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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 12:27 PM
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3. I'd be doing the happy dance if we got Clinton.
Clinton was brilliant, Clinton moved this country further left from where it was than probably any president on record. We could have elected Clinton for life and we'd be a better nation. The fact that we didn't go very far to the left is the result of how far to the right we were when he took office. Reagan was as reactionary and right wing as this nation has ever been, and Clinton reversed that trend.

What we got is exactly who ran. A smart politician with no strong ideology and no experience. He's better than Bush or Reagan by a thousand miles. He's done some good just by not being BushCo. I still hope he accomplishes more. But he never looked like FDR. This is the guy who praised Reagan during the campaign, and several times claimed he was modeling his campaign after Reagan's. I know that doesn't mean he liked Reagan's ideology, but face it, no one who praises Reagan in any way has any idea who FDR even was.
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  -I voted for FDR and got Clinton, instead. I am not a happy camper. Laelth  Jan-15-10 12:20 PM   #0 
  - i understand - but i really prefer clinton to the last 8 years of W -  stray cat   Jan-15-10 12:23 PM   #1 
  - Clinton is better than Bush.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 12:28 PM   #4 
  - I agree with you 100%.  OHdem10   Jan-15-10 12:51 PM   #23 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-15-10 12:26 PM   #2 
  - As far as "health Insurance Reform" that's absolutely true.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 12:32 PM   #9 
  - Riiiiiight, sure thing, Obama is McCain.....  Spazito   Jan-15-10 12:32 PM   #10 
  - I'd be doing the happy dance if we got Clinton.  jobycom   Jan-15-10 12:27 PM   #3 
  - My, my. All I can say is that I had a very different take on Clinton's Presidency.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 12:29 PM   #6 
  - Mine is right and yours is wrong.  jobycom   Jan-15-10 12:56 PM   #24 
  - Smile.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 01:02 PM   #29 
     - I can't think of a single thing Clinton did that wasn't a move to the left over Reagan's America.  jobycom   Jan-15-10 01:09 PM   #32 
        - then you're not thinking very hard.  Sheri   Jan-15-10 02:24 PM   #44 
        - Nice list there. nt  jobycom   Jan-15-10 07:20 PM   #68 
        - that's actually got some truth to it. Conservative Dems really undermined Clinton. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-15-10 03:06 PM   #59 
        - AFDC (which existed under Reagan) was more liberal than TANF (which Clinton enacted).  Laelth   Jan-15-10 03:57 PM   #61 
           - Except that Reagan had gutted it.  jobycom   Jan-15-10 07:32 PM   #69 
              - Your loyalty to Clinton is admirable all by itself.  Laelth   Jan-16-10 09:49 AM   #77 
        - How's About the 1996 Telecommunications Act?  NashVegas   Jan-15-10 07:41 PM   #71 
  - Your need to throw rocks at Clinton in order to offset your  DURHAM D   Jan-15-10 12:59 PM   #26 
     - I'm scratching my head on that one.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 01:13 PM   #35 
  - Were you even alive during the 90s? nt  anonymous171   Jan-15-10 12:36 PM   #14 
  - 80s and 90s. Were you? nt  jobycom   Jan-15-10 12:56 PM   #25 
     - I have been involved in politics for six decades.  DURHAM D   Jan-15-10 01:02 PM   #28 
  - I agree. nt  Liquorice   Jan-15-10 02:33 PM   #48 
  - You're delusional  TorchTheWitch   Jan-15-10 02:35 PM   #49 
     - It sounds like you are delusional one. nt  Liquorice   Jan-15-10 02:39 PM   #50 
     - No. You weren't paying attention, or you don't understand government.  jobycom   Jan-15-10 07:38 PM   #70 
  - We voted for change, and got  begin_within   Jan-15-10 12:29 PM   #5 
  - Smile.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 12:30 PM   #8 
  - yes, alas  amborin   Jan-15-10 12:35 PM   #12 
  - This is what we got...  Individualist   Jan-15-10 01:27 PM   #39 
  - I still have some hope for him but not happy so far  quinnox   Jan-15-10 12:29 PM   #7 
  - I don't have the courage to hope any longer.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 02:21 PM   #42 
  - I voted for Obama and got Clinton, and I'm delighted n/t  sandnsea   Jan-15-10 12:34 PM   #11 
  - That does not surprise me.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 02:13 PM   #41 
  - Obama never pretended to be FDR. You should vote for the one who sucks less.  pnwmom   Jan-15-10 12:36 PM   #13 
  - I know. I know. I was a fool.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 12:38 PM   #17 
     - If you had voted for a ticket with Palin on it, you would have been a fool.  pnwmom   Jan-15-10 12:41 PM   #19 
        - These things do, indeed, happen.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 12:45 PM   #20 
        - Disappointed idealist - I think that is the definition of 'cynic'. nt  RaleighNCDUer   Jan-15-10 12:45 PM   #21 
  - then you're a fool. he ran as a centrist, and he IS a centrist.  Sheri   Jan-15-10 12:36 PM   #15 
  - What's the point of name-calling? I don't get it. n/t  pnwmom   Jan-15-10 01:01 PM   #27 
     - you're right. my temper flares from time to time.  Sheri   Jan-15-10 01:04 PM   #30 
        - Everybody's frustrated, that's for sure.  pnwmom   Jan-15-10 06:28 PM   #67 
  - FDR is dead ...  RoyGBiv   Jan-15-10 12:37 PM   #16 
  - I know. I was a fool to hope.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 12:40 PM   #18 
  - That really is the problem. No liberal party.  muffin1   Jan-15-10 01:10 PM   #33 
  - As you rightly suggest, we have a few leaders ...  Laelth   Jan-15-10 01:32 PM   #40 
  - His Party Is Definitely On Life-Support...  WillyT   Jan-15-10 07:52 PM   #72 
  - FDR is DEAD,  bvar22   Jan-15-10 01:18 PM   #36 
     - right on! n/t  Sheri   Jan-16-10 08:26 AM   #75 
  - Dance with the one you brought I guess...  YOY   Jan-15-10 12:49 PM   #22 
  - Cheers  spoony   Jan-15-10 01:06 PM   #31 
  - LOL.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 01:24 PM   #37 
  - Try to imagine the disappointment of those who thought they were voting for Lincoln. . .  Journeyman   Jan-15-10 01:12 PM   #34 
  - True. I was a fool to hope. n/t  Laelth   Jan-15-10 01:25 PM   #38 
  - LOL...I suspect that if many of those people lived in the 19th century they would have been  SemiCharmedQuark   Jan-15-10 04:05 PM   #62 
  - When did he campaign as FDR?  WI_DEM   Jan-15-10 02:24 PM   #43 
  - I know. I know. I was a fool to hope.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 02:26 PM   #45 
     - You keep saying that ...  RoyGBiv   Jan-15-10 02:44 PM   #52 
        - I am making a point.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 02:59 PM   #55 
           - But you and many other people are comparing the reality of Clinton and Obama to the mythical FDR and  SemiCharmedQuark   Jan-15-10 04:09 PM   #63 
              - There is certainly a chance that Obama could become more liberal.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 05:34 PM   #66 
  - You were betrayed only by yourself  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-15-10 02:28 PM   #46 
  - I know. I was a fool to hope. n/t  Laelth   Jan-15-10 02:59 PM   #56 
  - Yeah? I voted for James Madison!  Blue-Jay   Jan-15-10 02:29 PM   #47 
  - I voted for Obama and got Obama......  whistler162   Jan-15-10 02:41 PM   #51 
  - Indeed. I was a fool to hope.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 02:56 PM   #54 
  - k and r  Faryn Balyncd   Jan-15-10 02:45 PM   #53 
  - I voted for change and got chump change.  Odin2005   Jan-15-10 03:01 PM   #57 
  - Smile. Thanks for that. n/t  Laelth   Jan-16-10 07:01 AM   #73 
  - I tried to warn folks, but no one listened. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-15-10 03:05 PM   #58 
  - Early on in the primaries, I was leery.  Laelth   Jan-16-10 07:18 AM   #74 
  - Sadly, I think we haven't demanded an FDR  Spike89   Jan-15-10 03:20 PM   #60 
  - Interesting perspective.  Laelth   Jan-15-10 04:49 PM   #64 
  - FDR was also surrounded by serious progressives: ER, Ickes, Hopkins, Wallace, etc. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-16-10 02:13 PM   #85 
  - Describes my feelings.  ieoeja   Jan-15-10 04:50 PM   #65 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-16-10 09:46 AM   #76 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-16-10 09:52 AM   #78 
     - That was an excellent post.  Laelth   Jan-16-10 10:05 AM   #79 
        - What Happened?  Hidden Stillness   Jan-16-10 10:20 AM   #80 
           - I suspect it was deleted for "calling out" other DU members.  Laelth   Jan-16-10 10:22 AM   #81 
  - Well, that might be part of your your problem  Proud Liberal Dem   Jan-16-10 10:39 AM   #82 
  - Is it MY problem, or is it America's?  Laelth   Jan-16-10 10:48 AM   #83 
  - I voted for promised change and got the same old, same old n/t  dajoki   Jan-16-10 11:05 AM   #84 
 

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