |
TeeYiYi |
Jan-16-10 02:20 PM |
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First response in a disaster... |
pipi_k |
Jan-16-10 01:48 PM |
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"The mobs might not be so panicky if basic supplies had been delivered sooner. " |
happy_liberal |
Jan-16-10 05:41 PM |
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And how in the hell was that supposed to happen |
Catshrink |
Jan-16-10 05:57 PM |
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air drops- you remember people saying it couldn't be done? |
happy_liberal |
Jan-16-10 06:03 PM |
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But they need to get the supplies that will be airdropped to Haiti. |
Catshrink |
Jan-16-10 06:25 PM |
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Drop what? Good feelings.. |
Pavulon |
Jan-16-10 06:29 PM |
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Jan-16-10 01:00 PM |
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No, it is the reality of human nature, |
MadHound |
Jan-16-10 01:02 PM |
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No, it's not. nt |
piedmont |
Jan-16-10 01:03 PM |
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Yeah, it is an insult. |
tonysam |
Jan-16-10 01:04 PM |
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Is it naive to think that people will put aside human nature, and work together in peace and harmony |
Hugabear |
Jan-16-10 01:10 PM |
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They can't if they are delirious from hunger and thirst. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-16-10 01:21 PM |
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That's 100% correct |
laughingliberal |
Jan-16-10 01:26 PM |
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Some people don't want to admit that |
Hugabear |
Jan-16-10 01:27 PM |
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There's more than one thing going on here so yes it is and no, it's not. |
EFerrari |
Jan-16-10 01:09 PM |
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Have you never seen video footage of people trampling over one |
Obamanaut |
Jan-16-10 01:21 PM |
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Survival mode is a very complex and complicated thing |
lunatica |
Jan-16-10 01:41 PM |
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Maslow... |
Catshrink |
Jan-16-10 01:43 PM |
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Interesting. I googled Maslow and got this graphic |
lunatica |
Jan-16-10 01:50 PM |
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It's important in education... |
Catshrink |
Jan-16-10 01:54 PM |
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Well if you JUST SAW the not so surprising VIDEO RIGHT NOW |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-16-10 01:44 PM |
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Isnt it naive to think that starving/injured/thirsty people will wait in nice ordely lines? |
votingupstart |
Jan-16-10 01:57 PM |
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This OP is so ridiculous that I'm not even going to respond to it. Oh wait . . . |
bertman |
Jan-16-10 02:09 PM |
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its human nature |
qazplm |
Jan-16-10 02:15 PM |
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Tell ya what: you go over there with a box full of food, walk into the city alone &report back. |
Hekate |
Jan-16-10 02:49 PM |
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So they are doing air drops now, and the Haitians are waiting patiently for water? |
happy_liberal |
Jan-16-10 03:54 PM |
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That's the right wing fear mongering way of thinking. |
Xenotime |
Jan-16-10 03:57 PM |
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Moon water. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Jan-16-10 05:54 PM |
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It's not the people who you give food to who riot, it's the people who think that you're going to... |
JVS |
Jan-16-10 06:34 PM |
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