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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 07:37 AM
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74. Yes, I know, I live in Canada. Harper doesn't enjoy minority government that much.
He'd much rather have a majority so that he can fuck up Canada completely. Harper is Republican Lite. He is on record as having been ashamed of Canada for not getting involved in the Iraq misadventure.

He has not dismissed Parliament until further notice, though. He "persuaded" the Governor General to prorogue Parliament until 3 March. Though he would not admit it, the reason he did that was so that his government wouldn't have to face the commission (now dissolved) investigating whether the government had ordered prisoners of war turned over to Afghan authorities, where they were subsequently tortured. If they knew these people would be tortured and still turned them over, that would constitute a war crime.

He has to go. Thank goodness his proroguing Parliament has led to Conservative free-fall in the polls.
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  -Haiti as the 51st state. Old and In the Way  Jan-15-10 07:50 PM   #0 
  - Maybe they don't want to be a state. We can't just take somebody else's country.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Jan-15-10 07:52 PM   #1 
  - Gee, I did state that it would have to be a democratic referendum.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 07:54 PM   #6 
     - This whole premise disturbs me. Not just OP's question but some of the arrogant & racist responses  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 08:31 AM   #78 
        - Again I ask, why the only objection people have is "they're too backward" to conquer & assimilate?  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 10:24 AM   #86 
           - Why not make Iraq the 52nd state?  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 10:30 AM   #89 
  - why stop at haiti, why not the DR, or costa rica, or mexico,  vadawg   Jan-15-10 07:52 PM   #2 
  - +1 We can't fix everything for everyone  Luciferous   Jan-15-10 09:29 PM   #61 
  - What would it hurt to offer them the choice?  TheWraith   Jan-15-10 07:53 PM   #3 
  - As well intentioned as this is, I am betting they would say NO  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-15-10 07:53 PM   #4 
  - I'm betting yes.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 07:59 PM   #10 
     - question is they might vote yes, but would the States vote yes  vadawg   Jan-15-10 08:01 PM   #15 
     - Fair question...but I'm asking DUer's what they think.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:05 PM   #16 
     - You underestimate  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-15-10 08:06 PM   #18 
     - Perhaps, but I'll take your response as a no.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:22 PM   #32 
     - It smacks of imperialism.  IntravenousDemilo   Jan-15-10 08:19 PM   #29 
  - We did practically cause their poverty in recent years. We owe them help at the very least.  Jennicut   Jan-15-10 07:54 PM   # 
  - No they are a basket case. Aid and self respect first. Why has PR gone its own way?  sharesunited   Jan-15-10 07:54 PM   #5 
  - It would be the 53rd state, not 51st.  provis99   Jan-15-10 07:54 PM   #7 
  - When did Canada become an American state???  HeresyLives   Jan-15-10 08:00 PM   #11 
  - Canada 51st state? You are such ignorant demented imbecile  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:06 PM   #19 
  - I assume he's joking.  HeresyLives   Jan-15-10 08:11 PM   #21 
  - lol...That was something out off Freeper-World..wasn't it?  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:17 PM   #27 
     - LOL certainly made me choke on my coffee! /nt  HeresyLives   Jan-15-10 08:19 PM   #30 
  - If Stephen Harper had his way, I'm sure that would almost be likely...  IntravenousDemilo   Jan-15-10 08:29 PM   #35 
  - Steven Harper enjoys minority government...he's on a leash  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:42 PM   #44 
     - Yes, I know, I live in Canada. Harper doesn't enjoy minority government that much.  IntravenousDemilo   Jan-16-10 07:37 AM   #74 
  - What he really means is that we support them more than we should.  Xenotime   Jan-16-10 08:45 AM   #79 
  - Sarah Palin couldn't have made a dumber remark.  aquart   Jan-15-10 08:16 PM   #26 
  - Some Canadians have also made that assertion  Canuckistanian   Jan-15-10 08:41 PM   #42 
  - I Thought Puerto Rico Was Next... Or Was It Washington D.C. ???  WillyT   Jan-15-10 07:55 PM   #8 
  - Guam!  virgogal   Jan-15-10 08:38 PM   #39 
  - Have you had a look at Puerto Rico recently  malaise   Jan-15-10 07:55 PM   #9 
  - So, no vote for letting them decide?  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:01 PM   #14 
  - As long as it's a Caribbean island, I can live with Puerto Rico or Haiti. Or Cuber for that matter.  timeforpeace   Jan-15-10 08:00 PM   #12 
  - Haiti is helluva closer than Israel ...so why not 51st state status?  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:00 PM   #13 
  - I know alot of people who want green cards or visas  stray cat   Jan-15-10 08:05 PM   #17 
  - Do we need H1 visa's to move between states?  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:13 PM   #23 
  - BAD  Texasgal   Jan-15-10 08:10 PM   #20 
  - So, no referendum to let them decide, right?  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:15 PM   #25 
  - Maybe..  Texasgal   Jan-15-10 08:19 PM   #31 
  - Interesting point.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:29 PM   #36 
     - I don't have a poll  Texasgal   Jan-15-10 08:37 PM   #38 
     - Well, lets take a poll to see if Native Americans want out of the Union.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:56 PM   #54 
        - we are talking about Hawaii  Texasgal   Jan-15-10 09:04 PM   #56 
        - It would if the Natives had a say....but Hawaii Natives did not have a say...  winyanstaz   Jan-15-10 11:31 PM   #71 
     - 49th?  Neecy   Jan-16-10 10:29 AM   #88 
  - OK, i'll bite  unabelladonna   Jan-15-10 08:42 PM   #45 
  - The idea of 51st is of economic and preferential treatment, that's all.  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:35 PM   #37 
  - This idea has bad news written all over. This is a crisis that we don't want to inherit. nt  LLStarks   Jan-15-10 08:12 PM   #22 
  - How arrogant.  aquart   Jan-15-10 08:15 PM   #24 
  - hehehe  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:19 PM   #28 
  - I would support it -- AND...  Mike Nelson   Jan-15-10 08:22 PM   #33 
  - what would that accomplish  unabelladonna   Jan-15-10 08:25 PM   #34 
  - Well, a lot actually.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:41 PM   #43 
     - okay then what, do we pick another country and make them the 52nd state  vadawg   Jan-15-10 08:50 PM   #48 
     - Don't know..depends on the circumstances.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 09:12 PM   #58 
     - at the risk of being called every name in the book  unabelladonna   Jan-15-10 08:50 PM   #49 
        - Good point....  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 09:38 PM   #63 
  - Your intentions are noble, but naive.  Harry Monroe   Jan-15-10 08:39 PM   #40 
  - True that!  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:46 PM   #47 
     - nothing of the sort, i think the point you seem to be missing is why should they get a vote  vadawg   Jan-15-10 08:54 PM   #53 
     - I need to research the mechanism for bringing new states into the union.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 11:51 PM   #72 
     - A Couple Of Thoughts...  KharmaTrain   Jan-16-10 05:24 PM   #97 
  - Who says the US would want it?  Ter   Jan-15-10 08:39 PM   #41 
  - The British just recently took back Turks and Caicos  HipChick   Jan-15-10 08:42 PM   #46 
  - yup and i seem to remember the feeling on DU was that it was colonialism again  vadawg   Jan-15-10 08:52 PM   #51 
  - Well, Haiti IS flat broke and in horrendous debt  notesdev   Jan-15-10 08:52 PM   #50 
  - I thought Cancun and Punta Cana were the 51st and 52nd states.  kwassa   Jan-15-10 08:53 PM   #52 
  - Only the strategically important nude beaches. nt  Robb   Jan-15-10 09:06 PM   #57 
  - Why?  Truthiness Inspector   Jan-15-10 08:57 PM   #55 
  - Why would the States want to bring them into the Union?  jdp349   Jan-15-10 09:12 PM   #59 
  - It would create jobs in the mainland US  XemaSab   Jan-15-10 09:26 PM   #60 
     - The Federal government would have to pay for it  jdp349   Jan-15-10 09:40 PM   #64 
        - No problem...cut defense spending by 20%  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 11:18 PM   #69 
           - But we know that won't happen  jdp349   Jan-16-10 09:38 AM   #80 
  - OK, so the general consensus here is' 'no fucking way'  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 09:30 PM   #62 
  - No merit whatsoever. Haiti is a free country. And besides, we have  kestrel91316   Jan-15-10 09:43 PM   #65 
  - Ah, but you are speaking for the Haitians when you decide that they don't want  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 11:16 PM   #68 
  - How much do you know about Haitian history, or Haitian feelings toward US intervention?  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 10:33 AM   #91 
  - So Let The Haitians Vote On It  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:23 AM   #84 
  - So Let The Haitians Vote On It  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:23 AM   #85 
  - They want to be their own country.  ddeclue   Jan-15-10 09:47 PM   #66 
  - Hard to argue with that fact.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 11:24 PM   #70 
     - Just every Haitian I've ever met while living in Florida.  ddeclue   Jan-16-10 02:40 PM   #95 
  - And members here wonder why...  -..__...   Jan-15-10 10:18 PM   #67 
  - At the Risk of Being Offensive  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 07:17 AM   #73 
  - Do you believe Haiti was "self governing" in any meaningful sense?  okie   Jan-16-10 07:41 AM   #76 
     - No, I Don't Believe that Haiti Was Self-Governing--And Here's Why  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:16 AM   #82 
        - tough questions  okie   Jan-16-10 07:14 PM   #98 
  - Doesn't work that way.  okie   Jan-16-10 07:39 AM   #75 
  - I would say yes if it meant we'd see...  pipi_k   Jan-16-10 08:12 AM   #77 
  - How about Somalia next?  Imajika   Jan-16-10 09:46 AM   #81 
  - Somalia too culturally dissimilar, so I'd vote no. n/t  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:25 AM   #87 
  - Statehood would be good for Haiti.  Octafish   Jan-16-10 10:20 AM   #83 
  - Think of The 2012 Campaign Opportunities!  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:30 AM   #90 
  - Wal-Mart could force the minimum wage even lower and hire them as employees.  hunter   Jan-16-10 10:35 AM   #92 
  - Referendum Results: "I for one welcome our new US overlords." BTW isn't Banda Aceh the 51st state?  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 10:39 AM   #93 
  - It's an interesting idea...  MellowDem   Jan-16-10 11:36 AM   #94 
  - I wrote a blog advocating this  donritchie   Jan-16-10 05:14 PM   #96 
  - Haitians beat Napoleon's army and threw off slavery to become an INDEPENDENT NATION  Matariki   Jan-16-10 07:36 PM   #99 
 

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