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Fri Jan-15-10 07:54 PM
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| 5. No they are a basket case. Aid and self respect first. Why has PR gone its own way? |
| -Haiti as the 51st state. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 07:50 PM |
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Maybe they don't want to be a state. We can't just take somebody else's country. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Jan-15-10 07:52 PM |
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Gee, I did state that it would have to be a democratic referendum. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 07:54 PM |
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This whole premise disturbs me. Not just OP's question but some of the arrogant & racist responses |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jan-16-10 08:31 AM |
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Again I ask, why the only objection people have is "they're too backward" to conquer & assimilate? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jan-16-10 10:24 AM |
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Why not make Iraq the 52nd state? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jan-16-10 10:30 AM |
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why stop at haiti, why not the DR, or costa rica, or mexico, |
vadawg |
Jan-15-10 07:52 PM |
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+1 We can't fix everything for everyone |
Luciferous |
Jan-15-10 09:29 PM |
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What would it hurt to offer them the choice? |
TheWraith |
Jan-15-10 07:53 PM |
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As well intentioned as this is, I am betting they would say NO |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-15-10 07:53 PM |
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I'm betting yes. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 07:59 PM |
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question is they might vote yes, but would the States vote yes |
vadawg |
Jan-15-10 08:01 PM |
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Fair question...but I'm asking DUer's what they think. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:05 PM |
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You underestimate |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-15-10 08:06 PM |
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Perhaps, but I'll take your response as a no. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:22 PM |
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It smacks of imperialism. |
IntravenousDemilo |
Jan-15-10 08:19 PM |
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We did practically cause their poverty in recent years. We owe them help at the very least. |
Jennicut |
Jan-15-10 07:54 PM |
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No they are a basket case. Aid and self respect first. Why has PR gone its own way? |
sharesunited |
Jan-15-10 07:54 PM |
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It would be the 53rd state, not 51st. |
provis99 |
Jan-15-10 07:54 PM |
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When did Canada become an American state??? |
HeresyLives |
Jan-15-10 08:00 PM |
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Canada 51st state? You are such ignorant demented imbecile |
BunkerHill24 |
Jan-15-10 08:06 PM |
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I assume he's joking. |
HeresyLives |
Jan-15-10 08:11 PM |
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lol...That was something out off Freeper-World..wasn't it? |
BunkerHill24 |
Jan-15-10 08:17 PM |
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LOL certainly made me choke on my coffee! /nt |
HeresyLives |
Jan-15-10 08:19 PM |
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If Stephen Harper had his way, I'm sure that would almost be likely... |
IntravenousDemilo |
Jan-15-10 08:29 PM |
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Steven Harper enjoys minority government...he's on a leash |
BunkerHill24 |
Jan-15-10 08:42 PM |
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Yes, I know, I live in Canada. Harper doesn't enjoy minority government that much. |
IntravenousDemilo |
Jan-16-10 07:37 AM |
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What he really means is that we support them more than we should. |
Xenotime |
Jan-16-10 08:45 AM |
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Sarah Palin couldn't have made a dumber remark. |
aquart |
Jan-15-10 08:16 PM |
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Some Canadians have also made that assertion |
Canuckistanian |
Jan-15-10 08:41 PM |
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I Thought Puerto Rico Was Next... Or Was It Washington D.C. ??? |
WillyT |
Jan-15-10 07:55 PM |
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Guam! |
virgogal |
Jan-15-10 08:38 PM |
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Have you had a look at Puerto Rico recently |
malaise |
Jan-15-10 07:55 PM |
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So, no vote for letting them decide? |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:01 PM |
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As long as it's a Caribbean island, I can live with Puerto Rico or Haiti. Or Cuber for that matter. |
timeforpeace |
Jan-15-10 08:00 PM |
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Haiti is helluva closer than Israel ...so why not 51st state status? |
BunkerHill24 |
Jan-15-10 08:00 PM |
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I know alot of people who want green cards or visas |
stray cat |
Jan-15-10 08:05 PM |
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Do we need H1 visa's to move between states? |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:13 PM |
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BAD |
Texasgal |
Jan-15-10 08:10 PM |
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So, no referendum to let them decide, right? |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:15 PM |
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Maybe.. |
Texasgal |
Jan-15-10 08:19 PM |
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Interesting point. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:29 PM |
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I don't have a poll |
Texasgal |
Jan-15-10 08:37 PM |
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Well, lets take a poll to see if Native Americans want out of the Union. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:56 PM |
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we are talking about Hawaii |
Texasgal |
Jan-15-10 09:04 PM |
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It would if the Natives had a say....but Hawaii Natives did not have a say... |
winyanstaz |
Jan-15-10 11:31 PM |
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49th? |
Neecy |
Jan-16-10 10:29 AM |
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OK, i'll bite |
unabelladonna |
Jan-15-10 08:42 PM |
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The idea of 51st is of economic and preferential treatment, that's all. |
BunkerHill24 |
Jan-15-10 08:35 PM |
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This idea has bad news written all over. This is a crisis that we don't want to inherit. nt |
LLStarks |
Jan-15-10 08:12 PM |
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How arrogant. |
aquart |
Jan-15-10 08:15 PM |
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hehehe |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:19 PM |
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I would support it -- AND... |
Mike Nelson |
Jan-15-10 08:22 PM |
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what would that accomplish |
unabelladonna |
Jan-15-10 08:25 PM |
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Well, a lot actually. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:41 PM |
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okay then what, do we pick another country and make them the 52nd state |
vadawg |
Jan-15-10 08:50 PM |
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Don't know..depends on the circumstances. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 09:12 PM |
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at the risk of being called every name in the book |
unabelladonna |
Jan-15-10 08:50 PM |
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Good point.... |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 09:38 PM |
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Your intentions are noble, but naive. |
Harry Monroe |
Jan-15-10 08:39 PM |
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True that! |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 08:46 PM |
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nothing of the sort, i think the point you seem to be missing is why should they get a vote |
vadawg |
Jan-15-10 08:54 PM |
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I need to research the mechanism for bringing new states into the union. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 11:51 PM |
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A Couple Of Thoughts... |
KharmaTrain |
Jan-16-10 05:24 PM |
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Who says the US would want it? |
Ter |
Jan-15-10 08:39 PM |
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The British just recently took back Turks and Caicos |
HipChick |
Jan-15-10 08:42 PM |
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yup and i seem to remember the feeling on DU was that it was colonialism again |
vadawg |
Jan-15-10 08:52 PM |
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Well, Haiti IS flat broke and in horrendous debt |
notesdev |
Jan-15-10 08:52 PM |
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I thought Cancun and Punta Cana were the 51st and 52nd states. |
kwassa |
Jan-15-10 08:53 PM |
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Only the strategically important nude beaches. nt |
Robb |
Jan-15-10 09:06 PM |
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Why? |
Truthiness Inspector |
Jan-15-10 08:57 PM |
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Why would the States want to bring them into the Union? |
jdp349 |
Jan-15-10 09:12 PM |
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It would create jobs in the mainland US |
XemaSab |
Jan-15-10 09:26 PM |
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The Federal government would have to pay for it |
jdp349 |
Jan-15-10 09:40 PM |
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No problem...cut defense spending by 20% |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 11:18 PM |
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But we know that won't happen |
jdp349 |
Jan-16-10 09:38 AM |
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OK, so the general consensus here is' 'no fucking way' |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 09:30 PM |
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No merit whatsoever. Haiti is a free country. And besides, we have |
kestrel91316 |
Jan-15-10 09:43 PM |
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Ah, but you are speaking for the Haitians when you decide that they don't want |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 11:16 PM |
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How much do you know about Haitian history, or Haitian feelings toward US intervention? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jan-16-10 10:33 AM |
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So Let The Haitians Vote On It |
Vogon_Glory |
Jan-16-10 10:23 AM |
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So Let The Haitians Vote On It |
Vogon_Glory |
Jan-16-10 10:23 AM |
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They want to be their own country. |
ddeclue |
Jan-15-10 09:47 PM |
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Hard to argue with that fact. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-15-10 11:24 PM |
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Just every Haitian I've ever met while living in Florida. |
ddeclue |
Jan-16-10 02:40 PM |
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And members here wonder why... |
-..__... |
Jan-15-10 10:18 PM |
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At the Risk of Being Offensive |
Vogon_Glory |
Jan-16-10 07:17 AM |
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Do you believe Haiti was "self governing" in any meaningful sense? |
okie |
Jan-16-10 07:41 AM |
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No, I Don't Believe that Haiti Was Self-Governing--And Here's Why |
Vogon_Glory |
Jan-16-10 10:16 AM |
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tough questions |
okie |
Jan-16-10 07:14 PM |
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Doesn't work that way. |
okie |
Jan-16-10 07:39 AM |
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I would say yes if it meant we'd see... |
pipi_k |
Jan-16-10 08:12 AM |
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How about Somalia next? |
Imajika |
Jan-16-10 09:46 AM |
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Somalia too culturally dissimilar, so I'd vote no. n/t |
Vogon_Glory |
Jan-16-10 10:25 AM |
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Statehood would be good for Haiti. |
Octafish |
Jan-16-10 10:20 AM |
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Think of The 2012 Campaign Opportunities! |
Vogon_Glory |
Jan-16-10 10:30 AM |
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Wal-Mart could force the minimum wage even lower and hire them as employees. |
hunter |
Jan-16-10 10:35 AM |
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Referendum Results: "I for one welcome our new US overlords." BTW isn't Banda Aceh the 51st state? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jan-16-10 10:39 AM |
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It's an interesting idea... |
MellowDem |
Jan-16-10 11:36 AM |
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I wrote a blog advocating this |
donritchie |
Jan-16-10 05:14 PM |
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Haitians beat Napoleon's army and threw off slavery to become an INDEPENDENT NATION |
Matariki |
Jan-16-10 07:36 PM |
#99 |
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