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MSchreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 12:38 PM
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49. Honestly, I didn't expect much of anything
But that's because I actually read his platform before the election.

"Was it not enough of a change that for the first time in history, we have elected a black President. That, in itself, is historic change."

Yes, it was "historic change", but it's not enough. Americans are suckers for making history, in spite of all of the social backwardness that swirls around us. In a sense, some of the Republican strategists knew this, too. That's why they went along with Palin; Black man or white woman -- either way was "historic".

"After eight years of the most criminal and incompetent Administration in our memory, why would anyone think there would be massive changes? The War on Terror? Still going strong. The screwing of the American people by the Big Banks? Making more money than ever. Regulations restored? Nope, everything still the same. Healthcare reform? It changed to health insurance reform after the election."

Greater changes have happened at faster paces in U.S. and world history. I'm sorry, but the Bush regime cannot be used as an excuse when the Democrats control both houses of Congress and the White House. And if the Dems are worried about a filibuster, then amend Rule 22 of the Senate back to pre-1975 language (with one exception: reduce the number needed for cloture to 55) so that if they want to grandstand, they'll have to drag out the cots and spend all their time there reading out of the phonebook or something.

"So why none of the changes people expected? Is it primarily because the economy collapsed and none of these changes are now possible? After all, it is not possible to raise taxes during such a severe recession and downturn. We don't want to make the big banks angry or they will stop lending money altogether. True, but the most important issue is jobs and we have to be very careful not to make it more difficult to find a job."

Oh, heaven forbid we upset the banks! We'll just keep bribing them a trillion dollars at a time until they're fat and happy ... and the rest of us are eating mites. And the banks really aren't "lending money" at all. That's the ongoing problem; the credit system is still more or less frozen, and the banks are using the bribes they received to buy up competitors and create monopolies. Next on the agenda appears to be PNC buying up National City (if it hasn't been done already).

"It is simply not possible to have the change you expected. The President wants to be like Abraham Lincoln. He wants to unite the country. He doesn't believe that the Republicans hate his guts."

By that logic, we'll have to wait to see the big changes until after the Republicans try to secede from the U.S. and begin a shooting war. Personally, I'd prefer a little "pre-emption" in this case, given the alternative.
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  -The Angry Left. kentuck  Jan-16-10 11:07 AM   #0 
  - I expected Obama not to bend over backwards for the insurance companies.  Odin2005   Jan-16-10 11:09 AM   #1 
  - Actually, I think he's bending over frontwards  jgraz   Jan-16-10 01:20 PM   #51 
     - +1...  votingupstart   Jan-17-10 02:59 PM   #60 
  - Capitulation =/= Compromise. Obama is acting like Buchanan, not Lincoln. nt  anonymous171   Jan-16-10 11:11 AM   #2 
  - James? or Pat?  jgraz   Jan-16-10 01:21 PM   #52 
     - James, lol. nt  anonymous171   Jan-16-10 02:01 PM   #54 
  - He doesn't believe that the Republicans hate his guts.  DJ13   Jan-16-10 11:12 AM   #3 
  - Agreed.  Laelth   Jan-16-10 12:41 PM   #50 
  - I'm not angry.  Zoeisright   Jan-16-10 11:12 AM   #4 
  - Exactly how I feel. I'm tired of the excuses.  Luciferous   Jan-16-10 11:16 AM   #8 
  - I expected them not to help the banks loot the Treasury  notesdev   Jan-16-10 11:12 AM   #5 
  - come November, the DLC dems will see the change they didnt expect  Mari333   Jan-16-10 11:13 AM   #6 
  - Yeah, I have a feeling they are in for a rude awakening.  Luciferous   Jan-16-10 11:16 AM   #9 
  - Will seeing the gopers take over make you happy?  jaxx   Jan-16-10 11:20 AM   #11 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-16-10 11:24 AM   #17 
     - In there is the center-left President we elected.  jaxx   Jan-16-10 11:52 AM   #38 
     - No. Which is why I am trying to fights against the losing DLC strategy.  freddie mertz   Jan-16-10 11:27 AM   #21 
     - The country is centrist. /nt  still_one   Jan-16-10 11:37 AM   #24 
        - The country is whatever you tell it to be.  anonymous171   Jan-16-10 11:40 AM   #30 
        - It is all in the eyes of the beholder. Viet Nam and the Bay of Pigs were major blunders /nt  still_one   Jan-16-10 11:44 AM   #35 
           - It is. For example. Ronald Reagan was not the "most popular president ever"  anonymous171   Jan-16-10 11:53 AM   #39 
        - Then why did they vote for "change"?  freddie mertz   Jan-16-10 11:40 AM   #31 
           - Because the bush administration went too far right /nt  still_one   Jan-16-10 11:44 AM   #36 
              - I think there was more too it than that label.  freddie mertz   Jan-16-10 02:49 PM   #56 
     - For some I actually think it would make them happy, believing that the country would be so unhappy  still_one   Jan-16-10 11:34 AM   #23 
     - It won't make anybody happy but the republicans...  PassingFair   Jan-16-10 11:56 AM   #43 
  - Replacing the politicized US Attorneys would be a start.  OnyxCollie   Jan-16-10 11:14 AM   #7 
  - This is the object of my greatest dissapointment...  annabanana   Jan-16-10 11:20 AM   #12 
  - And maybe firing all the deadwood in the Wage and Hour Division  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Jan-16-10 11:38 AM   #26 
  - "The President wants to be like Abraham Lincoln."  depakid   Jan-16-10 11:17 AM   #10 
  - Many of us knew that uniting bit was pie in the sky. At least some  OHdem10   Jan-16-10 11:21 AM   #13 
  - THIS THIS THIS. nt  anonymous171   Jan-16-10 11:22 AM   #14 
  - +1  Jamastiene   Jan-16-10 11:37 AM   #25 
  - Not angry. Not impatient, but disillusioned and disappointment at the direction, not pace.  NRaleighLiberal   Jan-16-10 11:24 AM   #15 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-16-10 11:24 AM   #16 
  - Mandates are not progress.  anonymous171   Jan-16-10 11:26 AM   #19 
  - The complacent, defeatist center. It is losing us elections.  freddie mertz   Jan-16-10 11:26 AM   #18 
  - WTF dude?  branders seine   Jan-16-10 11:27 AM   #20 
  - Not to worry. America doesn't have a Left.  DerekG   Jan-16-10 11:32 AM   #22 
  - There is a left and a right, but the country on the whole, is centrist. Your impression I don't  still_one   Jan-16-10 11:40 AM   #32 
     - Oh, they're not centrist.  DerekG   Jan-16-10 11:54 AM   #40 
  - I didn't expect anything other then he advocate on the side of the people  jonathon   Jan-16-10 11:38 AM   #27 
  - Welcome to DU  jotsy   Jan-16-10 12:13 PM   #47 
  - I was always of the opinion that dens were  xchrom   Jan-16-10 11:39 AM   #28 
  - The thing is, a lot of "Swing voters" are feeling the same way as you.  bobbolink   Jan-17-10 03:05 PM   #63 
  - What's really sad is the huge numbers of people that got involved in politics because of Obama  begin_within   Jan-16-10 11:39 AM   #29 
  - Excellent point.  freddie mertz   Jan-16-10 11:42 AM   #33 
  - You're laying all that on Obama?  jaxx   Jan-16-10 11:56 AM   #44 
     - I think Obama embodied the desire for change.  freddie mertz   Jan-16-10 02:46 PM   #55 
  - Not sad; an object lesson  DerekG   Jan-16-10 11:43 AM   #34 
  - Do any of us herd animals ever question why those who are  Goldstein1984   Jan-16-10 11:49 AM   #37 
  - A chapter in a the book of a nation's history that is under some pressure to be pivotal or see its  jotsy   Jan-16-10 11:54 AM   #41 
  - Here's the really funny part. After the corporate Dems lose the next elections,  Marr   Jan-16-10 11:55 AM   #42 
  - It's becoming routine, isn't it?  Tesha   Jan-16-10 04:04 PM   #57 
  - I honestly thought Obama was better than a politician.  Vinca   Jan-16-10 11:56 AM   #45 
  - I didn't vote for a RACE. n/t  leeroysphitz   Jan-16-10 12:03 PM   #46 
  - the reactionary right are sub human  pretzel4gore   Jan-16-10 12:27 PM   #48 
  - Honestly, I didn't expect much of anything  MSchreader   Jan-16-10 12:38 PM   #49 
  - By your reasoning, maybe we should have elected Michael Steele  jgraz   Jan-16-10 01:22 PM   #53 
  - you betcher!  pretzel4gore   Jan-17-10 02:54 PM   #58 
  - Hey, go ahead and get rid of us.  bobbolink   Jan-17-10 02:55 PM   #59 
     - Gee, then where will these democratic "leaders" get the true WORKERS ...  ShortnFiery   Jan-17-10 02:59 PM   #61 
        - I have been trying to keep track of all this dissing of "leftists", so that come  bobbolink   Jan-17-10 03:04 PM   #62 
           - Both parties are fascist: I don't volunteer but vote for the least corporatist candidate. eom  ShortnFiery   Jan-17-10 03:12 PM   #64 
 

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