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125. There are plenty of teaching jobs...
except that they are not in the plush white suburban school districts near major urban areas where you likely grew up.

If you want to teach in THOSE kind of places, you should learn to be an awesome coach or have an inside track with HR at your local district. OR, you could learn to teach an area with a true need such as Special Ed or behavior disorders. If you feel like you do not have the patience and tolerance for that kind of work and those types of students, you should likely reconsider teaching as a career all together.

Otherwise, you could move to a rural district or an urban core district where there is a need for teachers.

Check out Teacher-Teacher.com. I get e-mails from them all the time looking for teachers.
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  -Train new teachers? There are 100K unemployed engineers and scientists that could use the jobs thunder rising  Jan-07-10 11:17 PM   #0 
  - They're unqualified, don't you know  LearnedHand   Jan-07-10 11:22 PM   #1 
  - Make them take 4 years of 'education' classes! Ugh!  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:25 PM   #6 
  - Your sarcasm smiley is unnecessary  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:29 PM   #18 
  - Won't work.  cloudbase   Jan-07-10 11:45 PM   #51 
     - It's very sad that an educational degree  LearnedHand   Jan-07-10 11:52 PM   #66 
  - Actually trying to teach without actually learning how to teach is a recipe for disaster  MadHound   Jan-07-10 11:23 PM   #2 
  - I call BS on that. I have taught 2nd graders and Jr high. My students scored higher on every test.  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:27 PM   #11 
  - Bullshit  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:31 PM   #20 
  - Let's see there are 2 factors, first the subject matter and 2nd the ability to teach  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:34 PM   #26 
  - You don't know squat about jr high kids OR 2nd graders  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:35 PM   #31 
  - do too ... do not .. apparently one of us knows 2nd grade.  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:41 PM   # 
  - I'm sure you know a lot about it since it's obvious you spent more than a year or two  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:44 PM   #48 
  - Yet again, I'm floored by your deep insight and gift of the language. Please continue...  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:51 PM   #64 
  - I know that from what I've seen of your responses to this sub-thread, you'd lose all  cherokeeprogressive   Jan-08-10 12:16 AM   #85 
  - Can I watch?  LWolf   Jan-08-10 10:49 AM   #123 
  - Oh, I know about life outside the classroom,  MadHound   Jan-07-10 11:41 PM   #42 
  - Touché MadHound:  Dinger   Jan-07-10 11:53 PM   #67 
  - These "teachers" are not very gifted at arguement. I guess that comes from Ed classes  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:55 PM   # 
  - I apologize in advance,  TicketyBoo   Jan-08-10 06:40 PM   #138 
     - No need to apologize, I laugh about it all the time,  MadHound   Jan-09-10 07:16 AM   #155 
        - Homer's favorite donuts  TicketyBoo   Jan-09-10 02:14 PM   #162 
  - Tell me what you know about identifying learning issues and meeting the different learning  RayOfHope   Jan-08-10 06:56 AM   #107 
     - Not to mention modifying curriculum to meet the needs of sped kids  Catshrink   Jan-08-10 09:08 PM   #154 
  - + Infinity  Dinger   Jan-07-10 11:50 PM   #61 
  - They act about the same.....  Mopar151   Jan-08-10 12:08 AM   #79 
  - Yeah, right, I have no idea what I'm talking about, what the fuck ever  MadHound   Jan-07-10 11:33 PM   #24 
  - Tunnel vision. Job protection. Whatever?  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:35 PM   #30 
  - No, simply trying to protect kids from idiots who think that because they know the content area  MadHound   Jan-07-10 11:42 PM   #46 
  - But as a non-teacher all you can do is regurgitate what you know  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:35 AM   #130 
  - Try teaching adults in a vocational setting like I did.  cherokeeprogressive   Jan-08-10 12:14 AM   #83 
  - Scored higher than what?  ChoralScholar   Jan-08-10 12:36 AM   #92 
  - Sure they did  PVnRT   Jan-08-10 06:31 AM   #97 
  - As someone who taught for 11 years, and was good at it,  Ms. Toad   Jan-08-10 08:29 AM   #115 
  - Most college professors have no formal training in teaching.  undeterred   Jan-08-10 09:17 AM   #117 
     - and it shows... nt  dtsteelsmith   Jan-08-10 09:54 AM   #121 
        - Sad, but true.  GoCubsGo   Jan-08-10 11:13 AM   #126 
  - Engineers and scientists are grossly over qualified and student are under prepared to learn. n/t  CK_John   Jan-07-10 11:23 PM   #3 
  - I found the kids inquisitive and motivated.  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:49 PM   #58 
  - My high school in Va. Beach had a lot of retired Navy officers teaching. They were very good.  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:24 PM   #4 
  - What High School did you go to?  arcadian   Jan-07-10 11:26 PM   #8 
     - Bayside! Beat FC in tennis twice in my senior year....nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:27 PM   #14 
        - Dang. awesome  arcadian   Jan-07-10 11:55 PM   #70 
           - At least we both hate Cox and PA! Cheers!  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:56 PM   #71 
              - The districts were redrawn  arcadian   Jan-08-10 12:13 AM   #82 
  - They prefer educators  sandnsea   Jan-07-10 11:25 PM   #5 
  - True. But the talent pool needs to be dramatically widened. Folks/women who became  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:27 PM   #12 
  - And women who were mothers  sandnsea   Jan-07-10 11:37 PM   #35 
  - I have several family members who teach elem school and high school. The  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:49 PM   #59 
     - Gee, sounds like the solution is that we need to pay teachers more, like the professionals they are,  MadHound   Jan-08-10 07:08 AM   #109 
        - This is the answer.  Pithlet   Jan-08-10 10:54 AM   #124 
  - A lot of the male teachers 40 years ago were beating the draft  era veteran   Jan-08-10 02:48 PM   #136 
  - And all that and Johnny still can't read or get into college. I'd say something is wrong.  thunder rising   Jan-08-10 12:02 AM   #75 
  - Hey, my ex is a now a first year chemistry teacher.....  Mind_your_head   Jan-07-10 11:25 PM   #7 
  - "foreign recruits"?  frazzled   Jan-07-10 11:26 PM   #9 
  - Oh BS, the local school was filled with Mexicans who can't even teach the kids in English!  JVS   Jan-07-10 11:28 PM   #15 
  - Really? So, I supposed the fantasized H1-B teachers that sign 2 contracts don't exist  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:29 PM   #17 
     - LOL, the dreaded H-1Bs!  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:40 AM   #131 
  - It takes a lot more than knowledge of subject matter to be a good teacher  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:27 PM   #10 
  - There are a lot of certified teachers that have neither. At least an engineer knows the topic.  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:30 PM   #19 
  - What a load of horse pucky  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:34 PM   #28 
  - Engineers and scientists just picked their titles up off gum wrappers?  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:37 PM   #34 
  - Only the ones posting crap like you are posting  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:41 PM   #40 
  - You're really a teacher? Wow, I love your gift of conversation. Does it work in the classroom?  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:44 PM   #49 
     - I'm smart enough not to start asshole threads attacking an entire profession  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:48 PM   #55 
        - I really don't see you a person with your imature debate skills can be a teacher. "Time out chair"?  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:59 PM   #73 
  - Why just engineers and scientists?  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:43 AM   #132 
  - How is it...  FLDCVADem   Jan-08-10 05:48 AM   #95 
  - Because to become a teacher you're doing a lot more than "passing a test"  MadHound   Jan-08-10 07:12 AM   #110 
     - Yes, I understand that  FLDCVADem   Jan-08-10 07:30 AM   #113 
  - Engineers have college degrees, advanced degrees and pass multiple competency tests  Dappleganger   Jan-08-10 08:44 PM   #149 
  - Prove it  PVnRT   Jan-08-10 06:33 AM   #98 
  - What high horse are you riding that...  YvonneCa   Jan-08-10 06:44 PM   #139 
  - that is the key is`t it.....  madrchsod   Jan-07-10 11:36 PM   #32 
  - I study history because of several wonderful HS teachers...  a la izquierda   Jan-08-10 06:55 AM   #106 
  - Knowing how to teach something you don't understand? I'm sorry that's just funny.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-08-10 12:31 AM   #89 
  - It isn't easy but a lot of Engineering professionals have had to teach in their  harun   Jan-08-10 06:26 AM   #96 
  - And again, those engineers that are "teaching" you are dealing with adults, not children  MadHound   Jan-08-10 07:15 AM   #111 
     - Yah, I was thinking more of teaching older people. As an  harun   Jan-08-10 08:49 AM   #116 
  - Agree!  tango-tee   Jan-08-10 07:05 AM   #108 
  - MORE important?  TicketyBoo   Jan-08-10 08:12 PM   #141 
  - Certainly... and the one of the biggest factors is desire to make sure students learn  salin   Jan-08-10 08:52 PM   #153 
  - Why do people assume that pedagogy is not a legitimate requirement to teach?  JVS   Jan-07-10 11:27 PM   #13 
  - Because college professors get NO training, and some are very good. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:28 PM   #16 
  - Most are very good. Some are crap.  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:31 PM   #21 
  - Same as high school. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:32 PM   #22 
     - Students can't drop and join another section in HS  JVS   Jan-07-10 11:41 PM   #44 
        - Good point. n/t  janx   Jan-07-10 11:44 PM   #50 
        - True. But I didn't do that in college. That's only an option in freshman level classes in  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:45 PM   #52 
           - And generally it is accepted that more mature students are capable of doing more work independently.  JVS   Jan-07-10 11:57 PM   #72 
              - I expect it of the 18-year-old freshmen or even high school concurrent  janx   Jan-08-10 12:04 AM   #77 
              - You know what makes a lot of disciplinary issues fall away  JVS   Jan-08-10 12:08 AM   #78 
              - They should be dismissed.  janx   Jan-08-10 12:19 AM   #86 
              - I'm happy I don't teach in such a situation either.  JVS   Jan-08-10 12:23 AM   #87 
                 - That environment has to change.  janx   Jan-08-10 12:34 AM   #90 
              - This is the very reason  TicketyBoo   Jan-08-10 08:24 PM   #142 
              - Oh Janx, to avoid misunderstanding.  JVS   Jan-08-10 12:12 AM   #80 
              - That's exactly my experience. I had the guy that lines the football field draw two huge parallel  thunder rising   Jan-08-10 12:13 AM   #81 
                 - They do--except that I don't refer to my students as kids,  janx   Jan-08-10 12:35 AM   #91 
                    - I called mine 'ladies' and 'gentlemen'. Treated them like adults. I'd also  Captain Hilts   Jan-08-10 06:43 AM   #105 
              - In reference to discipline, yes. But you can't succeed in science and math  Captain Hilts   Jan-08-10 06:41 AM   #104 
  - Damn right--and I'm one of them!  janx   Jan-07-10 11:32 PM   #23 
  - I was one, too. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:34 PM   #25 
  - what do you teach ?  JI7   Jan-07-10 11:34 PM   #27 
     - College English (writing). I work full time but am paid part-time wages.  janx   Jan-07-10 11:37 PM   #33 
        - oh no.....my worst subject!  madrchsod   Jan-07-10 11:39 PM   #37 
           - What is that supposed to mean?  janx   Jan-07-10 11:41 PM   #43 
              - i could graduate from my community college if i could pass 103  madrchsod   Jan-07-10 11:48 PM   #54 
                 - You don't know where I teach.  janx   Jan-07-10 11:53 PM   #68 
                 - Did you take it that way?  TicketyBoo   Jan-08-10 08:29 PM   #144 
                 - Did you take it that way?  TicketyBoo   Jan-08-10 08:29 PM   #145 
                 - Not too old at all  lolly   Jan-08-10 08:46 PM   #151 
  - Many get some training, as graduate students,  janx   Jan-07-10 11:39 PM   #38 
  - I don't know anyone who did. I sure didn't. As a TA I was just tossed  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:47 PM   #53 
     - What was your grad program in and what course did they toss you into?  JVS   Jan-07-10 11:49 PM   #57 
     - I've got better stuft to lie about. Poli Sci. Teaching assistant. No preparation for  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:51 PM   #63 
        - Did they have a course description written and a selection of texts for you, or...  JVS   Jan-08-10 12:01 AM   #74 
           - I did not choose texts. Most were chosen as the semester began. We were given no guidance on  Captain Hilts   Jan-08-10 06:37 AM   #102 
     - But that's not the case with education professors  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:50 PM   #60 
     - That depends on the university and the program and the teacher. There's no rule. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:52 PM   #65 
        - Yes there is at least one rule. The department assigns you something and makes sure you are...  JVS   Jan-08-10 12:03 AM   #76 
           - NO. They do not make sure you are competent. That is most certainly  Captain Hilts   Jan-08-10 06:35 AM   #100 
     - Well...it depends on how one defines training.  janx   Jan-07-10 11:50 PM   #62 
  - That's bullshit. Most professors get apprenticed into teaching and thus get guidance along the way.  JVS   Jan-07-10 11:41 PM   #41 
  - No, that is not true. Perhaps at your university, but not at most. I've  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 11:54 PM   #69 
  - Depends on the university  lolly   Jan-08-10 08:41 PM   #146 
  - Which is actually a problem, especially with TAs who do most of the teaching  PVnRT   Jan-08-10 06:35 AM   #99 
     - In economics and sciences, the language/understanding barrier between TAs and students  Captain Hilts   Jan-08-10 06:38 AM   #103 
  - Because they are ignorant  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 11:42 PM   #45 
  - I agree to a point ,many people who have great skill or  rwheeler31   Jan-07-10 11:35 PM   #29 
  - I personally know 2 unemployed engineers who want to teach math and can't  pissedoff01   Jan-07-10 11:38 PM   #36 
  - Make that 3 ... thunder rising is sitting on the sidelines listening to how their are no teachers  thunder rising   Jan-07-10 11:41 PM   #39 
  - "there," "their" and "they're" are different words  Generic Other   Jan-08-10 08:02 AM   #114 
  - And there are hundreds more who have done the grunt work  tonysam   Jan-08-10 12:25 AM   #88 
  - I know you mean well...  Dappleganger   Jan-08-10 08:46 PM   #152 
  - In the state of Arkansas,  ChoralScholar   Jan-08-10 12:48 AM   #93 
     - That sounds like a good plan.  etherealtruth   Jan-09-10 08:34 AM   #157 
  - now if we had universal health-care and a government investment program....  madrchsod   Jan-07-10 11:43 PM   #47 
  - Unrec (nt)  Dinger   Jan-07-10 11:48 PM   #56 
  - Stay the hell out of education--Please  tonysam   Jan-08-10 12:15 AM   #84 
  - Then why are the school districts importing H1-Bs?  thunder rising   Jan-08-10 05:40 AM   #94 
     - Please provide evidence of your claim  PVnRT   Jan-08-10 06:36 AM   #101 
        - A few districts are actually hiring Filipinos to take spec ed jobs  tonysam   Jan-08-10 09:43 AM   #118 
        - Here's a list of many specialties; including special ed and math  thunder rising   Jan-08-10 11:23 AM   #127 
  - It depends on how motivated and how much they would like/love to teach. I had  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-08-10 07:18 AM   #112 
  - It can also depend on what  TicketyBoo   Jan-08-10 08:42 PM   #147 
  - School districts across the country recruit Filipino teachers to fill shortages in math, science :  pissedoff01   Jan-08-10 09:47 AM   #119 
  - New interesting question  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:49 AM   #133 
  - I think it would be fine to use anyone with at least a bachelor's degree  ddeclue   Jan-08-10 09:50 AM   #120 
  - Why do you assume that teachers are "trained"  LWolf   Jan-08-10 10:48 AM   #122 
  - There are plenty of teaching jobs...  The Midway Rebel   Jan-08-10 10:57 AM   #125 
  - I know it is hard to shake the media propaganda of lots of teaching jobs,  tonysam   Jan-08-10 06:49 PM   #140 
     - Article dead link: error 404  The Midway Rebel   Jan-09-10 11:51 AM   #161 
  - My experience with Engineers  BlueCollar   Jan-08-10 11:31 AM   #128 
  - I beg to differ!  janx   Jan-09-10 10:58 AM   #159 
     - "...and some of the students there are very good at it."  BlueCollar   Jan-09-10 08:57 PM   #163 
  - Where is this coming from?  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:33 AM   #129 
  - well i am an engineer and I have taught adults and children informally  dugaresa   Jan-08-10 11:55 AM   #134 
  - You agree with Governor Daniels's Supt. of Education  AwakeAtLast   Jan-08-10 02:03 PM   #135 
  - Aren't we supposed to have an engineering shortage right now?  anonymous171   Jan-08-10 02:49 PM   #137 
  - There aren't any teaching jobs to be had right now.  LeftyMom   Jan-08-10 08:26 PM   #143 
  - My husband is way overqualified  Dappleganger   Jan-08-10 08:43 PM   #148 
  - haven't heard of schools hiring cheap foreign recruits in the midwest...  salin   Jan-08-10 08:45 PM   #150 
  - They would ALL have to become State certified anyway and get paid at union scale.  DailyGrind51   Jan-09-10 08:09 AM   #156 
     - sounds about right.  salin   Jan-09-10 09:57 AM   #158 
  - "Engineers make great teachers because they actually know WHY the science is used."  dysfunctional press   Jan-09-10 11:06 AM   #160 
 

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