Reply #46: Interesting musings, but some details lacking, and some BS intertwined.

[jmg257]

1) Cho had his Glock for all of what - 5 weeks? But this wacko fuck, with sick motivation, good planning, and poor laws, made certain he would be the only shark in a busy gold fish bowl for a loong time. Had he even ever shot a gun before before? - 5 weeks he had one! He was apparently not some well-trained right wing NRA gun nut. He was a psycho who blamed the rich and everyone else for his problems - and he took it upon himself to provide payback. He locked himself in, he had NO fear of reprisal, and he took his time and executed HELPLESS people!

2) When you are locked in that bowl with Cho, are you relying on that cop huffing and puffing down the street to come save you? How 'bout the one taking cover behind the tree? Are you counting on Cho's good will (??) to spare you, or HIS capabilities with a weapon? Are you dialing 911 as the rounds are flying? BULLSHIT! This incident shows again you can NOT rely on anyone BUT YOURSELF! I NEVER hear responsible gun owners tell ANYONE to "just go buy a gun and stick in your waisteband so you can save the world". We ALWAYS advocate training, practice, safety, more practice, and a realistic attitude and awareness. Those who are too inept or irresponsible? Who don't have the balls to take guns, or even their own protection, seriously?...Stay away from them! But those willing to learn, to practice, to be responsible, to stay sharp? Have at it - it is NOT that tough!

3) I was a gun nut before I was a cop, while I was a cop, and remain one after I was a cop. I shot ALL THE time, and still shoot ALOT; as did many others in my dept. We were lucky - we had a GREAT sergeant, and lots of ammo. We loved shooting. However, MOST cops are not shooters. Most cops are not special! Most do not have "special training", but maybe 40 hours of theory, 40 hours of range time, and then semi-annual qualification. Sure - I would rather rely on cops then the bad guy - no doubt about it, I know they will bring fire power, I know they have some training, and most do a great job - willingly. Overall though - I would 1st rather rely ON ME! I KNOW I can shoot well. I KNOW I can move and hit mulitiple targets quickly. I KNOW I can draw from concealement and hit what I aim at quickly, with either hand. I KNOW I will go to the range a few times a month, practicing with various weapons and various scenarios. I do NOT know for SURE about anyone else.

4) Any one who isn't honest enough to see the dangers in this world, who doesn't understand the randomness of 1.4 MILLION violent crimes, who thinks stricter gun laws will prevent events like VT & will keep him from being a victim, who isn't willing to do what it takes to be proficient to provide practical defense for himself and his family - is delusional. There are plenty of other sick fucks out there - ALL learning from the likes of Cho. Anyone who so stupidly calls ANYONE else justifiably concerned and willing to provide for their own best security "wimpy" is an ass. Having the balls and the brains to take responsibility for your own defense and the defense of your loved ones isn't some mystical he-man trait to be feared - it should be admired and embraced - especially if YOU are willing to do what it takes to survive such incidents - your life, your kid's lives, your friends' lives, may very well depend on it - and they'll thank you for it.

You are right - guns alone are NOT the solution - and it is NOT simple. Would I trust EVERYONE with a gun? No - or - Hell no! Too much self-responsibility for those who obviously don't like that; and those who think themselves too inept, and so thinks all others must be inept too - probably are indeed incapable of handling it. Yes, a CC holder is usually reactive - but so what? He WILL/MAY die anyway! Die, or more likely, live fighting at least! And yes, shit happens - the armed unknowing good guy might be the 1st one taken out...or he might NOT be. He could be THE one to realize what is going on, and from behind cover fire through the classroom doorway, taking Cho out with 3 quick rounds to the chest, before he gets very far into his massacre. We will never know in this case - but it HAS happened plenty of times before, and could have happened in others.


Here it is - YOU rely on whatever magic your imagination can dream up to protect you and yours. For me? NO THANKS!!! I will rely 1st and foremost on the one I can count on most - on me. All those of us who ARE capable ask, is to give US that same choice, allow US the capability for putting up a worthwhile defense; and NO STUPID laws that restrict us but let Cho reign free. Not only is it a Right we all have, it is reasonable, and sensible.