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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #21
43. "We now have the techniques and the resources to get rid of poverty..."
"The real question is whether we have the will."

Easy to say? Cold? Pushing has no place in this grieving process?

NGU.
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  -I cried on the phone with Senator Reid's office today.... debbierlus  Jan-07-10 12:35 PM   #0 
  - A cowardly unrecommend  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 12:37 PM   #1 
  - Don't take it personal. There are people who unrec everything.  Joanne98   Jan-07-10 12:40 PM   #2 
  - Oh, I don't. I just think some unrecommending is a cowardly act  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 12:44 PM   #8 
  - I normally would have considered unrec-ing something like this  FBaggins   Jan-07-10 12:57 PM   #22 
  - Oh, yes, we absolutely shouldn't share with others our actions and the results.  bobbolink   Jan-07-10 01:06 PM   #33 
  - Sure we should.  FBaggins   Jan-07-10 01:31 PM   #39 
     - You miss the point.  bobbolink   Jan-07-10 01:33 PM   #41 
     - I'm pretty sure it was my point... so it's unlikely I missed it.  FBaggins   Jan-07-10 01:39 PM   #42 
        - "I'm not a fan of "let me tell you how I proved my liberal bona-fides today" posts "  bobbolink   Jan-07-10 01:45 PM   #44 
           - Perhaps we need to grow a thicker skin? hmm?  FBaggins   Jan-07-10 02:09 PM   #48 
           - Yes, lets all get hard and tough and not letting anything affect us.  bobbolink   Jan-07-10 04:47 PM   #77 
              - Not "all"... just those with an unhealthily thin skin  FBaggins   Jan-07-10 04:54 PM   #80 
                 - And YOU get to be the JUDGE. How convenient.  bobbolink   Jan-08-10 05:31 PM   #160 
                 - Says the guy who hopped on to correct others?  FBaggins   Jan-08-10 07:46 PM   #164 
                 - When dealing with a poster who takes censorship as their own personal RIGHT,  bobbolink   Jan-08-10 06:43 PM   #162 
                 - Imaginary personal attacks aren't against the rules.  FBaggins   Jan-08-10 07:48 PM   #165 
                 - Your "offense" is/was censorship of others.  bobbolink   Jan-08-10 06:46 PM   #163 
                    - There was no censorship.  FBaggins   Jan-08-10 07:49 PM   #166 
                       - For the last time..... listen or not, censor or not...it's YOUR deal...  bobbolink   Jan-10-10 03:39 PM   #168 
                          - So you don't actually read what you reply to , eh?  FBaggins   Jan-10-10 08:19 PM   #169 
                             - So, you just lie to get attention, eh?  bobbolink   Jan-11-10 09:33 PM   #170 
                                - Nope. But I'm happy to point out yours  FBaggins   Jan-12-10 01:32 PM   #171 
           - Once again. The PUBLIC OPTION  Enthusiast   Jan-08-10 04:10 AM   #134 
              - That has nothing to do with what I am replying to.  bobbolink   Jan-08-10 05:55 PM   #161 
     - Really?  TicketyBoo   Jan-07-10 03:21 PM   #62 
        - No.. of course not.  FBaggins   Jan-07-10 03:51 PM   #68 
  - Is that how people take these posts?  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 01:53 PM   #46 
     - Obviously not.  FBaggins   Jan-07-10 02:16 PM   #49 
     - Most don't.  Ignis   Jan-07-10 02:32 PM   #53 
     - I e-mailed, called, visited the meetings held by my representative.  JDPriestly   Jan-07-10 08:46 PM   #102 
     - Thanks for trying...  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 10:56 PM   #121 
     - Yeah, the Kabuki Theater really worked better when "we" were in the minority  tavalon   Jan-08-10 04:34 AM   #137 
     - I personally love your post  newspeak   Jan-08-10 11:35 AM   #156 
  - its the censorship "group" here...K&R!!!!!!!!! great thread!! eom  flyarm   Jan-07-10 11:04 PM   #122 
  - the word is "personally" An adverb shortage is present.  Manifestor_of_Light   Jan-07-10 02:25 PM   #52 
  - The UNREC feature is designed to guide DU discussions to more of a....  Raster   Jan-08-10 09:23 AM   #150 
  - Please, don't use the 1st response of your OP to highlight an UnRec.  elocs   Jan-07-10 01:18 PM   #37 
  - -1  FBaggins   Jan-07-10 01:31 PM   #40 
  - I'm curious if now, 4 hours later, you feel at all foolish...  A HERETIC I AM   Jan-07-10 05:09 PM   #81 
     - What do you expect from someone who screams at moviegoers?  Lilith Velkor   Jan-07-10 07:00 PM   # 
     - It was +240 when I first saw it  Autonomy   Jan-07-10 09:26 PM   #105 
     - I respectfully disagree. Unrec'ing without commenting is cowardly. nt  rhett o rick   Jan-07-10 10:10 PM   #113 
     - Oh come on, man  A HERETIC I AM   Jan-07-10 10:35 PM   #119 
        - You have some good points. And my use of coward was too strong.  rhett o rick   Jan-07-10 11:43 PM   #128 
     - I think it is cowardly  Mojorabbit   Jan-08-10 12:49 AM   #131 
        - The problem with the way it used to be, and this has been stated over and over...  A HERETIC I AM   Jan-08-10 01:47 AM   #132 
        - And that is exactly what I do to this day  tavalon   Jan-08-10 04:41 AM   #138 
  - off to greatest with you. please let us know if you actually get any sort of real, understanding  niyad   Jan-07-10 12:41 PM   #3 
  - K&R  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 12:41 PM   #4 
  - Thank you, thank you, thank you!  inna   Jan-07-10 12:42 PM   #5 
  - KO had it right the other day in calling boortz a terrorist, and pointing out that yet another 122  niyad   Jan-07-10 12:43 PM   #6 
  - Call and tell them that - they need to hear it  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 12:45 PM   #10 
     - believe me, I do.  niyad   Jan-07-10 12:48 PM   #13 
  - Thank you for doing that.  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-07-10 12:44 PM   #7 
  - I call, I write..  DisgustedInMN   Jan-07-10 12:44 PM   #9 
  - I know. Call again. We can fight another day for our rights against them, if we must  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 12:46 PM   #11 
  - What's left? Never Give Up.  ClassWarrior   Jan-07-10 12:48 PM   #12 
  - With all..  DisgustedInMN   Jan-07-10 12:53 PM   #17 
  - Very well said. Slogans are so easy to say. And also cold.  bobbolink   Jan-07-10 12:57 PM   #21 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-07-10 01:05 PM   #30 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-07-10 01:17 PM   #36 
  - "We now have the techniques and the resources to get rid of poverty..."  ClassWarrior   Jan-07-10 01:42 PM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 12:57 PM   #24 
  - "Carry on" doing exactly what?  DisgustedInMN   Jan-07-10 01:03 PM   #29 
  - Barry?  ClassWarrior   Jan-07-10 02:00 PM   #47 
  - It's pretty hard not to feel silly for having been taken in by a slogan  tavalon   Jan-08-10 04:49 AM   #140 
     - This was and is a very dangerous thing.  MuseRider   Jan-08-10 11:51 AM   #157 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 01:07 PM   #34 
  - The thing is, they want us to give up and shut up  tavalon   Jan-08-10 04:46 AM   #139 
  - NGU  rhett o rick   Jan-07-10 11:23 PM   #126 
  - There were a couple of guys on Moyers who were calling for a revolution  Lorien   Jan-07-10 05:11 PM   #82 
     - There is a way to revolt if this bill passes. Don't buy  sabrina 1   Jan-07-10 06:25 PM   #91 
     - It will happen. It is just a matter of how far we have to fall and how bad things have to get  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 09:54 PM   #109 
  - Thank you. You are very brave.  tblue   Jan-07-10 12:49 PM   #14 
  - Have you ever met in person with any of your own Reps or Senators? If you want to have an impact  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-10 12:49 PM   #15 
  - Better yet, gather together a group.  bobbolink   Jan-07-10 12:54 PM   #18 
  - Yeah, they don't take kindly to a mob coming to their office. Invite them to a forum however  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-10 12:56 PM   #20 
     - I wasn't suggesting a "mob". Organizations have legitimate right to request meeting with a rep.  bobbolink   Jan-07-10 12:59 PM   #26 
     - We in Minnesota know that this doesn't work with Amy Klobuchar  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-07-10 03:10 PM   #59 
        - I'm unfortunately not familiar with Klobuchar . . . but wondering how she got elected?  defendandprotect   Jan-07-10 04:51 PM   #79 
           - The Republican (Mark Kennedy) Klobuchar ran against was a right wing type  dflprincess   Jan-07-10 05:18 PM   #83 
              - Thank you for the educational update ...  defendandprotect   Jan-07-10 07:08 PM   #97 
              - A lot of that...  onpatrol98   Jan-08-10 09:13 AM   #147 
  - Yes. I have. And he is the majority leader of the Senate, so he damn well is my representative  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 12:57 PM   #23 
     - I'm not arguing against what you're doing. But most effective activism starts with your own rep.  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-10 02:50 PM   #55 
  - Recommended. Glad you got through.  mmonk   Jan-07-10 12:53 PM   #16 
  - On the first ring...that is very disturbing....  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 12:58 PM   #25 
     - Yes. It means little or no pressure at this critical time.  mmonk   Jan-07-10 01:06 PM   #31 
        - We have a very disengaged population as a whole...Recent Senate primary in MA shows that...  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 01:17 PM   #35 
           - I think when the public is very discouraged they do not come out to vote . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-07-10 04:42 PM   #74 
           - Well  Enthusiast   Jan-08-10 04:17 AM   #135 
              - Agree -- the public understands the corruption . . . that keeps them home ---  defendandprotect   Jan-09-10 10:52 AM   #167 
           - I see this in Germany as well.  tango-tee   Jan-08-10 09:58 AM   #153 
  - Thank you for calling and posting this  laughingliberal   Jan-07-10 12:55 PM   #19 
  - When I was on the phone with Pelosi's office...  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 01:06 PM   #32 
     - For some reason it never occurs to them to do both...  JHB   Jan-08-10 09:18 AM   #149 
  - K&R  bobbolink   Jan-07-10 12:59 PM   #27 
  - Rec, and thanks, OP. nt  old mark   Jan-07-10 01:00 PM   #28 
  - Thanks for the effort. But unless you accompany your call with $10,000  Doctor_J   Jan-07-10 01:30 PM   #38 
  - I understand the sentiment - call anyway  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 01:51 PM   #45 
  - Agree . . . and it's this corporate/fascism we have to overturn . . . we need a Plan B . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-07-10 04:44 PM   #76 
  - Call anyway  tavalon   Jan-08-10 04:54 AM   #141 
  - Money In Escrow  onpatrol98   Jan-08-10 09:18 AM   #148 
     - That's my point. Taking care of sick, poor, interested constituents won't  Doctor_J   Jan-08-10 09:25 AM   #151 
  - K&R  StarfarerBill   Jan-07-10 02:20 PM   #50 
  - Called again - thanks for posting. n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-07-10 02:20 PM   #51 
  - I've known at least three people who had to keep working while they were battling  diane in sf   Jan-07-10 02:44 PM   #54 
  - Obviously, they were not going to leave the Democratic Party intact to  defendandprotect   Jan-07-10 04:48 PM   #78 
  - I am so sorry for your friends...for all of us who can be broken by this system of extortion  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 06:12 PM   #90 
  - First thing you have to understand is...  Javaman   Jan-07-10 02:50 PM   #56 
  - re: Call and do the PDA action alert-- DONE & thanks! (also posted to email & webpage... k&r n/t)  thotzRthingz   Jan-07-10 02:59 PM   #57 
  - K&R  highplainsdem   Jan-07-10 03:01 PM   #58 
  - I called the Speaker's office just now and had a lovely conversation...  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 03:13 PM   #60 
  - I think that's the proper (though perhaps less effective) thing to do.  FBaggins   Jan-07-10 03:42 PM   #65 
     - I was firm but supportive. I predicated on support for the House version  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 03:59 PM   #70 
  - Thank you. Well done.  Vidar   Jan-07-10 03:15 PM   #61 
  - So, Nader was right  omega minimo   Jan-07-10 03:21 PM   #63 
  - Fancy that... he was indeed.  LooseWilly   Jan-07-10 05:27 PM   #84 
  - Maybe the Nader Hating  omega minimo   Jan-07-10 05:59 PM   #89 
     - "organized from the right"? Define the "right".  LooseWilly   Jan-07-10 07:00 PM   #95 
  - Of course he was right. No one has disputed that he wasnt right.  rhett o rick   Jan-07-10 10:16 PM   #115 
  - Thank you rhett o rick  omega minimo   Jan-07-10 10:29 PM   #117 
     - I am a WW II baby-boomer and believe that we were spoiled and easy pickens.  rhett o rick   Jan-07-10 11:31 PM   #127 
  - Nader is right  customerserviceguy   Jan-08-10 07:45 AM   #144 
  - I totally agree with you. I have been blogging and called many  southernyankeebelle   Jan-07-10 03:39 PM   #64 
  - please spellcheck before posting  HowHasItComeToThis   Jan-08-10 12:40 AM   #129 
  - "We are all stunned"..  wroberts189   Jan-07-10 03:43 PM   #66 
  - Profound response  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 08:51 PM   #103 
  - I have called both offices.  TicketyBoo   Jan-07-10 03:46 PM   #67 
  - I shake my head reading this OP. No other way to put it -- I think you're nuts. nt  quiet.american   Jan-07-10 03:54 PM   #69 
  - Wow. What a coincidence...  BrklynLiberal   Jan-07-10 04:29 PM   #72 
  - I am very glad that you took the time to make the all.However  truedelphi   Jan-07-10 04:15 PM   #71 
  - Kick/for call tomorrow ---- Our nation - president and Congress did once earn our trust . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-07-10 04:35 PM   #73 
  - Election fraud awareness is a huge and exhausting issue  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 07:25 PM   #99 
  - Thanks for the headsup. I'll be calling. Rec.  bertman   Jan-07-10 04:43 PM   #75 
  - Called my Rep on Tuesday.  LooseWilly   Jan-07-10 05:33 PM   #85 
  - K & R...thank you so much for this article...  winyanstaz   Jan-07-10 05:40 PM   #86 
  - Thirty percent of my retirement check  azygous   Jan-07-10 05:49 PM   #87 
  - Choke hold of the mafia? The mafia provides better protection and rates  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 06:35 PM   #92 
  - K&R. Thank y ou so much for putting up the good fight. n/t  totodeinhere   Jan-07-10 05:58 PM   #88 
  - K&R  pleah   Jan-07-10 06:56 PM   #93 
  - The only way they will hear us is if  Generator   Jan-07-10 06:57 PM   #94 
  - Thanks for everything, Debbie.  t0dd   Jan-07-10 07:03 PM   #96 
  - I'll call....  femrap   Jan-07-10 07:10 PM   #98 
  - Been there, done that  ramapo   Jan-07-10 08:24 PM   #100 
  - Megakick and rec.  Ken Burch   Jan-07-10 08:44 PM   #101 
  - Thanks for your post. I recommended it.  earcandle   Jan-07-10 09:02 PM   #104 
  - as i recall, the base was pretty upset with war votes and telecom immunity...  tomp   Jan-07-10 09:26 PM   #106 
  - This so-called reform will hurt so many people . . .  janet118   Jan-07-10 09:33 PM   #107 
  - Thank you so much. You did what I couldn't do.  Gregorian   Jan-07-10 09:43 PM   #108 
  - K&R  Digit   Jan-07-10 09:56 PM   #110 
  - K&R....n/t  unkachuck   Jan-07-10 09:58 PM   #111 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-07-10 10:01 PM   #112 
  - You are thinking of someone else - I closed no post this morning or anytime  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 10:10 PM   #114 
  - Link plez. nt  rhett o rick   Jan-07-10 10:17 PM   #116 
  - I share your agony. Almost lost a friend and another's mother to lack of health care last year.  Zhade   Jan-07-10 10:31 PM   #118 
  - It is outrageous and politically STUPID beyond belief  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 10:55 PM   #120 
  - I truly believe DEMOCRACY is LOST. n/t  orbitalman   Jan-07-10 11:08 PM   #123 
  - I agree. We live in a sham Democracy. nt  rhett o rick   Jan-07-10 11:22 PM   #124 
  - I am with you all the way. Keep fighting plez. nt  rhett o rick   Jan-07-10 11:23 PM   #125 
  - At some point you stop fighting the skirmish, and turn to winning the war.  pundaint   Jan-08-10 12:48 AM   #130 
  - You've got a point  greengestalt   Jan-08-10 03:30 AM   #133 
  - Many years ago, Ralph Nader said there was no difference between  tavalon   Jan-08-10 04:32 AM   #136 
  - KandR. n/t  Dystopian   Jan-08-10 05:06 AM   #142 
  - K & R this admin has been a complete fraud  democracy1st   Jan-08-10 05:53 AM   #143 
  - I'm withholding judgement.  crikkett   Jan-08-10 09:27 AM   #152 
  - I'm sorry, but it's too late  customerserviceguy   Jan-08-10 07:51 AM   #145 
  - Get a Grip people  Tigermoose   Jan-08-10 08:53 AM   #146 
  - Poor Staffer  Aramchek   Jan-08-10 10:11 AM   #154 
  - Son of a bitches!  lonestarnot   Jan-08-10 11:13 AM   #155 
  - Debbie, very moving opening post.  breadandwine   Jan-08-10 01:42 PM   #158 
  - I just called, and they hung up on me when I insisted on speaking to a real person, not a machine.  grahamhgreen   Jan-08-10 02:00 PM   #159 
 

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