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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 12:45 PM
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5. Both Clinton and Obama had lousy ideas
Edwards had the one with the best chance of making it and being real reform, but we see what a pig's ear Congress is threatening to make out of even timid reform.

Until we manage to dump conservatives out of Congress, we're not going to get much of anything.
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  -Back during the campaign, it was clear that Edwards and Clinton had pnwmom  Jan-10-10 12:41 PM   #0 
  - This is bound to go well.  Forkboy   Jan-10-10 12:41 PM   #1 
  - Oh well. Live dangerously. n/t  pnwmom   Jan-10-10 12:45 PM   #4 
     - I can appreciate that.  Forkboy   Jan-10-10 01:05 PM   #26 
  - I don't feel betrayed or disappointed or disillusioned, far from it  Adelante   Jan-10-10 12:43 PM   #2 
  - Obama supporters don't feel betrayed  sandnsea   Jan-10-10 12:44 PM   #3 
  - I don't see that. I've noticed a lot of Greens and Kucinich supporters, though. n/t  pnwmom   Jan-10-10 12:47 PM   #8 
  - Do a Google reminder  sandnsea   Jan-10-10 12:51 PM   #16 
  - I supported Obama. I feel betrayed.  anonymous171   Jan-10-10 12:47 PM   #9 
  - So wanting a public option = "left wing lunatic" to you?  highplainsdem   Jan-10-10 12:48 PM   #11 
     - Ranting away when you're told to  sandnsea   Jan-10-10 12:50 PM   #13 
     - I'm not "ranting away." Nor am I being "told" to do anything. Nor am I being "played."  highplainsdem   Jan-10-10 12:54 PM   #20 
     - Naw, you are a master "player" here. Ready with the talking points always  Go2Peace   Jan-10-10 12:55 PM   #21 
     - You will get nowhere with SandAndSea  Go2Peace   Jan-10-10 12:53 PM   #19 
  - Both Clinton and Obama had lousy ideas  Warpy   Jan-10-10 12:45 PM   #5 
  - I think the real problem is the 60 vote filibuster requirement. n/t  pnwmom   Jan-10-10 12:46 PM   #6 
  - Baggage didn't help.  Liberal Veteran   Jan-10-10 12:46 PM   #7 
  - True enough. nt  pnwmom   Jan-10-10 12:47 PM   #10 
  - edwards and clinton would have gotten the message that obama did...  madrchsod   Jan-10-10 12:49 PM   #12 
  - I agree. The members of the Senate were always going to be the ones  pnwmom   Jan-10-10 12:52 PM   #17 
  - Obama made it "sound" like he was progressive and did make some progressive statements  Go2Peace   Jan-10-10 12:50 PM   #14 
  - Obama's "government run plan" (PO, but dont admit it) was better  DJ13   Jan-10-10 12:50 PM   #15 
  - What was better about Obama's proposed public option? n/t  pnwmom   Jan-10-10 12:53 PM   #18 
  - Compared to forced buying of for profit insurance?  DJ13   Jan-10-10 12:56 PM   #23 
     - Obama's plan had subsidized insurance too  sandnsea   Jan-10-10 01:02 PM   #25 
  - Since it was my pet issue, I studied them carefully and I agree. I understand  blondeatlast   Jan-10-10 12:56 PM   #22 
  - And neither one of them would have passed their "stronger health bills"  Cheap_Trick   Jan-10-10 01:01 PM   #24 
  - Locking  cbayer   Jan-10-10 01:05 PM   #27 

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