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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 03:29 PM
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14. taxing the insurance co side of the equation
surely won't lead to them reducing benefits or passing that cost on to customers because....??

Is there a law restricting insurance companies from passing those costs on to consumers? Some kind of regulation that protects people?
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  -Damnit People, IGNORE THE SPIN. Inform yourselves about what the AWFUL "Cadillac Tax" MEANS for YOU chimpymustgo  Jan-07-10 03:14 PM   #0 
  - Of course it includes many of us - its meant to control costs  stray cat   Jan-07-10 03:16 PM   #1 
  - ANd it's an AWFUL idea. Why hit the middle class, rather than taxing the rich to PAY for subsidies?  chimpymustgo   Jan-07-10 03:22 PM   #9 
  - speaking of awful ideas, subsidies for private health insurance  Blue State Blues   Jan-07-10 03:39 PM   #27 
  - This bill is just chock full of AWFUL IDEAS.  chimpymustgo   Jan-07-10 04:11 PM   #41 
     - What a looming backlash at the polls  indepat   Jan-07-10 04:42 PM   #46 
  - i'm thinking: KILL IT NOW...then implement my ONE PAGE, 5-para. health care refrom bill:  thotzRthingz   Jan-07-10 03:48 PM   #36 
  - There aren't enough rich to pay for it all  marshall   Jan-08-10 01:45 PM   #74 
     - the top 1% own 40% of the wealth, yes there is plenty of money just by taxing the rich  liberation   Jan-08-10 03:10 PM   #83 
        - We all have to pitch in and do our part  marshall   Jan-08-10 04:50 PM   #87 
           - You hit the nail on the head. "if something is worth doing"  county worker   Jan-08-10 06:58 PM   #92 
              - It's not us who will be getting more, it's those who have nothing who will get more  marshall   Jan-08-10 07:47 PM   #93 
  - Isn't that the justification for the mandate? nt  spoony   Jan-07-10 03:24 PM   #12 
  - Get rid of the health insurance industry's anti-trust exemption to create a market/ give a choice.  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 03:32 PM   #17 
  - How about taxing the rich instead?  Better Believe It   Jan-07-10 03:52 PM   #37 
  - It's meant to interfere with the kind of healthcare  sabrina 1   Jan-07-10 05:48 PM   #49 
  - I currently need a "subsidized" plan  mdmc   Jan-08-10 06:54 PM   #91 
  - The tax will trickle down and will generate opposition to HCR from an important demographic. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 03:17 PM   #2 
  - I don't get insurance from work, yet I have to pay about 30% tax on all my income  no limit   Jan-07-10 03:20 PM   #3 
  - Because we, unfortunately, link health care with employment in this country.  Hello_Kitty   Jan-07-10 03:32 PM   #18 
     - But me paying taxes does not affect the employers. Taxing those benefits wouldn't either  no limit   Jan-07-10 03:53 PM   #38 
  - So how do we know  SoCalNative   Jan-07-10 03:20 PM   #4 
  - So the angst is that uin six years it will hit one in five middle class workers, if not adjusted?  dmallind   Jan-07-10 03:20 PM   #5 
  - K and R. This is indefensible. eom  Hello_Kitty   Jan-07-10 03:20 PM   #6 
  - Obama would rather tax the middle class lose the next election than tax his rich friends.  katandmoon   Jan-07-10 03:21 PM   #7 
  - Oh, I was beginning to think that we had one now.  emsimon33   Jan-07-10 03:24 PM   #13 
  - You're kidding right?! Have you even read the damn thing!?!?  uponit7771   Jan-07-10 03:39 PM   # 
  - What is WRONG with this man?....Who IS he?  whathehell   Jan-08-10 10:05 AM   #65 
  - Hard to argue with bullshit like that!  Egnever   Jan-07-10 03:22 PM   #8 
  - taxing the insurance co side of the equation  abelenkpe   Jan-07-10 03:29 PM   #14 
     - Because...  Egnever   Jan-07-10 03:36 PM   #23 
        - 85% of what dollars??? They will make an obscene profit somehow.  boston bean   Jan-07-10 04:18 PM   #44 
        - 85% is what they pay now  GinaMaria   Jan-08-10 01:48 PM   #75 
  - Instead of raising the criminal plans they will lower the better plans  boston bean   Jan-07-10 03:22 PM   #10 
  - It generates all the wrong incentives. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-07-10 03:32 PM   #19 
  - The House plan is the one to go with  quinnox   Jan-07-10 03:23 PM   #11 
  - Right, because the text of the bill is spin. Oh, and you had to start your own thread because?  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-10 03:30 PM   #15 
  - Don't just read the bill, understand what it means and what will happen  boston bean   Jan-07-10 03:34 PM   #20 
  - Do you really hear yourself? "Don't Read The Bill?" No, you'd rather buy spin from the likes of FDL  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-10 03:36 PM   #21 
     - delete  uponit7771   Jan-07-10 03:40 PM   #29 
     - Well, it's quite clear who's misrepresenting and misinterpreting here.  chimpymustgo   Jan-07-10 03:42 PM   #31 
     - I didn't say, "don't read the bill", you ought to learn how to read. nt  boston bean   Jan-07-10 03:48 PM   #35 
     - -1 for invoking the bad scary FDL boogyman and for purposely distorting poster's words  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 04:24 PM   #45 
     - Have you answered my questions about how this bill HURTS union workers?  Kansas Wyatt   Jan-08-10 09:26 AM   #61 
        - Let's see, charter schools and many other anti-union  JDPriestly   Jan-08-10 02:01 PM   #77 
  - I've seen you start a thread today..  Fumesucker   Jan-07-10 03:36 PM   #22 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 03:37 PM   #24 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 03:39 PM   # 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 03:42 PM   #32 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 03:40 PM   #28 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 03:44 PM   #33 
  - This is both wrong and politically ignorant, if true. However it will not impact  mzmolly   Jan-07-10 03:30 PM   #16 
  - Deleted  uponit7771   Jan-07-10 03:38 PM   #25 
  - Including most of the authors quoted!  Egnever   Jan-07-10 03:39 PM   #26 
     - deleted and post unrec'd  uponit7771   Jan-07-10 03:42 PM   #30 
  - Hartmann explained it today  Doctor_J   Jan-07-10 03:44 PM   #34 
  - Want to lose a lot of (D) seats in 2010-2012? Pass this bill. (nt)  Ignis   Jan-07-10 04:01 PM   #39 
  - ...  tammywammy   Jan-07-10 04:11 PM   #40 
  - DLC , typically if pushed to choose between helping Big Business  OHdem10   Jan-07-10 04:12 PM   #42 
  - knr  Mari333   Jan-07-10 04:13 PM   #43 
  - K & R. The truth is out there.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 04:45 PM   #47 
  - Here's a very important piece of info that most people are not aware of:  inna   Jan-07-10 05:26 PM   #48 
  - Gay couples will be taxed at the $8,500 because they are not recognized as families  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 05:50 PM   #50 
  - My thoughts exactly. I'm a union member and believe my  Nordmadr   Jan-08-10 08:25 AM   #60 
  - If that is true, I was going by the  sabrina 1   Jan-08-10 04:30 PM   #86 
  - Obama has betrayed  femrap   Jan-07-10 07:20 PM   #51 
  - How do you screw UNIONS??? They are the BACKBONE of the party.  chimpymustgo   Jan-07-10 07:54 PM   #52 
     - That is an excellent question. The unions are dead set against this so called "cadillac" tax..  BrklynLiberal   Jan-07-10 09:55 PM   #55 
     - By taxing their 'Cadilac'  femrap   Jan-07-10 10:18 PM   #56 
     - Duh, that's the point of the OP. I'm asking, 'how in the world do you make the political  chimpymustgo   Jan-08-10 07:42 AM   #58 
        - This was the plan all along.  femrap   Jan-08-10 12:29 PM   #68 
           - I think I agree with you. Obama has been quite brazen in his paybacks to TPTB.  chimpymustgo   Jan-09-10 06:49 AM   #98 
              - I'm glad I didn't fall  femrap   Jan-09-10 09:37 AM   #99 
     - they traded the unions in for corporate money  fascisthunter   Jan-08-10 12:35 PM   #69 
  - The "Cadillac Tax" is a REPUBLICAN proposal.  bvar22   Jan-07-10 08:30 PM   #53 
  - From the beginning I think that was fairly obvious  sabrina 1   Jan-09-10 01:56 AM   #95 
  - K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R  BrklynLiberal   Jan-07-10 09:54 PM   #54 
  - My health plan costs 50% of the threshold levels  high density   Jan-07-10 10:19 PM   #57 
  - How does Barack Obama sleep at night?  DisgustedInMN   Jan-08-10 07:55 AM   #59 
  - He got his  Missy Vixen   Jan-08-10 09:38 AM   #62 
     - I went door to door in RFK's campaign.  DisgustedInMN   Jan-08-10 09:45 AM   #63 
        - I wish we lived closer to each other  Missy Vixen   Jan-08-10 11:02 AM   #66 
           - Al Franken is..  DisgustedInMN   Jan-08-10 12:04 PM   #67 
  - Recommend  xchrom   Jan-08-10 09:55 AM   #64 
  - I thought the 'Cadillac Tax' would only affect those who make over 250/k year.  FarLeftFist   Jan-08-10 12:37 PM   #70 
  - K & R  AzDar   Jan-08-10 12:44 PM   #71 
  - 23K?  GinaMaria   Jan-08-10 01:36 PM   #72 
  - Oh my oh my. Such a complete chameleon our  bbgrunt   Jan-08-10 01:40 PM   #73 
  - Whoa, Nelly!  JDPriestly   Jan-08-10 01:55 PM   #76 
  - First, let me say I have always thought it wrong to tax health insurance.  Jackpine Radical   Jan-08-10 02:12 PM   #78 
     - You can set up an LLC if you are self-employed.  JDPriestly   Jan-08-10 03:05 PM   #81 
        - But I think you can set up a flexplan account  Jackpine Radical   Jan-08-10 03:09 PM   #82 
           - As that kind of plan was presented to me at the time,  JDPriestly   Jan-08-10 06:47 PM   #89 
           - Yes, you had to spend the amount in the account--  Jackpine Radical   Jan-08-10 09:19 PM   #94 
           - As that kind of plan was presented to me at the time,  JDPriestly   Jan-08-10 06:49 PM   #90 
  - What's wrong with going back to a pre-Reagan 70% tax on the Uber-rich?  grahamhgreen   Jan-08-10 03:00 PM   #79 
  - They will have to go from 10 vacation homes down to just 8, that is what's wrong!  liberation   Jan-08-10 03:14 PM   #84 
  - I've been saying this all along  RoccoR5955   Jan-08-10 03:04 PM   #80 
  - It means nothing to me  quaker bill   Jan-08-10 03:49 PM   #85 
  - I had another idea about how to pay for reform and it would generate  Vinca   Jan-08-10 04:59 PM   #88 
  - The House has a plan to tax those 500k and up  TheKentuckian   Jan-09-10 06:13 AM   #96 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-09-10 06:19 AM   #97 

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