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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:12 AM
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37. No one, I mean no one
else does what America dies.

In the UK, if you are a single person, our Social Security system is somewhat crap.

If you have been working, your full rent is covered for 13 weeks, no matter how expensive. You get 65 ($100) a week to spend how you choose. All local taxes are paid.

In France, the same, except you get $200 a week.

In the UK, if you have a child, you can get up to $30,000 to help with child care costs and food costs so that you can remain in work.

There are also schemes to help you transition from unemployment benefits to in work benefits, including paying the full rent for the first month returning to work.
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  -Food stamps should not exist in America today. FULL STOP. TheBigotBasher  Jan-08-10 11:30 PM   #0 
  - If we just gave them cash, they'd use it for objectionable things they can't be trusted with.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-08-10 11:33 PM   #1 
  - "They cant be trusted with"  TheBigotBasher   Jan-08-10 11:45 PM   #14 
  - Uganda, for example.  AngryAmish   Jan-09-10 08:15 AM   #63 
  - Did you forget the 'sarcasm' tag?  blindpig   Jan-09-10 07:07 AM   #57 
     - If you can't tell  Dappleganger   Jan-09-10 10:23 AM   #82 
        - Given some of the stuff people say around here  blindpig   Jan-09-10 10:38 AM   #86 
        - Too true.  Dappleganger   Jan-09-10 12:14 PM   #105 
        - I wouldn't be so sure of that , considering the source. nt  jonnyblitz   Jan-09-10 01:34 PM   #119 
  - When people on food stamps go to the grocery, they pay with a plastic card  kestrel91316   Jan-08-10 11:33 PM   #2 
  - Aside from the shape, it doesn't look all that much like a credit card  Orrex   Jan-08-10 11:46 PM   #16 
     - I see no big deal about that card. And in most places, no one will even see you swipe it  cali   Jan-09-10 03:42 AM   #51 
     - YMMV, but that's entirely inconsistent with my experience.  Orrex   Jan-09-10 07:00 AM   #56 
        - Only people like you pay attention to what other people are doing.  tonysam   Jan-09-10 11:24 AM   #98 
           - Well, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Orrex   Jan-09-10 12:33 PM   #107 
           - Intelligent people notice things.  ChadwickHenryWard   Jan-09-10 01:31 PM   #115 
     - There is no big deal with them.  tonysam   Jan-09-10 11:23 AM   #97 
     - Nor have I suggested anywhere that anyone should "feel a sense of 'shame'" by the way  Orrex   Jan-09-10 12:34 PM   #109 
     - That hideous graphic is probably intended to differentiate it from bank credit and debit cards  Gormy Cuss   Jan-09-10 02:01 PM   #122 
        - You're certainly right that it's an improvement  Orrex   Jan-09-10 02:47 PM   #123 
           - But making it stand out simplifies the process when the cashier or manager needs to explain why  Gormy Cuss   Jan-09-10 03:00 PM   #126 
              - That's possible, but I'm not convinced  Orrex   Jan-09-10 04:05 PM   #130 
                 - Oh, I agree that there's no need for them to stand out.  Gormy Cuss   Jan-09-10 06:39 PM   #136 
  - What's disgusting is the small amount of food those food stamp cards will buy.  Lars39   Jan-08-10 11:34 PM   #3 
  - A proper safety net  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 12:00 AM   #28 
     - Many people can't work, and those with small children shouldn't.  tonysam   Jan-09-10 11:27 AM   #99 
  - You should post this  LoZoccolo   Jan-08-10 11:35 PM   #4 
  - Ugh. Flame bait from you? Why? nt  babylonsister   Jan-08-10 11:36 PM   #5 
  - What an utterly incoherent jeremiad. Stick to one subject.  Rabrrrrrr   Jan-08-10 11:37 PM   #6 
  - +1 n/t  NYC_SKP   Jan-08-10 11:50 PM   #19 
  - Why? Why should we not have a guaranteed income in this country?  Luminous Animal   Jan-09-10 03:13 AM   #49 
  - A certain percentage  pipoman   Jan-09-10 06:48 AM   #55 
  - +1  leftstreet   Jan-09-10 03:09 PM   #128 
  - Food stamps are wrong  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 09:18 AM   #69 
     - Oh bullshit  tonysam   Jan-09-10 11:29 AM   #100 
     - You're still incoherent.  Rabrrrrrr   Jan-09-10 01:39 PM   #120 
        - Give them the money  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 03:00 PM   #125 
  - I don't have a problem with food stamps. It looks like a debit card, which is how everyone  beyurslf   Jan-08-10 11:38 PM   #7 
  - people shouldn't be on the dole either... except there isn't an industrialized nation in teh world  KittyWampus   Jan-08-10 11:39 PM   #8 
  - they should starve instead  eShirl   Jan-08-10 11:42 PM   #11 
  - hence GOVERNMENT CHEESE. Or food stamps.  KittyWampus   Jan-08-10 11:44 PM   #13 
     - oh sorry  eShirl   Jan-08-10 11:51 PM   #22 
  - They have a "dole"  TheBigotBasher   Jan-08-10 11:47 PM   #17 
     - And what a life of luxury it grants them!  Orrex   Jan-08-10 11:50 PM   #20 
  - In most places you get a card that looks for all the world like a debit card.  Hello_Kitty   Jan-08-10 11:39 PM   #9 
  - Do you have a link for that?  surrealAmerican   Jan-09-10 11:08 AM   #92 
  - Two Studies: USDA and Moody's  Melinda   Jan-09-10 01:34 PM   #118 
  - I've read studies that claim even higher revenue generation. I'm  quiller4   Jan-09-10 11:17 AM   #93 
  - Actually, most weapons are scrapped  sandnsea   Jan-08-10 11:39 PM   #10 
  - If food stamps paid for alcohol then some addicted parents wouldn't use them  pnwmom   Jan-08-10 11:44 PM   #12 
  - +1  Incitatus   Jan-08-10 11:54 PM   #24 
  - What is with the default view that poor people are addicts?  shawcomm   Jan-09-10 12:12 AM   #36 
  - I said "some" people. Poor people have at least the same number of alcohol  pnwmom   Jan-09-10 12:33 AM   #41 
  - Sorry, but losing job due to addiction is a class thing as well  Bluenorthwest   Jan-09-10 09:24 AM   #74 
     - The reason there is so much public support for helping people with food aid  pnwmom   Jan-09-10 09:38 AM   #78 
  - FOOD stamps are for FOOD.  aquart   Jan-09-10 01:05 AM   #43 
  - Alcohol is a cheap drug for the depressed...  Dappleganger   Jan-09-10 10:27 AM   #84 
  - You have it backward.  Xithras   Jan-09-10 01:32 PM   #116 
  - So everyone on food stamps should have their life controlled  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 12:34 PM   #108 
  - Friday nights on DU  frazzled   Jan-08-10 11:45 PM   #15 
  - Squeejie men???  Dappleganger   Jan-09-10 10:29 AM   #85 
  - Yeah right guess you missed all the posts on how poor folks shouldn't spend their  mrcheerful   Jan-08-10 11:49 PM   #18 
  - Food stamps should be avaliable to all.  Terra Alta   Jan-08-10 11:50 PM   #21 
  - How high up on 'Maslow's hierarchy of needs' should the Gov't stop providing? n/t  RedRubberBall   Jan-09-10 12:00 AM   #27 
  - They should provide all the way up to grand estates with fields, servants, and workers.  Rabrrrrrr   Jan-09-10 09:31 AM   #76 
  - Really?  pipoman   Jan-09-10 07:22 AM   #60 
     - Quit spending billions on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan  Terra Alta   Jan-09-10 06:25 PM   #135 
  - If someone is so poor that they cannot afford to put food on the table, they deseve food stamps.  Incitatus   Jan-08-10 11:52 PM   #23 
  - The view that food stamps should be continued  TheBigotBasher   Jan-08-10 11:58 PM   #26 
  - How much booze and entertainment  shawcomm   Jan-09-10 12:09 AM   #35 
     - The real question you are asking  pipoman   Jan-09-10 07:50 AM   #61 
        - I guess then it is best if the addicts you speak of  Bluenorthwest   Jan-09-10 09:42 AM   #79 
           - So do you contribute to a wine for winos program?  pipoman   Jan-09-10 07:03 PM   #138 
  - Far too many are being way ti snobby about hiw the poor should spend money.  TheBigotBasher   Jan-08-10 11:56 PM   #25 
  - There are basic needs.  Incitatus   Jan-09-10 12:02 AM   #30 
  - "alcohol and entertainment"  Orrex   Jan-09-10 12:04 AM   #32 
  - No one, I mean no one  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 12:12 AM   #37 
     - Sounds like in one breath  pipoman   Jan-09-10 08:45 AM   #65 
        - I do not think any Nation with a decent welfare system  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 09:23 AM   #71 
           - So, often, people who are receiving benefits  pipoman   Jan-09-10 07:22 PM   #140 
  - Fuckit, you've convinced me  Fla_Democrat   Jan-09-10 09:24 AM   #73 
     - We must also have compassion on the fiscally deranged and give'em a year's wages the next month, too  Rabrrrrrr   Jan-09-10 09:34 AM   #77 
        - Hey, being and adult has consequences  Fla_Democrat   Jan-09-10 09:48 AM   #80 
           - I was being sarcastic  Rabrrrrrr   Jan-09-10 01:33 PM   #117 
              - Kinda figured  Fla_Democrat   Jan-09-10 05:20 PM   #133 
  - One school of thought says that receiving public assistance should be as humiliating as possible  bluestateguy   Jan-09-10 12:01 AM   #29 
  - It should not be a school of thought acceptable on a Liberal forum,  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 12:04 AM   #31 
  - Out there, nothing. It's the view in here most days  laughingliberal   Jan-09-10 09:08 AM   #68 
  - It's ridiculous...  shawcomm   Jan-09-10 12:06 AM   #33 
  - I lived on them for years Get hungry and they're a godsend,  cliffordu   Jan-09-10 12:08 AM   #34 
  - I helped to re-write the Social Security system in the UK.  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 12:17 AM   #38 
     - Well fed people should STFU about these matters  cliffordu   Jan-09-10 12:23 AM   #39 
        - The Social Security system  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 12:37 AM   #42 
           - This goes right back to Regan, I believe...his constant  cliffordu   Jan-09-10 01:30 AM   #47 
           - Yep. Today we are busily creating more and more mythological creatures akin to his welfare queens  laughingliberal   Jan-09-10 09:20 AM   #70 
           - What the hell do you think UI came from?  tonysam   Jan-09-10 11:30 AM   #101 
           - my assumption is that most people are feckless  hfojvt   Jan-09-10 11:43 AM   #103 
              - That sounds EXACTLY like one of my republican, racist, classist stepfathers  cliffordu   Jan-09-10 11:55 AM   #104 
                 - perhaps he was right too  hfojvt   Jan-09-10 12:28 PM   #106 
                    - He was talking about 'welfare cheats' nudge nudge wink wink.  cliffordu   Jan-09-10 12:40 PM   #110 
  - I agree. Everyone should recieve a guaranteed income. nt  anonymous171   Jan-09-10 12:31 AM   #40 
  - Most of the problems with Food Stamps could be fixed easily  johnaries   Jan-09-10 01:12 AM   #44 
  - I think debit cards are standard practice.  Bill McBlueState   Jan-09-10 11:21 AM   #95 
  - I had no idea there was a second hand food market  My Good Babushka   Jan-09-10 01:17 PM   #112 
  - Deleted. nt.  My Good Babushka   Jan-09-10 01:18 PM   #113 
  - Democrats should be working on eliminating the PROBLEM that........  Double T   Jan-09-10 01:20 AM   #45 
  - I agree with you on the one hand.  NoUsername   Jan-09-10 01:25 AM   #46 
  - I'm on food stamps. And I'm GLAD they can only be used for food.  ThatPoetGuy   Jan-09-10 02:46 AM   #48 
  - ridiculous. the problem with food stamps- which are no longer "stamps" in  cali   Jan-09-10 03:40 AM   #50 
  - All nations have a form of this.  proteus_lives   Jan-09-10 03:43 AM   #52 
  - The stamps themselves were pretty hurtful to deal with as a kid  TheKentuckian   Jan-09-10 06:38 AM   #54 
     - That was in the days when people still used coupons instead of electronic  quiller4   Jan-09-10 11:18 AM   #94 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-09-10 06:27 AM   #53 
  - I like this idea.... K&R.  midnight   Jan-09-10 07:08 AM   #58 
  - I have a food assistance EBT card and nobody but the cashier really notices I use one.  elocs   Jan-09-10 07:19 AM   #59 
  - my food budget is also about $50 a week and I eat very well.  cali   Jan-09-10 09:23 AM   #72 
  - It is a crime that the poor are not provided with free booze  AngryAmish   Jan-09-10 08:14 AM   #62 
  - Should you ever lose your good living and need booze  SOS   Jan-09-10 04:33 PM   #131 
  - Your absolutely correct.  ipaint   Jan-09-10 08:34 AM   #64 
  - supporting the food stamp program is not a neo liberal position  cali   Jan-09-10 08:53 AM   #67 
  - Um.... they don't give you food stamps anymore.  Kalyke   Jan-09-10 08:52 AM   #66 
  - Except you can  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 09:27 AM   #75 
  - Yeah, limited...  FLDCVADem   Jan-09-10 10:22 AM   #81 
  - Again, ALL grocery stores accept them.  tonysam   Jan-09-10 11:32 AM   #102 
  - You are not limited in WA state. All the grocery chains and convenience  quiller4   Jan-09-10 05:02 PM   #132 
  - and you can't sell the stamps for cash  underpants   Jan-09-10 10:56 AM   #89 
  - "THEY" is a word being used far too often in this thread. It's "WE." nt  blondeatlast   Jan-09-10 10:26 AM   #83 
  - +1 n/t  Moosepoop   Jan-09-10 10:51 AM   #87 
  - You are going to have a hard time convincing BigAgra to do away with "food stamps"  underpants   Jan-09-10 10:55 AM   #88 
  - poverty should not exist in america today.  spanone   Jan-09-10 10:58 AM   #90 
  - i have no problem with food stamps as a concept...but the process should be better.  dysfunctional press   Jan-09-10 10:59 AM   #91 
  - WIC is Womens Infants & Children - nutritional support  MissB   Jan-09-10 01:58 PM   #121 
     - In Pennsylvania, each WIC check is effectively a coupon for specific, named items  Orrex   Jan-09-10 02:52 PM   #124 
        - That's how it works here. Most stores label the WIC-eligible items,  LeftyMom   Jan-09-10 06:39 PM   #137 
  - I am glad they exist. By the way, most if not all states don't have coupons anymore.  tonysam   Jan-09-10 11:21 AM   #96 
  - I agree. We should not be shaming the poor and treating them like children.  Odin2005   Jan-09-10 12:56 PM   #111 
  - I would like the Food Access cards to pay for anything in the store  My Good Babushka   Jan-09-10 01:24 PM   #114 
  - That is why I think it should be money  TheBigotBasher   Jan-09-10 03:05 PM   #127 
  - K&InvisibleR  leftstreet   Jan-09-10 03:11 PM   #129 
  - The Nanny State mixed message  pipi_k   Jan-09-10 06:17 PM   #134 
     - I'm proud of you too, just for the record.  Meldread   Jan-09-10 07:10 PM   #139 

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