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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 02:03 PM
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19. No, let's throw guns at this. Maybe some oil and marketing, too.
That's worked so well for us so far. :sarcasm:

We really, really, really don't want to deal with mental health in this country. And we really, really, really don't know shit about building community or why that might be a more powerful move than throwing guns, oil or marketing at every damn problem that comes down the pike.
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  -Imagine you are in a situation with a crazed shooter.... Wetzelbill  Apr-24-07 11:49 AM   #0 
  - Well, you'll be hearing the standard lines.  Buzz Clik   Apr-24-07 11:55 AM   #1 
  - Best argument I've ever read  mzteris   Apr-24-07 12:00 PM   #2 
  - You mean like this guy?  geardaddy   Apr-24-07 01:21 PM   #13 
     - lol -  mzteris   Apr-24-07 02:35 PM   #22 
        - Thanks!  geardaddy   Apr-24-07 02:48 PM   #23 
  - You are spot-on, Wetzelbill  rhiannon55   Apr-24-07 12:03 PM   #3 
  - I Hear The NRA Is Already Drafting Plans For A Back To School Gun Sale......nt  global1   Apr-24-07 12:30 PM   #4 
  - Yep. When you end up a situation like that, the reptile brain takes over.  meldroc   Apr-24-07 12:37 PM   #5 
  - Agreed  Bright Eyes   Apr-24-07 12:41 PM   #6 
  - K&R. I totally agree. When you have lots of volatile people carrying guns,  raccoon   Apr-24-07 12:51 PM   #7 
  - I am still trying to comprehend people who would wear multiple coats  bleedingheart   Apr-24-07 01:05 PM   #8 
  - People with handguns usually "only think from the wrist down" in crisis  ehrnst   Apr-24-07 01:10 PM   #9 
  - Is there some reason people couldn't look into NONLETHAL weapons instead?  eppur_se_muova   Apr-24-07 01:12 PM   #10 
  - Dunno about Virginia but  spoony   Apr-25-07 01:46 AM   #37 
  - Why?  D__S   Apr-25-07 10:29 AM   #55 
  - Here's another scenario.  Gregorian   Apr-24-07 01:12 PM   #11 
  - Oooh good point  underpants   Apr-24-07 01:16 PM   #12 
  - The other shooters don't have the original shooters motives.  Gregorian   Apr-24-07 01:32 PM   #15 
  - Everybody who's honest drops their guns and freezes  krispos42   Apr-25-07 03:54 AM   #40 
  - I'm every bit as worried about a stray shot from a bystander as one from the gunman.  davsand   Apr-24-07 01:21 PM   #14 
  - I also found an article about shootings at Appalachian School of Law  pampango   Apr-25-07 06:55 AM   #41 
     - There's several commonalities in those situations that might not be in others -  haele   Apr-25-07 05:16 PM   #72 
  - I know a number of people who I would trust with a handgun  RamboLiberal   Apr-24-07 01:50 PM   #16 
  - Most people who will have guns will have very little experience in a...  Tesha   Apr-24-07 01:59 PM   #18 
  - I have a ccw  Pavulon   Apr-24-07 08:07 PM   #29 
  - Most CCW'ers have more shooting experience than the average  benEzra   Apr-25-07 04:21 PM   #68 
  - yeah see I know people like that too  Wetzelbill   Apr-24-07 02:14 PM   #20 
  - Sorry couldn't get past the kitten thing. that's fucked up.  Javaman   Apr-24-07 01:57 PM   #17 
  - No, let's throw guns at this. Maybe some oil and marketing, too.  sfexpat2000   Apr-24-07 02:03 PM   #19 
  - Whereas in reality, it's more likely to go down this way;  Dr_eldritch   Apr-24-07 02:27 PM   #21 
  - Then the cops come and shoot whoever is holding a gun  IronLionZion   Apr-24-07 03:07 PM   #24 
  - Don't cops usually say.  MiltonF   Apr-24-07 07:44 PM   #27 
  - Snipers don't say very much. nt  IronLionZion   Apr-25-07 07:42 AM   #44 
  - If the reptile brain doesn't take over...  meldroc   Apr-25-07 10:25 AM   #52 
  - On TV, yes. In an active-shooter situation, probably not.  benEzra   Apr-25-07 06:23 PM   #75 
  - Have any examples of that happening?  Nabeshin   Apr-24-07 08:18 PM   #30 
     - Any examples of a mass shooter being shot by his intended victims?  IronLionZion   Apr-25-07 07:42 AM   #43 
        - See post 41 above.  pampango   Apr-25-07 07:47 AM   #47 
  - excellent post...  marions ghost   Apr-24-07 03:51 PM   #25 
  - The stats I heard last on police gun fights  DarkTirade   Apr-24-07 07:38 PM   #26 
  - Throw cell phones  conscious evolution   Apr-24-07 07:57 PM   #28 
  - That's not quite how it went down for Damon Wells...  Nabeshin   Apr-24-07 08:41 PM   #31 
  - yeah anybody who is so insecure that they have to  Wetzelbill   Apr-24-07 10:20 PM   #32 
     - "Firearms are worthless in personal combat?"  Nabeshin   Apr-24-07 10:43 PM   #33 
     - Yeah I just made a few calls  Wetzelbill   Apr-25-07 12:04 AM   #35 
     - You're singing my song!  zanne   Apr-25-07 07:44 AM   #45 
     - It's a foolish person who brings a knife to a gunfight.  D__S   Apr-25-07 11:01 AM   #57 
  - Thank you Bill.  Gormy Cuss   Apr-24-07 10:45 PM   #34 
  - "if I had a weapon on me and tried to pull it out "  spoony   Apr-25-07 01:41 AM   #36 
  - It's actually forty percent  Wetzelbill   Apr-25-07 07:39 AM   #42 
  - k+r  Blue_Tires   Apr-25-07 01:50 AM   #38 
  - I may be wrong...  MiltonF   Apr-25-07 02:47 AM   #39 
  - Interesting musings, but some details lacking, and some BS intertwined.  jmg257   Apr-25-07 07:45 AM   #46 
  - no bullshit at all intertwined  Wetzelbill   Apr-25-07 08:35 AM   #48 
     - Bill, I think maybe some of them might have had time to draw a gun.  davsand   Apr-25-07 10:08 AM   #49 
     - oh yeah  Wetzelbill   Apr-25-07 10:18 AM   #50 
     - This isn't some Jedi power. It is NOT that hard to accomplish.  jmg257   Apr-25-07 11:34 AM   #59 
     - Cho was shooting for NINE MINUTES...  benEzra   Apr-25-07 06:17 PM   #74 
     - Fair enough - but still 2 points of contention.  jmg257   Apr-25-07 11:24 AM   #58 
        - no that's cool  Wetzelbill   Apr-25-07 02:38 PM   #66 
  - The guy who shot the kittens  sleebarker   Apr-25-07 10:19 AM   #51 
  - Yeah, that really bothered me too.  raccoon   Apr-25-07 10:27 AM   #53 
  - See - now here is someone who shouldn't have a gun. WIlling to kill over kittens.  jmg257   Apr-25-07 11:35 AM   #60 
  - I brought this up with people after the Colin Ferguson thing...  JHB   Apr-25-07 10:28 AM   #54 
  - Unintentionally funny talking point....  AngryOldDem   Apr-25-07 10:43 AM   #56 
  - What's funny? That the shooter died before killing any others?  jmg257   Apr-25-07 11:39 AM   #61 
  - There was an incident at a college in Grundy, VA in 2002  pampango   Apr-25-07 11:55 AM   #63 
  - Agreed.  SOteric   Apr-25-07 11:46 AM   #62 
  - The Words of a Witness at the Texas Restaurant Shootings  Hidden Stillness   Apr-25-07 12:07 PM   #64 
  - The dead students probably felt differently.  Wcross   Apr-25-07 12:15 PM   #65 
  - that's pretty creepy that you would presume to know how they would think  Wetzelbill   Apr-25-07 02:56 PM   #67 
  - "I know people who do stupid shit with guns all the time"  depakid   Apr-25-07 04:23 PM   #69 
  - "all victories, from the mighty or weak, are all given to chance"  ends_dont_justify   Apr-25-07 04:26 PM   #70 
  - It's odd, I think, that people want their gun rights, but not the well regulated part.  MissMarple   Apr-25-07 05:03 PM   #71 
  - People like me who carry just want the chance to save our lives should the SHTF  aikoaiko   Apr-25-07 05:37 PM   #73 

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