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Sat Jan-09-10 08:52 AM
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| 66. Um.... they don't give you food stamps anymore. |
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You get a debit card. No one can tell the difference.
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| -Food stamps should not exist in America today. FULL STOP. |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-08-10 11:30 PM |
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If we just gave them cash, they'd use it for objectionable things they can't be trusted with. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-08-10 11:33 PM |
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"They cant be trusted with" |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-08-10 11:45 PM |
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Uganda, for example. |
AngryAmish |
Jan-09-10 08:15 AM |
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Did you forget the 'sarcasm' tag? |
blindpig |
Jan-09-10 07:07 AM |
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If you can't tell |
Dappleganger |
Jan-09-10 10:23 AM |
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Given some of the stuff people say around here |
blindpig |
Jan-09-10 10:38 AM |
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Too true. |
Dappleganger |
Jan-09-10 12:14 PM |
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I wouldn't be so sure of that , considering the source. nt |
jonnyblitz |
Jan-09-10 01:34 PM |
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When people on food stamps go to the grocery, they pay with a plastic card |
kestrel91316 |
Jan-08-10 11:33 PM |
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Aside from the shape, it doesn't look all that much like a credit card |
Orrex |
Jan-08-10 11:46 PM |
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I see no big deal about that card. And in most places, no one will even see you swipe it |
cali |
Jan-09-10 03:42 AM |
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YMMV, but that's entirely inconsistent with my experience. |
Orrex |
Jan-09-10 07:00 AM |
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Only people like you pay attention to what other people are doing. |
tonysam |
Jan-09-10 11:24 AM |
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Well, you have no idea what you're talking about. |
Orrex |
Jan-09-10 12:33 PM |
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Intelligent people notice things. |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Jan-09-10 01:31 PM |
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There is no big deal with them. |
tonysam |
Jan-09-10 11:23 AM |
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Nor have I suggested anywhere that anyone should "feel a sense of 'shame'" by the way |
Orrex |
Jan-09-10 12:34 PM |
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That hideous graphic is probably intended to differentiate it from bank credit and debit cards |
Gormy Cuss |
Jan-09-10 02:01 PM |
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You're certainly right that it's an improvement |
Orrex |
Jan-09-10 02:47 PM |
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But making it stand out simplifies the process when the cashier or manager needs to explain why |
Gormy Cuss |
Jan-09-10 03:00 PM |
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That's possible, but I'm not convinced |
Orrex |
Jan-09-10 04:05 PM |
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Oh, I agree that there's no need for them to stand out. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jan-09-10 06:39 PM |
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What's disgusting is the small amount of food those food stamp cards will buy. |
Lars39 |
Jan-08-10 11:34 PM |
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A proper safety net |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 12:00 AM |
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Many people can't work, and those with small children shouldn't. |
tonysam |
Jan-09-10 11:27 AM |
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You should post this |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-08-10 11:35 PM |
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Ugh. Flame bait from you? Why? nt |
babylonsister |
Jan-08-10 11:36 PM |
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What an utterly incoherent jeremiad. Stick to one subject. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-08-10 11:37 PM |
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+1 n/t |
NYC_SKP |
Jan-08-10 11:50 PM |
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Why? Why should we not have a guaranteed income in this country? |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-09-10 03:13 AM |
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A certain percentage |
pipoman |
Jan-09-10 06:48 AM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Jan-09-10 03:09 PM |
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Food stamps are wrong |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 09:18 AM |
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Oh bullshit |
tonysam |
Jan-09-10 11:29 AM |
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You're still incoherent. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-09-10 01:39 PM |
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Give them the money |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 03:00 PM |
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I don't have a problem with food stamps. It looks like a debit card, which is how everyone |
beyurslf |
Jan-08-10 11:38 PM |
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people shouldn't be on the dole either... except there isn't an industrialized nation in teh world |
KittyWampus |
Jan-08-10 11:39 PM |
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they should starve instead |
eShirl |
Jan-08-10 11:42 PM |
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hence GOVERNMENT CHEESE. Or food stamps. |
KittyWampus |
Jan-08-10 11:44 PM |
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oh sorry |
eShirl |
Jan-08-10 11:51 PM |
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They have a "dole" |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-08-10 11:47 PM |
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And what a life of luxury it grants them! |
Orrex |
Jan-08-10 11:50 PM |
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In most places you get a card that looks for all the world like a debit card. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-08-10 11:39 PM |
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Do you have a link for that? |
surrealAmerican |
Jan-09-10 11:08 AM |
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Two Studies: USDA and Moody's |
Melinda |
Jan-09-10 01:34 PM |
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I've read studies that claim even higher revenue generation. I'm |
quiller4 |
Jan-09-10 11:17 AM |
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Actually, most weapons are scrapped |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-10 11:39 PM |
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If food stamps paid for alcohol then some addicted parents wouldn't use them |
pnwmom |
Jan-08-10 11:44 PM |
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+1 |
Incitatus |
Jan-08-10 11:54 PM |
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What is with the default view that poor people are addicts? |
shawcomm |
Jan-09-10 12:12 AM |
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I said "some" people. Poor people have at least the same number of alcohol |
pnwmom |
Jan-09-10 12:33 AM |
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Sorry, but losing job due to addiction is a class thing as well |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-09-10 09:24 AM |
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The reason there is so much public support for helping people with food aid |
pnwmom |
Jan-09-10 09:38 AM |
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FOOD stamps are for FOOD. |
aquart |
Jan-09-10 01:05 AM |
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Alcohol is a cheap drug for the depressed... |
Dappleganger |
Jan-09-10 10:27 AM |
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You have it backward. |
Xithras |
Jan-09-10 01:32 PM |
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So everyone on food stamps should have their life controlled |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 12:34 PM |
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Friday nights on DU |
frazzled |
Jan-08-10 11:45 PM |
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Squeejie men??? |
Dappleganger |
Jan-09-10 10:29 AM |
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Yeah right guess you missed all the posts on how poor folks shouldn't spend their |
mrcheerful |
Jan-08-10 11:49 PM |
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Food stamps should be avaliable to all. |
Terra Alta |
Jan-08-10 11:50 PM |
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How high up on 'Maslow's hierarchy of needs' should the Gov't stop providing? n/t |
RedRubberBall |
Jan-09-10 12:00 AM |
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They should provide all the way up to grand estates with fields, servants, and workers. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-09-10 09:31 AM |
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Really? |
pipoman |
Jan-09-10 07:22 AM |
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Quit spending billions on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan |
Terra Alta |
Jan-09-10 06:25 PM |
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If someone is so poor that they cannot afford to put food on the table, they deseve food stamps. |
Incitatus |
Jan-08-10 11:52 PM |
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The view that food stamps should be continued |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-08-10 11:58 PM |
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How much booze and entertainment |
shawcomm |
Jan-09-10 12:09 AM |
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The real question you are asking |
pipoman |
Jan-09-10 07:50 AM |
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I guess then it is best if the addicts you speak of |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-09-10 09:42 AM |
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So do you contribute to a wine for winos program? |
pipoman |
Jan-09-10 07:03 PM |
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Far too many are being way ti snobby about hiw the poor should spend money. |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-08-10 11:56 PM |
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There are basic needs. |
Incitatus |
Jan-09-10 12:02 AM |
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"alcohol and entertainment" |
Orrex |
Jan-09-10 12:04 AM |
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No one, I mean no one |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 12:12 AM |
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Sounds like in one breath |
pipoman |
Jan-09-10 08:45 AM |
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I do not think any Nation with a decent welfare system |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 09:23 AM |
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So, often, people who are receiving benefits |
pipoman |
Jan-09-10 07:22 PM |
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Fuckit, you've convinced me |
Fla_Democrat |
Jan-09-10 09:24 AM |
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We must also have compassion on the fiscally deranged and give'em a year's wages the next month, too |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-09-10 09:34 AM |
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Hey, being and adult has consequences |
Fla_Democrat |
Jan-09-10 09:48 AM |
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I was being sarcastic |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-09-10 01:33 PM |
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Kinda figured |
Fla_Democrat |
Jan-09-10 05:20 PM |
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One school of thought says that receiving public assistance should be as humiliating as possible |
bluestateguy |
Jan-09-10 12:01 AM |
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It should not be a school of thought acceptable on a Liberal forum, |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 12:04 AM |
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Out there, nothing. It's the view in here most days |
laughingliberal |
Jan-09-10 09:08 AM |
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It's ridiculous... |
shawcomm |
Jan-09-10 12:06 AM |
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I lived on them for years Get hungry and they're a godsend, |
cliffordu |
Jan-09-10 12:08 AM |
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I helped to re-write the Social Security system in the UK. |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 12:17 AM |
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Well fed people should STFU about these matters |
cliffordu |
Jan-09-10 12:23 AM |
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The Social Security system |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 12:37 AM |
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This goes right back to Regan, I believe...his constant |
cliffordu |
Jan-09-10 01:30 AM |
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Yep. Today we are busily creating more and more mythological creatures akin to his welfare queens |
laughingliberal |
Jan-09-10 09:20 AM |
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What the hell do you think UI came from? |
tonysam |
Jan-09-10 11:30 AM |
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my assumption is that most people are feckless |
hfojvt |
Jan-09-10 11:43 AM |
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That sounds EXACTLY like one of my republican, racist, classist stepfathers |
cliffordu |
Jan-09-10 11:55 AM |
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perhaps he was right too |
hfojvt |
Jan-09-10 12:28 PM |
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He was talking about 'welfare cheats' nudge nudge wink wink. |
cliffordu |
Jan-09-10 12:40 PM |
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I agree. Everyone should recieve a guaranteed income. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jan-09-10 12:31 AM |
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Most of the problems with Food Stamps could be fixed easily |
johnaries |
Jan-09-10 01:12 AM |
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I think debit cards are standard practice. |
Bill McBlueState |
Jan-09-10 11:21 AM |
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I had no idea there was a second hand food market |
My Good Babushka |
Jan-09-10 01:17 PM |
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Deleted. nt. |
My Good Babushka |
Jan-09-10 01:18 PM |
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Democrats should be working on eliminating the PROBLEM that........ |
Double T |
Jan-09-10 01:20 AM |
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I agree with you on the one hand. |
NoUsername |
Jan-09-10 01:25 AM |
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I'm on food stamps. And I'm GLAD they can only be used for food. |
ThatPoetGuy |
Jan-09-10 02:46 AM |
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ridiculous. the problem with food stamps- which are no longer "stamps" in |
cali |
Jan-09-10 03:40 AM |
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All nations have a form of this. |
proteus_lives |
Jan-09-10 03:43 AM |
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The stamps themselves were pretty hurtful to deal with as a kid |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-09-10 06:38 AM |
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That was in the days when people still used coupons instead of electronic |
quiller4 |
Jan-09-10 11:18 AM |
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Jan-09-10 06:27 AM |
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I like this idea.... K&R. |
midnight |
Jan-09-10 07:08 AM |
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I have a food assistance EBT card and nobody but the cashier really notices I use one. |
elocs |
Jan-09-10 07:19 AM |
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my food budget is also about $50 a week and I eat very well. |
cali |
Jan-09-10 09:23 AM |
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It is a crime that the poor are not provided with free booze |
AngryAmish |
Jan-09-10 08:14 AM |
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Should you ever lose your good living and need booze |
SOS |
Jan-09-10 04:33 PM |
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Your absolutely correct. |
ipaint |
Jan-09-10 08:34 AM |
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supporting the food stamp program is not a neo liberal position |
cali |
Jan-09-10 08:53 AM |
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Um.... they don't give you food stamps anymore. |
Kalyke |
Jan-09-10 08:52 AM |
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Except you can |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 09:27 AM |
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Yeah, limited... |
FLDCVADem |
Jan-09-10 10:22 AM |
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Again, ALL grocery stores accept them. |
tonysam |
Jan-09-10 11:32 AM |
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You are not limited in WA state. All the grocery chains and convenience |
quiller4 |
Jan-09-10 05:02 PM |
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and you can't sell the stamps for cash |
underpants |
Jan-09-10 10:56 AM |
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"THEY" is a word being used far too often in this thread. It's "WE." nt |
blondeatlast |
Jan-09-10 10:26 AM |
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+1 n/t |
Moosepoop |
Jan-09-10 10:51 AM |
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You are going to have a hard time convincing BigAgra to do away with "food stamps" |
underpants |
Jan-09-10 10:55 AM |
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poverty should not exist in america today. |
spanone |
Jan-09-10 10:58 AM |
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i have no problem with food stamps as a concept...but the process should be better. |
dysfunctional press |
Jan-09-10 10:59 AM |
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WIC is Womens Infants & Children - nutritional support |
MissB |
Jan-09-10 01:58 PM |
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In Pennsylvania, each WIC check is effectively a coupon for specific, named items |
Orrex |
Jan-09-10 02:52 PM |
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That's how it works here. Most stores label the WIC-eligible items, |
LeftyMom |
Jan-09-10 06:39 PM |
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I am glad they exist. By the way, most if not all states don't have coupons anymore. |
tonysam |
Jan-09-10 11:21 AM |
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I agree. We should not be shaming the poor and treating them like children. |
Odin2005 |
Jan-09-10 12:56 PM |
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I would like the Food Access cards to pay for anything in the store |
My Good Babushka |
Jan-09-10 01:24 PM |
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That is why I think it should be money |
TheBigotBasher |
Jan-09-10 03:05 PM |
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K&InvisibleR |
leftstreet |
Jan-09-10 03:11 PM |
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The Nanny State mixed message |
pipi_k |
Jan-09-10 06:17 PM |
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I'm proud of you too, just for the record. |
Meldread |
Jan-09-10 07:10 PM |
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