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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:29 PM
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35. If Stephen Harper had his way, I'm sure that would almost be likely...
... but only under Republican administrations.
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  -Haiti as the 51st state. Old and In the Way  Jan-15-10 07:50 PM   #0 
  - Maybe they don't want to be a state. We can't just take somebody else's country.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Jan-15-10 07:52 PM   #1 
  - Gee, I did state that it would have to be a democratic referendum.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 07:54 PM   #6 
     - This whole premise disturbs me. Not just OP's question but some of the arrogant & racist responses  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 08:31 AM   #78 
        - Again I ask, why the only objection people have is "they're too backward" to conquer & assimilate?  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 10:24 AM   #86 
           - Why not make Iraq the 52nd state?  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 10:30 AM   #89 
  - why stop at haiti, why not the DR, or costa rica, or mexico,  vadawg   Jan-15-10 07:52 PM   #2 
  - +1 We can't fix everything for everyone  Luciferous   Jan-15-10 09:29 PM   #61 
  - What would it hurt to offer them the choice?  TheWraith   Jan-15-10 07:53 PM   #3 
  - As well intentioned as this is, I am betting they would say NO  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-15-10 07:53 PM   #4 
  - I'm betting yes.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 07:59 PM   #10 
     - question is they might vote yes, but would the States vote yes  vadawg   Jan-15-10 08:01 PM   #15 
     - Fair question...but I'm asking DUer's what they think.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:05 PM   #16 
     - You underestimate  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-15-10 08:06 PM   #18 
     - Perhaps, but I'll take your response as a no.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:22 PM   #32 
     - It smacks of imperialism.  IntravenousDemilo   Jan-15-10 08:19 PM   #29 
  - We did practically cause their poverty in recent years. We owe them help at the very least.  Jennicut   Jan-15-10 07:54 PM   # 
  - No they are a basket case. Aid and self respect first. Why has PR gone its own way?  sharesunited   Jan-15-10 07:54 PM   #5 
  - It would be the 53rd state, not 51st.  provis99   Jan-15-10 07:54 PM   #7 
  - When did Canada become an American state???  HeresyLives   Jan-15-10 08:00 PM   #11 
  - Canada 51st state? You are such ignorant demented imbecile  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:06 PM   #19 
  - I assume he's joking.  HeresyLives   Jan-15-10 08:11 PM   #21 
  - lol...That was something out off Freeper-World..wasn't it?  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:17 PM   #27 
     - LOL certainly made me choke on my coffee! /nt  HeresyLives   Jan-15-10 08:19 PM   #30 
  - If Stephen Harper had his way, I'm sure that would almost be likely...  IntravenousDemilo   Jan-15-10 08:29 PM   #35 
  - Steven Harper enjoys minority government...he's on a leash  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:42 PM   #44 
     - Yes, I know, I live in Canada. Harper doesn't enjoy minority government that much.  IntravenousDemilo   Jan-16-10 07:37 AM   #74 
  - What he really means is that we support them more than we should.  Xenotime   Jan-16-10 08:45 AM   #79 
  - Sarah Palin couldn't have made a dumber remark.  aquart   Jan-15-10 08:16 PM   #26 
  - Some Canadians have also made that assertion  Canuckistanian   Jan-15-10 08:41 PM   #42 
  - I Thought Puerto Rico Was Next... Or Was It Washington D.C. ???  WillyT   Jan-15-10 07:55 PM   #8 
  - Guam!  virgogal   Jan-15-10 08:38 PM   #39 
  - Have you had a look at Puerto Rico recently  malaise   Jan-15-10 07:55 PM   #9 
  - So, no vote for letting them decide?  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:01 PM   #14 
  - As long as it's a Caribbean island, I can live with Puerto Rico or Haiti. Or Cuber for that matter.  timeforpeace   Jan-15-10 08:00 PM   #12 
  - Haiti is helluva closer than Israel why not 51st state status?  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:00 PM   #13 
  - I know alot of people who want green cards or visas  stray cat   Jan-15-10 08:05 PM   #17 
  - Do we need H1 visa's to move between states?  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:13 PM   #23 
  - BAD  Texasgal   Jan-15-10 08:10 PM   #20 
  - So, no referendum to let them decide, right?  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:15 PM   #25 
  - Maybe..  Texasgal   Jan-15-10 08:19 PM   #31 
  - Interesting point.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:29 PM   #36 
     - I don't have a poll  Texasgal   Jan-15-10 08:37 PM   #38 
     - Well, lets take a poll to see if Native Americans want out of the Union.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:56 PM   #54 
        - we are talking about Hawaii  Texasgal   Jan-15-10 09:04 PM   #56 
        - It would if the Natives had a say....but Hawaii Natives did not have a say...  winyanstaz   Jan-15-10 11:31 PM   #71 
     - 49th?  Neecy   Jan-16-10 10:29 AM   #88 
  - OK, i'll bite  unabelladonna   Jan-15-10 08:42 PM   #45 
  - The idea of 51st is of economic and preferential treatment, that's all.  BunkerHill24   Jan-15-10 08:35 PM   #37 
  - This idea has bad news written all over. This is a crisis that we don't want to inherit. nt  LLStarks   Jan-15-10 08:12 PM   #22 
  - How arrogant.  aquart   Jan-15-10 08:15 PM   #24 
  - hehehe  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:19 PM   #28 
  - I would support it -- AND...  Mike Nelson   Jan-15-10 08:22 PM   #33 
  - what would that accomplish  unabelladonna   Jan-15-10 08:25 PM   #34 
  - Well, a lot actually.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:41 PM   #43 
     - okay then what, do we pick another country and make them the 52nd state  vadawg   Jan-15-10 08:50 PM   #48 
     - Don't know..depends on the circumstances.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 09:12 PM   #58 
     - at the risk of being called every name in the book  unabelladonna   Jan-15-10 08:50 PM   #49 
        - Good point....  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 09:38 PM   #63 
  - Your intentions are noble, but naive.  Harry Monroe   Jan-15-10 08:39 PM   #40 
  - True that!  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 08:46 PM   #47 
     - nothing of the sort, i think the point you seem to be missing is why should they get a vote  vadawg   Jan-15-10 08:54 PM   #53 
     - I need to research the mechanism for bringing new states into the union.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 11:51 PM   #72 
     - A Couple Of Thoughts...  KharmaTrain   Jan-16-10 05:24 PM   #97 
  - Who says the US would want it?  Ter   Jan-15-10 08:39 PM   #41 
  - The British just recently took back Turks and Caicos  HipChick   Jan-15-10 08:42 PM   #46 
  - yup and i seem to remember the feeling on DU was that it was colonialism again  vadawg   Jan-15-10 08:52 PM   #51 
  - Well, Haiti IS flat broke and in horrendous debt  notesdev   Jan-15-10 08:52 PM   #50 
  - I thought Cancun and Punta Cana were the 51st and 52nd states.  kwassa   Jan-15-10 08:53 PM   #52 
  - Only the strategically important nude beaches. nt  Robb   Jan-15-10 09:06 PM   #57 
  - Why?  Truthiness Inspector   Jan-15-10 08:57 PM   #55 
  - Why would the States want to bring them into the Union?  jdp349   Jan-15-10 09:12 PM   #59 
  - It would create jobs in the mainland US  XemaSab   Jan-15-10 09:26 PM   #60 
     - The Federal government would have to pay for it  jdp349   Jan-15-10 09:40 PM   #64 
        - No problem...cut defense spending by 20%  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 11:18 PM   #69 
           - But we know that won't happen  jdp349   Jan-16-10 09:38 AM   #80 
  - OK, so the general consensus here is' 'no fucking way'  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 09:30 PM   #62 
  - No merit whatsoever. Haiti is a free country. And besides, we have  kestrel91316   Jan-15-10 09:43 PM   #65 
  - Ah, but you are speaking for the Haitians when you decide that they don't want  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 11:16 PM   #68 
  - How much do you know about Haitian history, or Haitian feelings toward US intervention?  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 10:33 AM   #91 
  - So Let The Haitians Vote On It  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:23 AM   #84 
  - So Let The Haitians Vote On It  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:23 AM   #85 
  - They want to be their own country.  ddeclue   Jan-15-10 09:47 PM   #66 
  - Hard to argue with that fact.  Old and In the Way   Jan-15-10 11:24 PM   #70 
     - Just every Haitian I've ever met while living in Florida.  ddeclue   Jan-16-10 02:40 PM   #95 
  - And members here wonder why...  -..__...   Jan-15-10 10:18 PM   #67 
  - At the Risk of Being Offensive  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 07:17 AM   #73 
  - Do you believe Haiti was "self governing" in any meaningful sense?  okie   Jan-16-10 07:41 AM   #76 
     - No, I Don't Believe that Haiti Was Self-Governing--And Here's Why  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:16 AM   #82 
        - tough questions  okie   Jan-16-10 07:14 PM   #98 
  - Doesn't work that way.  okie   Jan-16-10 07:39 AM   #75 
  - I would say yes if it meant we'd see...  pipi_k   Jan-16-10 08:12 AM   #77 
  - How about Somalia next?  Imajika   Jan-16-10 09:46 AM   #81 
  - Somalia too culturally dissimilar, so I'd vote no. n/t  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:25 AM   #87 
  - Statehood would be good for Haiti.  Octafish   Jan-16-10 10:20 AM   #83 
  - Think of The 2012 Campaign Opportunities!  Vogon_Glory   Jan-16-10 10:30 AM   #90 
  - Wal-Mart could force the minimum wage even lower and hire them as employees.  hunter   Jan-16-10 10:35 AM   #92 
  - Referendum Results: "I for one welcome our new US overlords." BTW isn't Banda Aceh the 51st state?  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-16-10 10:39 AM   #93 
  - It's an interesting idea...  MellowDem   Jan-16-10 11:36 AM   #94 
  - I wrote a blog advocating this  donritchie   Jan-16-10 05:14 PM   #96 
  - Haitians beat Napoleon's army and threw off slavery to become an INDEPENDENT NATION  Matariki   Jan-16-10 07:36 PM   #99 

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