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Fri Jan-08-10 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #95 |
| 163. He lost me irrevocably the day he lied about "not" campaigning on the PO. |
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And by that, I mean I can never trust him again. He's a proven liar -- how can I overlook that? I just can't.
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| -Damning Video compiles Obama's broken promises on Cadillac, Mandates. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:17 PM |
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Why not say "I just hate the prez." |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 12:21 PM |
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Jan-07-10 12:23 PM |
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Jan-07-10 12:25 PM |
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One reason: I don't hate him, I just want him to live up to his promises. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:29 PM |
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You're right. Nothing changed. He just bailed on his promises, out of the blue. |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 12:31 PM |
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Yes, he did. He went behind closed doors with Billy Tauzin and Karen Ignagni |
laughingliberal |
Jan-07-10 12:38 PM |
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I don't understand how you keep from |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 12:39 PM |
#23 |
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Don't need your sympathy.Don't need to cut my own throat. White House doing a fine job of cutting |
laughingliberal |
Jan-07-10 12:44 PM |
#32 |
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I somehow doubt your take on this, but defend your right to |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 07:20 PM |
#138 |
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Doubt all you want |
laughingliberal |
Jan-08-10 09:43 AM |
#174 |
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...Conveniently leaving out the |
cliffordu |
Jan-08-10 11:37 AM |
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He bailed on his excise tax promise because he doesn't want to inconvenience the rich |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-07-10 12:38 PM |
#22 |
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Bingo! While we're on the subject of broken promises... |
laughingliberal |
Jan-07-10 12:46 PM |
#34 |
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I'm thinking that |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-07-10 02:27 PM |
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Boo! |
inna |
Jan-07-10 03:18 PM |
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Seems to be |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-07-10 07:11 PM |
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What a piece of work you are.nt. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 04:42 PM |
#107 |
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Why, thank you. |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-07-10 07:11 PM |
#132 |
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I was not complimenting you. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 08:55 PM |
#149 |
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I laugh all the time mostly at how dizzy the cheerleaders must be getting as they try to spin |
laughingliberal |
Jan-07-10 05:42 PM |
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How nice for you. |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-07-10 07:12 PM |
#133 |
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It's beyond me how you can be for GLBT rights and still so blindly support |
IRemember |
Jan-07-10 03:31 PM |
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it's called putting personality over principles. |
FLAprogressive |
Jan-07-10 04:32 PM |
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No it ain't. |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 07:14 PM |
#135 |
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you are condescending in almost every post..why are you here? |
xiamiam |
Jan-08-10 08:06 AM |
#171 |
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Your assesment of why I'm here and what is constructive |
cliffordu |
Jan-08-10 11:39 AM |
#176 |
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Not unreasonable that all. Thanks for posting. KnR. And it doesn't have to BE. |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-07-10 03:29 PM |
#94 |
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It would be nice if he didn't lie to our faces, too -- like on campaigning on the PO. |
Zhade |
Jan-07-10 11:51 PM |
#155 |
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Typical tactic of someone who can't refute facts or discuss the subject at hand |
debbierlus |
Jan-07-10 12:43 PM |
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Jan-07-10 02:36 PM |
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"Why do you hate America?" |
Romulox |
Jan-07-10 02:40 PM |
#74 |
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Exactly. Same mentality. |
inna |
Jan-07-10 03:16 PM |
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now you've done it. |
cliffordu |
Jan-08-10 12:59 AM |
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What the fuck? |
spoony |
Jan-07-10 02:40 PM |
#75 |
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So, since this is a discussion board, why don't you tell |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-07-10 02:53 PM |
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I predict you'll receive no response on this. |
jgraz |
Jan-07-10 03:13 PM |
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It looks like you predicted accurately ~ |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-07-10 06:27 PM |
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bored wit the haters. |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 07:08 PM |
#129 |
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I should have been more precise in my language |
jgraz |
Jan-07-10 07:40 PM |
#142 |
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And once again, you are right ~ lol!I |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-07-10 08:14 PM |
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You mean more coherent than the critics so far?? |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 08:15 PM |
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Unable to back up your arguments, you mean. |
Zhade |
Jan-07-10 11:59 PM |
#157 |
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I cooked dinner and did the dishes.....After working a bit. |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 07:29 PM |
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Yeah, that's been hard. Republican acquaintances pointing out to me daily the broken promises |
laughingliberal |
Jan-07-10 07:14 PM |
#134 |
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The rotten underpinnings of the economy weren't fully known when |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 07:27 PM |
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Zactly! |
NYC_SKP |
Jan-07-10 04:10 PM |
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Howdy!!! |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 07:10 PM |
#130 |
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Yesterday Mike Savage Started his Show With "Obama, Lied, Obama the Liar". |
NYC_SKP |
Jan-07-10 07:17 PM |
#136 |
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Yep the fair weather Dems are taking over the asylum. |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 07:18 PM |
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I love it when the apologists treat a political party like a sports team. |
jgraz |
Jan-07-10 10:05 PM |
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Thanks, no, I like it here. |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 11:43 PM |
#153 |
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And that should rightly alarm you. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-08-10 09:33 AM |
#172 |
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Why not just say "He lied to us" - because he did. |
Bluebear |
Jan-07-10 04:58 PM |
#114 |
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Or you could read 164 |
cliffordu |
Jan-07-10 11:45 PM |
#154 |
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The Obama bashing is so juvenile around here |
Don Caballero |
Jan-07-10 12:22 PM |
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don't ever follow your party's leader blindly... |
kerrywins |
Jan-07-10 12:25 PM |
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Who introduced hate into the discussion? |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:27 PM |
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So you have given up on Obama and the administration... |
HipChick |
Jan-07-10 12:32 PM |
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I think HE could have done better and SHOULD have tried harder to keep his word. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:36 PM |
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It's not unreasonable to expect a politician to refrain from supporting that which he has condemned |
JVS |
Jan-07-10 12:37 PM |
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+1 |
laughingliberal |
Jan-07-10 12:47 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Jan-07-10 01:57 PM |
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You think Obama lacks integrity? |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-07-10 02:34 PM |
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You did NOT just say that.. |
leeroysphitz |
Jan-07-10 06:48 PM |
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Oh my goddibygod. nt |
Bluebear |
Jan-07-10 09:40 PM |
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You don't think lying to our faces ("I didn't campaign on the PO") shows a lack of integrity? |
Zhade |
Jan-08-10 12:03 AM |
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well; one first have to think its a lie; and there is a fair number of people who do not consider it |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Jan-08-10 01:51 AM |
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Too much video, not enough follow through. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-08-10 09:35 AM |
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is this the first time you voted? I don't expect to agree on everything he does |
HipChick |
Jan-07-10 12:48 PM |
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These reversals have been especially egregious, and have never been honestly addressed |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:52 PM |
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As opposed to the unquestioning support no matter how far right he moves nt |
laughingliberal |
Jan-07-10 12:42 PM |
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You've been here a whopping 4 months -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jan-07-10 01:04 PM |
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Bravo and well said |
TornadoTN |
Jan-07-10 01:05 PM |
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pwned. |
jgraz |
Jan-07-10 05:53 PM |
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Agreed. n/t |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-07-10 02:28 PM |
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Yes, we just are all too STUPID to not understand his three-dimensional chess game. |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-07-10 03:15 PM |
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I thought it was an eleven-dimensional chess game |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-07-10 06:35 PM |
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big expert 4 months in arent you |
Bluebear |
Jan-07-10 03:30 PM |
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Health Care Excise Tax = A Big Middle Class Tax Increase |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-07-10 04:56 PM |
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His lying to us and breaking his promises are ever so much worse. |
Zhade |
Jan-08-10 12:01 AM |
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Pres. Obama also said the HCR negotiations would be open, public, |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-07-10 12:24 PM |
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A republican 'Whine' talking point n/t |
HipChick |
Jan-07-10 12:27 PM |
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Yes, but the president DID promise it, did he not? |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-07-10 12:29 PM |
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Yes, Obama has opened himself up to DEVASTATING attacks from the GOP |
jgraz |
Jan-07-10 02:41 PM |
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A fact that can unfortunately be used by republicans to attack obama. |
Zhade |
Jan-08-10 12:05 AM |
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He also said |
FLyellowdog |
Jan-07-10 12:27 PM |
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That's just silly. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:30 PM |
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But he did say it...on national tv. nt |
FLyellowdog |
Jan-07-10 12:39 PM |
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As noted below, we Don't KNOW that to be untrue. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:42 PM |
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How do you KNOW it's a lie? nt |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-07-10 12:30 PM |
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Indeed. For all I know, Santa DID visit the WH Xmas Eve!! |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:34 PM |
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Ask Sasha. If she got something from Santa, case closed. |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-07-10 12:45 PM |
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I'll bet she did too! My nephew did! nt. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:48 PM |
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I heard that he was |
HipChick |
Jan-07-10 12:34 PM |
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Still not addressing the actual case. Why is that? nt. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:43 PM |
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Because they can't. |
Zhade |
Jan-08-10 12:06 AM |
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If you believe that guy is an Obama supporter, I gotta bridge to sell ya. This is breitbart rehash. |
berni_mccoy |
Jan-07-10 12:37 PM |
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Why should I give a fuck whether that guy is an Obama supporter? Obama speaks for himself there |
JVS |
Jan-07-10 12:40 PM |
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Which is the part they can't honestly deny. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:59 PM |
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The narration seems sincere enough, but more important, the video is true. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:44 PM |
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They won't answer you - they'll deflect and try to make it out like you aren't a "real" Dem |
TornadoTN |
Jan-07-10 12:52 PM |
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You're assuming it's true. It's been debunked, many many times. |
berni_mccoy |
Jan-07-10 12:54 PM |
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So it's been debunked, even though he actually said it? |
TornadoTN |
Jan-07-10 12:56 PM |
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Employees are NOT being taxed. It's the INSURANCE COMPANY. |
berni_mccoy |
Jan-07-10 01:02 PM |
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What will the effect be of that "tax"? |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-07-10 01:08 PM |
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Wanna buy a bridge? |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 01:09 PM |
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Abd if you think the Insurance companies are going to eat that tax --- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jan-07-10 01:10 PM |
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I believe the costs will be passed on to the workers. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 01:56 PM |
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Well now I know why you have a bridge to sell. |
spoony |
Jan-07-10 02:43 PM |
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You're either uninformed or being deliberately obtuse. |
Xithras |
Jan-07-10 03:32 PM |
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An excise tax on a mandated purchase, no less. |
glitch |
Jan-07-10 06:21 PM |
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Sorry bud, but this is a major tax increase on the working class |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-07-10 04:53 PM |
#110 |
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Obama's words and HC plan have been debunked? By whom? n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-07-10 12:58 PM |
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The PREMISE of the argument is Bogus. The Tax Isn't On EMPLOYEES... see here |
berni_mccoy |
Jan-07-10 01:04 PM |
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Somehow they will pass the cost on. n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-07-10 01:46 PM |
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The tax is on health care premiums, which is exactly what |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-07-10 03:26 PM |
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Are you denying that the man said what he was recorded saying in that speech? |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:58 PM |
#45 |
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Fine, here's David Sirota saying essentially the same thing. |
Edweird |
Jan-07-10 01:14 PM |
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Under the bus with David Sirota where he will join |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-07-10 04:47 PM |
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Barack Obama is exactly what he campaign against. |
DisgustedInMN |
Jan-07-10 12:39 PM |
#25 |
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Ouch at the 4:55 mark ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-07-10 12:55 PM |
#41 |
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Obama boosters: Watch that part and try to defend it. You can't. |
jgraz |
Jan-07-10 02:39 PM |
#72 |
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Hard to defend - from enough is enough - to I did it too. :( n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-07-10 04:44 PM |
#108 |
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Candidate Obama made a very convincing argument against his own present policy... |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 12:56 PM |
#43 |
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Well I agree with you, but then again I'm a hater :) ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-07-10 01:02 PM |
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He sure did! People gave up raises for better health benefits. Labor is being screwed... |
GodlessBiker |
Jan-07-10 01:07 PM |
#53 |
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Yes We Can! |
mmonk |
Jan-07-10 03:52 PM |
#101 |
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Obama is obviously an "Obama Hater" for attacking Obama's policies. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-07-10 01:03 PM |
#49 |
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Bingo! Therein lies the tragic irony of our times. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 01:07 PM |
#54 |
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DUzy! |
glitch |
Jan-07-10 06:23 PM |
#121 |
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Remember when The Daily Show did the b*s* versus b*s* video? |
Zhade |
Jan-08-10 12:10 AM |
#162 |
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We democrats always turn on ourselves, down to an individual level even! |
JVS |
Jan-08-10 12:47 AM |
#166 |
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Posting in the videos forum ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-07-10 01:08 PM |
#55 |
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I put it up. Thanks for the Help. My first ever effort. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 01:15 PM |
#60 |
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Gave it a rec and you're welcome :) n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-07-10 01:47 PM |
#64 |
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There is also video of him on the mandates |
quinnox |
Jan-07-10 01:17 PM |
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Yes, if you watch long enough, that comes too. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 01:23 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-07-10 02:42 PM |
#77 |
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Not to mention numerous videos of him campaigning for a public option. |
dgibby |
Jan-07-10 03:31 PM |
#98 |
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Isn't it the CEOs who he mentions who get this tax? |
treestar |
Jan-07-10 02:34 PM |
#70 |
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He has flipped on almost every major element in HCR... |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 02:39 PM |
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IMO he'd just have to veto it to keep his promises |
treestar |
Jan-07-10 03:16 PM |
#89 |
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Pure pablum. |
jgraz |
Jan-07-10 05:51 PM |
#116 |
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Thank you |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-07-10 02:44 PM |
#79 |
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McCain's plan to tax health care was a HUGE motivator in getting people to vote for Obama. |
jgraz |
Jan-07-10 02:45 PM |
#80 |
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It was a big motive for ME. I used it in my own arguments with Repubs and fence-sitters. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 02:47 PM |
#81 |
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Can we add facts to the hyperbole, or is that against the rules here at DU? |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-07-10 02:56 PM |
#83 |
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Fine. Those are the WH talking points. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 03:03 PM |
#85 |
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What happens when insurance companies start shutting those plans down, because they're rendered |
Brickbat |
Jan-07-10 03:16 PM |
#90 |
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It can be theorized different ways..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-07-10 03:23 PM |
#92 |
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Having seen the way businesses tend to work, |
Brickbat |
Jan-07-10 03:40 PM |
#100 |
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JCT data shows excise tax in the Senate bill would strike at the heart of the middle class |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-07-10 04:57 PM |
#112 |
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thank you for posting this important Info!! eom |
flyarm |
Jan-08-10 12:29 AM |
#164 |
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crucial information. |
Bluebear |
Jan-08-10 01:19 PM |
#178 |
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Kick to find it later |
hootinholler |
Jan-07-10 02:58 PM |
#84 |
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K&R. |
David Zephyr |
Jan-07-10 03:30 PM |
#95 |
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And that is real danger here. We have to be able to trust the president. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 04:05 PM |
#102 |
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He lost me irrevocably the day he lied about "not" campaigning on the PO. |
Zhade |
Jan-08-10 12:16 AM |
#163 |
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Sad, isn't it? |
David Zephyr |
Jan-08-10 12:37 AM |
#165 |
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Ugh. nt |
BlueIris |
Jan-07-10 04:10 PM |
#104 |
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Ugh indeed. Kick! |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 04:37 PM |
#106 |
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Bottom line, he lied to us. |
Bluebear |
Jan-07-10 04:57 PM |
#113 |
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Andrew Breitbart BULLSHIT!!!!! |
devilgrrl |
Jan-07-10 05:53 PM |
#118 |
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Would it be better if it was David Sirota saying it? |
Edweird |
Jan-07-10 06:26 PM |
#122 |
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Yes but not by much |
devilgrrl |
Jan-07-10 06:40 PM |
#126 |
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Who is Andrew Breitbart and how do you know so much about him? n/t |
Subdivisions |
Jan-07-10 07:21 PM |
#139 |
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He's the right wing fucktard behind all the ACORN fake videos etc... |
devilgrrl |
Jan-07-10 07:50 PM |
#143 |
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Um, no. It's from Lee Stranahan, a loyal progressive. |
jgraz |
Jan-07-10 07:53 PM |
#144 |
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Yeah, if you BOTHERED to read my response you have saw that I acknowledged my mistake! |
devilgrrl |
Jan-07-10 08:03 PM |
#145 |
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So he had nothing to do with it then. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-07-10 08:59 PM |
#150 |
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knr |
Mari333 |
Jan-07-10 05:56 PM |
#119 |
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What are you talkin' about |
Libertas1776 |
Jan-07-10 06:26 PM |
#123 |
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It seems that occasionally Obama the candidate was a liar. |
WT Fuheck |
Jan-07-10 06:52 PM |
#128 |
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actually I did. |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Jan-07-10 08:11 PM |
#146 |
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me too. |
WT Fuheck |
Jan-08-10 01:38 AM |
#168 |
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Obama is a fraud! |
democracy1st |
Jan-07-10 11:56 PM |
#156 |
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The GOP is going to run this and other videos all over the place in 2010. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-08-10 07:56 AM |
#170 |
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yeah, they can run it |
newspeak |
Jan-08-10 12:11 PM |
#177 |
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You miss the point. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-08-10 01:21 PM |
#179 |
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We're locking this. |
pinto |
Jan-08-10 01:51 PM |
#180 |
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