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Thu Jan-07-10 03:48 PM
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| 35. I didn't say, "don't read the bill", you ought to learn how to read. nt |
| -Damnit People, IGNORE THE SPIN. Inform yourselves about what the AWFUL "Cadillac Tax" MEANS for YOU |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-07-10 03:14 PM |
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Of course it includes many of us - its meant to control costs |
stray cat |
Jan-07-10 03:16 PM |
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ANd it's an AWFUL idea. Why hit the middle class, rather than taxing the rich to PAY for subsidies? |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-07-10 03:22 PM |
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speaking of awful ideas, subsidies for private health insurance |
Blue State Blues |
Jan-07-10 03:39 PM |
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This bill is just chock full of AWFUL IDEAS. |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-07-10 04:11 PM |
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What a looming backlash at the polls |
indepat |
Jan-07-10 04:42 PM |
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i'm thinking: KILL IT NOW...then implement my ONE PAGE, 5-para. health care refrom bill: |
thotzRthingz |
Jan-07-10 03:48 PM |
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There aren't enough rich to pay for it all |
marshall |
Jan-08-10 01:45 PM |
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the top 1% own 40% of the wealth, yes there is plenty of money just by taxing the rich |
liberation |
Jan-08-10 03:10 PM |
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We all have to pitch in and do our part |
marshall |
Jan-08-10 04:50 PM |
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You hit the nail on the head. "if something is worth doing" |
county worker |
Jan-08-10 06:58 PM |
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It's not us who will be getting more, it's those who have nothing who will get more |
marshall |
Jan-08-10 07:47 PM |
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Isn't that the justification for the mandate? nt |
spoony |
Jan-07-10 03:24 PM |
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Get rid of the health insurance industry's anti-trust exemption to create a market/ give a choice. |
Captain Hilts |
Jan-07-10 03:32 PM |
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How about taxing the rich instead? |
Better Believe It |
Jan-07-10 03:52 PM |
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It's meant to interfere with the kind of healthcare |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-07-10 05:48 PM |
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I currently need a "subsidized" plan |
mdmc |
Jan-08-10 06:54 PM |
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The tax will trickle down and will generate opposition to HCR from an important demographic. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Jan-07-10 03:17 PM |
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I don't get insurance from work, yet I have to pay about 30% tax on all my income |
no limit |
Jan-07-10 03:20 PM |
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Because we, unfortunately, link health care with employment in this country. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-07-10 03:32 PM |
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But me paying taxes does not affect the employers. Taxing those benefits wouldn't either |
no limit |
Jan-07-10 03:53 PM |
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So how do we know |
SoCalNative |
Jan-07-10 03:20 PM |
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So the angst is that uin six years it will hit one in five middle class workers, if not adjusted? |
dmallind |
Jan-07-10 03:20 PM |
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K and R. This is indefensible. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-07-10 03:20 PM |
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Obama would rather tax the middle class lose the next election than tax his rich friends. |
katandmoon |
Jan-07-10 03:21 PM |
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Oh, I was beginning to think that we had one now. |
emsimon33 |
Jan-07-10 03:24 PM |
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You're kidding right?! Have you even read the damn thing!?!? |
uponit7771 |
Jan-07-10 03:39 PM |
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What is WRONG with this man?....Who IS he? |
whathehell |
Jan-08-10 10:05 AM |
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Hard to argue with bullshit like that! |
Egnever |
Jan-07-10 03:22 PM |
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taxing the insurance co side of the equation |
abelenkpe |
Jan-07-10 03:29 PM |
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Because... |
Egnever |
Jan-07-10 03:36 PM |
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85% of what dollars??? They will make an obscene profit somehow. |
boston bean |
Jan-07-10 04:18 PM |
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85% is what they pay now |
GinaMaria |
Jan-08-10 01:48 PM |
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Instead of raising the criminal plans they will lower the better plans |
boston bean |
Jan-07-10 03:22 PM |
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It generates all the wrong incentives. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Jan-07-10 03:32 PM |
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The House plan is the one to go with |
quinnox |
Jan-07-10 03:23 PM |
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Right, because the text of the bill is spin. Oh, and you had to start your own thread because? |
berni_mccoy |
Jan-07-10 03:30 PM |
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Don't just read the bill, understand what it means and what will happen |
boston bean |
Jan-07-10 03:34 PM |
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Do you really hear yourself? "Don't Read The Bill?" No, you'd rather buy spin from the likes of FDL |
berni_mccoy |
Jan-07-10 03:36 PM |
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delete |
uponit7771 |
Jan-07-10 03:40 PM |
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Well, it's quite clear who's misrepresenting and misinterpreting here. |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-07-10 03:42 PM |
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I didn't say, "don't read the bill", you ought to learn how to read. nt |
boston bean |
Jan-07-10 03:48 PM |
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-1 for invoking the bad scary FDL boogyman and for purposely distorting poster's words |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-07-10 04:24 PM |
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Have you answered my questions about how this bill HURTS union workers? |
Kansas Wyatt |
Jan-08-10 09:26 AM |
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Let's see, charter schools and many other anti-union |
JDPriestly |
Jan-08-10 02:01 PM |
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I've seen you start a thread today.. |
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Jan-07-10 03:36 PM |
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Jan-07-10 03:44 PM |
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This is both wrong and politically ignorant, if true. However it will not impact |
mzmolly |
Jan-07-10 03:30 PM |
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uponit7771 |
Jan-07-10 03:38 PM |
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Including most of the authors quoted! |
Egnever |
Jan-07-10 03:39 PM |
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uponit7771 |
Jan-07-10 03:42 PM |
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Hartmann explained it today |
Doctor_J |
Jan-07-10 03:44 PM |
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Want to lose a lot of (D) seats in 2010-2012? Pass this bill. (nt) |
Ignis |
Jan-07-10 04:01 PM |
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... |
tammywammy |
Jan-07-10 04:11 PM |
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DLC , typically if pushed to choose between helping Big Business |
OHdem10 |
Jan-07-10 04:12 PM |
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knr |
Mari333 |
Jan-07-10 04:13 PM |
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K & R. The truth is out there. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 04:45 PM |
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Here's a very important piece of info that most people are not aware of: |
inna |
Jan-07-10 05:26 PM |
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Gay couples will be taxed at the $8,500 because they are not recognized as families |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-07-10 05:50 PM |
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My thoughts exactly. I'm a union member and believe my |
Nordmadr |
Jan-08-10 08:25 AM |
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If that is true, I was going by the |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-08-10 04:30 PM |
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Obama has betrayed |
femrap |
Jan-07-10 07:20 PM |
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How do you screw UNIONS??? They are the BACKBONE of the party. |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-07-10 07:54 PM |
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That is an excellent question. The unions are dead set against this so called "cadillac" tax.. |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-07-10 09:55 PM |
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By taxing their 'Cadilac' |
femrap |
Jan-07-10 10:18 PM |
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Duh, that's the point of the OP. I'm asking, 'how in the world do you make the political |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-08-10 07:42 AM |
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This was the plan all along. |
femrap |
Jan-08-10 12:29 PM |
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I think I agree with you. Obama has been quite brazen in his paybacks to TPTB. |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-09-10 06:49 AM |
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I'm glad I didn't fall |
femrap |
Jan-09-10 09:37 AM |
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they traded the unions in for corporate money |
fascisthunter |
Jan-08-10 12:35 PM |
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The "Cadillac Tax" is a REPUBLICAN proposal. |
bvar22 |
Jan-07-10 08:30 PM |
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From the beginning I think that was fairly obvious |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-09-10 01:56 AM |
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K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-07-10 09:54 PM |
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My health plan costs 50% of the threshold levels |
high density |
Jan-07-10 10:19 PM |
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How does Barack Obama sleep at night? |
DisgustedInMN |
Jan-08-10 07:55 AM |
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He got his |
Missy Vixen |
Jan-08-10 09:38 AM |
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I went door to door in RFK's campaign. |
DisgustedInMN |
Jan-08-10 09:45 AM |
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I wish we lived closer to each other |
Missy Vixen |
Jan-08-10 11:02 AM |
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Al Franken is.. |
DisgustedInMN |
Jan-08-10 12:04 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Jan-08-10 09:55 AM |
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I thought the 'Cadillac Tax' would only affect those who make over 250/k year. |
FarLeftFist |
Jan-08-10 12:37 PM |
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K & R |
AzDar |
Jan-08-10 12:44 PM |
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23K? |
GinaMaria |
Jan-08-10 01:36 PM |
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Oh my oh my. Such a complete chameleon our |
bbgrunt |
Jan-08-10 01:40 PM |
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Whoa, Nelly! |
JDPriestly |
Jan-08-10 01:55 PM |
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First, let me say I have always thought it wrong to tax health insurance. |
Jackpine Radical |
Jan-08-10 02:12 PM |
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You can set up an LLC if you are self-employed. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-08-10 03:05 PM |
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But I think you can set up a flexplan account |
Jackpine Radical |
Jan-08-10 03:09 PM |
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As that kind of plan was presented to me at the time, |
JDPriestly |
Jan-08-10 06:47 PM |
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Yes, you had to spend the amount in the account-- |
Jackpine Radical |
Jan-08-10 09:19 PM |
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As that kind of plan was presented to me at the time, |
JDPriestly |
Jan-08-10 06:49 PM |
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What's wrong with going back to a pre-Reagan 70% tax on the Uber-rich? |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-08-10 03:00 PM |
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They will have to go from 10 vacation homes down to just 8, that is what's wrong! |
liberation |
Jan-08-10 03:14 PM |
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I've been saying this all along |
RoccoR5955 |
Jan-08-10 03:04 PM |
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It means nothing to me |
quaker bill |
Jan-08-10 03:49 PM |
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I had another idea about how to pay for reform and it would generate |
Vinca |
Jan-08-10 04:59 PM |
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The House has a plan to tax those 500k and up |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-09-10 06:13 AM |
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