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Response to Reply #130
132. Then let me change the third refrain to...
"It's only been a year!"
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  -It's amazing how many liberals want a dictator Radical Activist  Jan-07-10 11:01 PM   #0 
  - Bulshit.  jobycom   Jan-07-10 11:03 PM   #1 
  - Yes, he fights on behalf of the people  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:06 PM   #7 
  - Who has he fought for? Show me the fight.  Luminous Animal   Jan-07-10 11:33 PM   #46 
  - We did fight in 2006 and 2008  Juche   Jan-08-10 03:09 AM   #93 
  - Obama has fought for the banksters, the health insurance industry, the military industrial complex.  chimpymustgo   Jan-08-10 06:59 AM   #101 
  - hey, he really put up a big fight for a public option, didn't he? even "promising" not to sign  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 03:11 PM   #174 
  - How about the people putting up a little fight?  shawcomm   Jan-07-10 11:17 PM   # 
  - Too many excuses.  jobycom   Jan-07-10 11:20 PM   #26 
  - So maybe he did and couldn't get them to go along  treestar   Jan-08-10 12:01 PM   #157 
  - Exactly, and since it is by state/district, that conflicts naturally with  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:53 AM   #151 
  - Are you going to help or just complain?  rwheeler31   Jan-07-10 11:18 PM   #24 
  - Well I'm not going to shut up or make excuses while it all slips away, if that's what you want.  jobycom   Jan-07-10 11:23 PM   #33 
     - Obama doesn't control Congress!  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:25 PM   #37 
        - Name me one president that didn't lobby Congress to get their agenda passed  PVnRT   Jan-08-10 06:23 AM   #96 
        - you lie!  hfojvt   Jan-08-10 02:12 PM   #168 
        - Sit back and let things go?  greenbird   Jan-08-10 05:15 PM   # 
        - Seems like we elected...  V_Byl   Jan-08-10 11:53 AM   #152 
        - Yes.  Radical Activist   Jan-09-10 11:49 PM   #206 
        - The authoritarians expect the Demcrats to march in lockstep  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:59 AM   #156 
        - The people do? Seriously, you've been here this long and you think the people control Congress?  jobycom   Jan-08-10 12:19 PM   #161 
           - Voters had this coversation during the primary.  Radical Activist   Jan-09-10 11:40 PM   #205 
  - When was the last time you saw or heard of a General leading the troops in an assault up the hill?  Winterblues   Jan-08-10 10:11 AM   #109 
  - What?  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:51 AM   #149 
     - please link me to instances where Obama made a strong case for a public option  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 03:23 PM   #176 
  - You're right, he's completely powerless to push for real change  DJ13   Jan-07-10 11:03 PM   #2 
  - +1  Jamastiene   Jan-08-10 01:26 AM   #91 
  - +++1 yes, those who said he was "too inexperienced" were right  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 03:27 PM   #177 
  - Best counter-argument.  Political Heretic   Jan-08-10 05:05 PM   #181 
  - When Obama repeatedly said change comes from efforts by the people  Radical Activist   Jan-09-10 11:36 PM   #203 
  - Nail on head.  tabatha   Jan-07-10 11:03 PM   #3 
  - More hyperbolic bullshit designed to attack liberals,  MadHound   Jan-07-10 11:04 PM   #4 
  - You don't think we need to put pressure on the Senate  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:07 PM   #9 
  - I think that your claim that liberals want a dictator is hyperbolic bullshit,  MadHound   Jan-07-10 11:10 PM   #12 
     - Did I write ALL liberals or liberals in general? No.  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:14 PM   #17 
     - Actually yes, you did, so stop trying to weasel your way out with a lie  MadHound   Jan-07-10 11:20 PM   #25 
        - Try valium or pot or something.  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:22 PM   # 
           - Ah yes, here comes the condescending rejoinder to try and deflect criticism away from yourself  MadHound   Jan-07-10 11:29 PM   #39 
              - I gave you a thoughtful response in reply 12.  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:33 PM   #44 
                 - Given that I wrote post number twelve in this thread,  MadHound   Jan-07-10 11:34 PM   #47 
                    - Fine. #17  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:40 PM   #52 
                    - wow, he typed the wrong number. boy, you sure showed your superiority to him.  dionysus   Jan-08-10 10:45 AM   #121 
     - not all liberals. he's clearly speaking about a subset of DU... not all liberals are running around  dionysus   Jan-08-10 10:44 AM   #120 
     - Then why aren't you madder at your Senators than Obama?  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:55 AM   #154 
  - +1  alittlelark   Jan-08-10 12:50 AM   #83 
  - Right, because FDR, Truman and LBJ were dictators  rockymountaindem   Jan-07-10 11:06 PM   #5 
  - There are no more LBJ's.  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:57 PM   #72 
  - Talk about irony-  depakid   Jan-07-10 11:06 PM   #6 
  - Radical Activist? Che?  DisgustipatedinCA   Jan-07-10 11:06 PM   #8 
  - And Lenin is pro-imperialism now. And the Zapatistas are shilling for ConAgra.  readmoreoften   Jan-07-10 11:18 PM   #23 
  - Fidel has a contract with Dodge, not GM  PVnRT   Jan-08-10 06:25 AM   #97 
     - Awesome. I want a Castro Edition Durango  DisgustipatedinCA   Jan-08-10 02:25 PM   #171 
  - He has a lot more power than you give him credit.  Moochy   Jan-07-10 11:08 PM   #10 
  - I think people have the power  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:11 PM   #14 
     - How do you organize  Juche   Jan-08-10 03:24 AM   #94 
  - Wow. Haven't seen you around here in awhile!  janx   Jan-07-10 11:09 PM   #11 
  - Snowed in.  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:23 PM   #34 
  - Most of the Western democracies are more autocratic  andym   Jan-07-10 11:10 PM   #13 
  - True.  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:35 PM   #48 
  - Jesus fuck. There is no reason to treat people here like children.  Luminous Animal   Jan-07-10 11:11 PM   #15 
  - BS  tabatha   Jan-07-10 11:12 PM   #16 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 11:17 PM   #21 
  - What is Everclear? I have no idea.  tabatha   Jan-07-10 11:27 PM   #38 
     - There are practically no voices supporting Obama  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:30 PM   #41 
     - We don't generally relish supporting people who lie to our faces.  Zhade   Jan-07-10 11:44 PM   #59 
     - But wait!  PVnRT   Jan-08-10 06:27 AM   #98 
     - There has not been one filibuster. Only threats.  Luminous Animal   Jan-07-10 11:41 PM   #53 
        - Yes! Make Republicans filibuster.  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:43 PM   #58 
        - see #67  tabatha   Jan-07-10 11:53 PM   #69 
           - # 67 is incorrect. That you both can't tell the difference between cloture and filibuster  Luminous Animal   Jan-08-10 12:02 AM   #75 
              - See #105.  tabatha   Jan-08-10 07:35 AM   #104 
        - Filibusters skyrocket under Republican minority in 110th Congress.  tabatha   Jan-07-10 11:52 PM   #67 
           - If you'd actually look at the graph it specfically tracks CLOTURES.  Luminous Animal   Jan-08-10 12:00 AM   #73 
              - Nope.  tabatha   Jan-08-10 07:33 AM   #103 
                 - Invoking cloture is a method of avoiding a filibuster.  Luminous Animal   Jan-08-10 10:02 AM   #107 
                    - Obama: Republican filibustering 'unheard of'  tabatha   Jan-08-10 10:11 AM   #110 
                       - Please show me one incidence of an actual filibuster in this Congress.  Luminous Animal   Jan-08-10 10:41 AM   #117 
                          - Why did Obama, Axelrod say that the number of filibusters  tabatha   Jan-08-10 10:50 AM   #127 
                             - I don't know why they pretend that a threat is reality.  Luminous Animal   Jan-08-10 11:01 AM   #131 
                                - Well, maybe if someone says they are going to filibuster  tabatha   Jan-08-10 11:48 AM   #147 
  - BS? More Like B.T. Who is Billy Tauzin ? President of PhRMA?  Moochy   Jan-07-10 11:21 PM   #30 
     - see #38  tabatha   Jan-07-10 11:33 PM   #45 
        - BT met with the White House  Moochy   Jan-07-10 11:38 PM   #49 
           - Do me a favor -  tabatha   Jan-07-10 11:48 PM   #65 
              - What do they have to do with President of Big PHARMA visiting the White House?  Moochy   Jan-08-10 12:02 AM   #74 
                 - Obama said everyone would have a seat at the table.  tabatha   Jan-08-10 07:36 AM   #105 
                    - I guess he did not say how many times he'd set the table for the Big PhARMA  Moochy   Jan-08-10 10:28 AM   #112 
                       - Well, if you know what was said ....  tabatha   Jan-08-10 10:40 AM   #116 
                          - Well I don't need clairvoyance to see the Shifting Positions  Moochy   Jan-08-10 11:14 AM   #139 
                             - What were the shifting positions re Pharma?  tabatha   Jan-08-10 11:49 AM   #148 
                                - Really ? At least open your eyes  Moochy   Jan-08-10 12:24 PM   #162 
                                   - Public Option was for Pharma?  tabatha   Jan-08-10 01:36 PM   #165 
                                      - PhARMA was opposed to a Public Option  Moochy   Jan-08-10 01:51 PM   #166 
                                         - The house included the PO in their bill.  tabatha   Jan-08-10 02:28 PM   #172 
  - He didn't get health care and climate change bills through the house?  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:17 PM   #20 
  - Nothing Congress does gets past a President opposed to the legislation  DJ13   Jan-07-10 11:22 PM   #31 
  - No. He didn't. That's not a HEALTH CARE its FORCED INSURANCE.  readmoreoften   Jan-07-10 11:22 PM   #32 
  - With no insurance industry cost controls. Go, team! (n/t)  WorseBeforeBetter   Jan-07-10 11:42 PM   #55 
  - It is on record that he cut deals with Pharma.  Luminous Animal   Jan-07-10 11:32 PM   #43 
     - He put forward a good plan at the state of the union.  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:39 PM   #50 
        - If he has no power...  Luminous Animal   Jan-07-10 11:43 PM   #56 
           - CHECKMATE.  Zhade   Jan-07-10 11:46 PM   #61 
           - strawman  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:48 PM   #64 
           - Because his power is limited  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:48 PM   #63 
           - No one says he has no power. He has limited powers. That is how it  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:57 AM   #155 
              - he has gotten exactly what the billionaires wanted him to get  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 05:05 PM   #180 
  - Yes, but "fucking the people behind closed doors" is what they mean by democracy.  readmoreoften   Jan-07-10 11:21 PM   #29 
  - That is not true and you no it is not true.  rwheeler31   Jan-07-10 11:23 PM   #36 
  - Except We So Often Behave Like Children?  NashVegas   Jan-08-10 10:51 AM   #128 
  - You are so determined to be a victim  treestar   Jan-08-10 11:54 AM   #153 
  - True - I don't care about Obama, and have no interest in making it personal.  Political Heretic   Jan-08-10 05:50 PM   #190 
  - It wasn't even behind closed doors, friend.  Political Heretic   Jan-08-10 05:17 PM   #188 
  - Instead we have a plutocrat who advocates for corporations. Freedom for the Corporations!  readmoreoften   Jan-07-10 11:15 PM   #18 
  - The Obama presidency  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:20 PM   #27 
     - Friendly? Are you seriously that out of touch?  Zhade   Jan-07-10 11:47 PM   #62 
  - In other words: "Don't post anything I disagree with."  tblue   Jan-07-10 11:17 PM   #19 
  - Gladly Unrecommend!  donheld   Jan-07-10 11:17 PM   #22 
  - It's amazing how many whine about those that hold him accountable.  neverforget   Jan-07-10 11:20 PM   #28 
  - Che Guevara would spit on  Starry Messenger   Jan-07-10 11:23 PM   #35 
  - Seriously, it is hard to reconcile the icon with the post.  GreenPartyVoter   Jan-07-10 11:43 PM   #57 
  - Did Che want a mass movement of the people  Radical Activist   Jan-07-10 11:46 PM   #60 
     - His Greatest Hope was to be Turned into an Avatar on a DARPA network  Moochy   Jan-08-10 12:04 AM   #77 
        - lol  Radical Activist   Jan-08-10 12:05 AM   #78 
  - no shit....  fascisthunter   Jan-08-10 11:24 AM   #144 
  - It is not a desire for a dictatorship to expect the President  kevinbgoode   Jan-07-10 11:30 PM   #40 
  - There's no rational basis  Radical Activist   Jan-09-10 11:52 PM   #207 
  - Not A dictator, THEIR dictator. nt  JamesA1102   Jan-07-10 11:32 PM   #42 
  - A week? Check your calendar...  WorseBeforeBetter   Jan-07-10 11:39 PM   #51 
  - Your logic needs work.  Quantess   Jan-07-10 11:41 PM   #54 
  - Given how many DUers spit-shine Castro's shoes.....  proteus_lives   Jan-07-10 11:50 PM   #66 
  - unRec for another liberal bashing post from the message discipline team  laughingliberal   Jan-07-10 11:53 PM   #68 
  - many liberals are also statists  paulsby   Jan-07-10 11:53 PM   #70 
  - yep.  Radical Activist   Jan-10-10 12:20 AM   #216 
  - we gave him the power to change the direction of this country  madrchsod   Jan-07-10 11:57 PM   #71 
  - i never give away my power to change this country to anyone.  Radical Activist   Jan-08-10 12:10 AM   #81 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-08-10 12:02 AM   #76 
  - Hey, Chad's back from vacation!  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-08-10 12:06 AM   #79 
  - is that you saul?  madrchsod   Jan-08-10 12:06 AM   #80 
  - Welcome all, to this month's talking point.  jgraz   Jan-08-10 12:44 AM   #82 
  - And you want SARAH PALIN as President and hate puppies!!!!!1  Bluebear   Jan-08-10 12:58 AM   #88 
     - ROFL!! Perfect! nt  laughingliberal   Jan-08-10 10:05 AM   #108 
  - "Whining" . . .what an idiotic & shallow thing to call people venting their issues.  Bluebear   Jan-08-10 12:51 AM   #84 
  - Guess that one hit home  HughMoran   Jan-08-10 12:56 AM   #86 
     - Dumbest. Argument. Ever.  jgraz   Jan-08-10 01:09 AM   #89 
     - Now, J...You KNOW You Didn't Expect Anything Better.  Toasterlad   Jan-08-10 07:20 PM   #194 
        - At least he picked an appropriate username.  jgraz   Jan-08-10 07:21 PM   #195 
           - So Very True.  Toasterlad   Jan-08-10 07:23 PM   #198 
     - did it ever...  dionysus   Jan-08-10 10:33 AM   #114 
        - I'm Going To Start Calling You "Roll On the Floor Like a Lap Dog Poster".  Toasterlad   Jan-08-10 07:22 PM   #196 
  - Good conversation starter  HughMoran   Jan-08-10 12:55 AM   #85 
  - Your screen name is a joke, right?  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-08-10 12:57 AM   #87 
  - Have you ever noticed how some people here  QC   Jan-08-10 11:21 AM   #142 
  - you nailed it there  fascisthunter   Jan-08-10 11:26 AM   #146 
  - I have indeed noticed that  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-08-10 05:49 PM   #189 
  - Very Nicely Stated, QC  Toasterlad   Jan-08-10 07:25 PM   #199 
  - Sure it does.  Radical Activist   Jan-10-10 12:13 AM   #214 
  - A leader who is not afraid to use the coercive power of the state for his own ends =/= dictator  anonymous171   Jan-08-10 01:11 AM   #90 
  - Bush's imperial presidency created some unrealistic expectations. n/t  moondust   Jan-08-10 02:00 AM   #92 
  - Interesting insight. n/t  Radical Activist   Jan-09-10 11:31 PM   #201 
  - When can you all get it through your heads that Obama wants  mmonk   Jan-08-10 06:04 AM   #95 
  - So his state of the union address and frequent defense of the public option  Radical Activist   Jan-09-10 11:54 PM   #208 
  - Whole-hearted un-rec  GreenMetalFlake   Jan-08-10 06:48 AM   #99 
  - you are someone whose posts I will now regard as a joke  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 06:56 AM   #100 
  - awww, isn't that a pity...  dionysus   Jan-08-10 10:33 AM   #115 
     - another one with Big Thoughts  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 11:17 AM   #140 
  - You don't know..  sendero   Jan-08-10 07:04 AM   #102 
  - Look at all the Chavez apologists.  Odin2005   Jan-08-10 07:52 AM   #106 
  - this is ridiculous  Skittles   Jan-08-10 10:25 AM   #111 
  - No one can cut out the people  Radical Activist   Jan-09-10 11:56 PM   #209 
  - this'll touch a nerve...  dionysus   Jan-08-10 10:31 AM   #113 
  - that little chuckle you feel inside  HughMoran   Jan-08-10 10:42 AM   #118 
     - you can even smell burning hair...  dionysus   Jan-08-10 10:43 AM   #119 
     - .  HughMoran   Jan-08-10 11:04 AM   #133 
        - o shit i need to find one of those for my guitar rig!  dionysus   Jan-08-10 11:05 AM   #136 
     - *snort*  Radical Activist   Jan-10-10 12:23 AM   #217 
  - And it would be much easier if it were me. Day one: Pot legal  shadowknows69   Jan-08-10 10:45 AM   #122 
  - Day two. I'm partying.  shadowknows69   Jan-08-10 10:46 AM   #123 
  - Simply put, "NO," It is increasingly obvious that so-called  Fire1   Jan-08-10 10:48 AM   #124 
  - is that all you got? the 'whining' card?  KG   Jan-08-10 10:49 AM   #125 
  - The Senate is but a small aspect of he problem  blindpig   Jan-08-10 10:49 AM   #126 
  - He's just taken office! He hasn't been in 100 days yet! It hasn't even been a year!  joeybee12   Jan-08-10 10:52 AM   #129 
  - It's pretty much been a year.  shadowknows69   Jan-08-10 10:55 AM   #130 
  - Then let me change the third refrain to...  joeybee12   Jan-08-10 11:03 AM   #132 
     - We do have that "it's only been 13 months" to look forward to.  shadowknows69   Jan-08-10 11:04 AM   #134 
        - He's only had one term! We need to re-elect him, becasue two terms  joeybee12   Jan-08-10 11:23 AM   #143 
  - .  HughMoran   Jan-08-10 11:05 AM   #135 
  - they pretend not to get: it's not what he hasn't done yet, it's the lies and BS already done  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 11:14 AM   #138 
  - Sadly, "the people" can change almost nothing in the US  Doctor_J   Jan-08-10 11:07 AM   #137 
  - what idiotic flame baiting garbage  fascisthunter   Jan-08-10 11:19 AM   #141 
  - I enjoy the irony  Radical Activist   Jan-09-10 11:33 PM   #202 
  - Unrec  Individualist   Jan-08-10 11:24 AM   #145 
  - Nope, I just want a REAL liberal in charge...in the WH and as the speaker.  krabigirl   Jan-08-10 11:51 AM   #150 
  - Count your blessings. Our multiple choice test isnt. EVER. Or ever will be.  Gman2   Jan-08-10 12:06 PM   #160 
  - Obama is a dictator...  Kansas Wyatt   Jan-08-10 12:01 PM   #158 
  - +100 yes, he can get what he wants--but we're supposed to think he's weak & helpless  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 03:02 PM   #173 
  - You only need to look at the death of the Dorgan amendment to see the truth of this  jgraz   Jan-08-10 04:44 PM   #178 
     - & don't get me started on that republican, rahm  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 05:01 PM   #179 
  - Ahhh, the hyperbole of the comfortable. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jan-08-10 05:06 PM   #182 
  - Care to explain that?  Kansas Wyatt   Jan-08-10 06:44 PM   #191 
     - If you think Obama is a dictator you're clueless as to what the word means. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jan-08-10 06:50 PM   #192 
        - I guess you have to live in America to comprehend the term, since the Village Idiot was President.  Kansas Wyatt   Jan-08-10 07:23 PM   #197 
  - How could Obama have  Radical Activist   Jan-09-10 11:29 PM   #200 
  - And the Repukes are using them as a wedge. Concern trolling for  Gman2   Jan-08-10 12:04 PM   #159 
  - where was Obama's "ready response" team when the teabaggers took over his msg?  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 05:09 PM   #184 
  - DAMN! Ran out of popcorn. Can someone refill my bowl?  ItNerd4life   Jan-08-10 12:26 PM   #163 
  - Yes, but not with popcorn  Radical Activist   Jan-10-10 12:03 AM   #210 
  - True.  mzmolly   Jan-08-10 12:48 PM   #164 
  - A dictator or a magician.  silverweb   Jan-08-10 02:06 PM   #167 
  - I'm beginning to notice that...  LanternWaste   Jan-08-10 02:13 PM   #169 
  - You've just "begun" to notice that???  Political Heretic   Jan-08-10 05:16 PM   #187 
  - I don't think so.  Radical Activist   Jan-10-10 12:06 AM   #211 
  - What a pantload. The grassroots job is to speak up on their own behalf.  EFerrari   Jan-08-10 02:21 PM   #170 
  - People supported him because of his position during his campaign. He is now 180 degrees  Edweird   Jan-08-10 03:17 PM   #175 
  - If change comes from the people, here we are.  donco6   Jan-08-10 05:09 PM   #183 
  - the natives are getting restless, too. what's he going to do about it?  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 05:15 PM   #185 
     - What are WE going to do about it?  Radical Activist   Jan-10-10 12:10 AM   #213 
  - You call it whatever you want. From my vatage point, its a dictatorship right now.  Political Heretic   Jan-08-10 05:15 PM   #186 
  - "Can we accept that Obama doesn't have the power to put more pressure on the Senate?"  Toasterlad   Jan-08-10 07:18 PM   #193 
  - When I look at the appointments he's made  noamnety   Jan-09-10 11:36 PM   #204 
  - No, but this is as bad as a Dictatorship in some ways: We live in a Corporate State.  ShortnFiery   Jan-10-10 12:09 AM   #212 
     - Yes.  Radical Activist   Jan-10-10 12:15 AM   #215 
 

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