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24. But he did say it...on national tv. nt
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  -Damning Video compiles Obama's broken promises on Cadillac, Mandates. freddie mertz  Jan-07-10 12:17 PM   #0 
  - Why not say "I just hate the prez."  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 12:21 PM   #1 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-07-10 12:23 PM   #3 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-07-10 12:25 PM   #6 
  - One reason: I don't hate him, I just want him to live up to his promises.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:29 PM   #10 
  - You're right. Nothing changed. He just bailed on his promises, out of the blue.  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 12:31 PM   #14 
  - Yes, he did. He went behind closed doors with Billy Tauzin and Karen Ignagni  laughingliberal   Jan-07-10 12:38 PM   #21 
  - I don't understand how you keep from  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 12:39 PM   #23 
     - Don't need your sympathy.Don't need to cut my own throat. White House doing a fine job of cutting  laughingliberal   Jan-07-10 12:44 PM   #32 
        - I somehow doubt your take on this, but defend your right to  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 07:20 PM   #138 
           - Doubt all you want  laughingliberal   Jan-08-10 09:43 AM   #174 
              - ...Conveniently leaving out the  cliffordu   Jan-08-10 11:37 AM   #175 
  - He bailed on his excise tax promise because he doesn't want to inconvenience the rich  Hello_Kitty   Jan-07-10 12:38 PM   #22 
  - Bingo! While we're on the subject of broken promises...  laughingliberal   Jan-07-10 12:46 PM   #34 
     - I'm thinking that  TicketyBoo   Jan-07-10 02:27 PM   #67 
        - Boo!  inna   Jan-07-10 03:18 PM   #91 
        - Seems to be  TicketyBoo   Jan-07-10 07:11 PM   #131 
        - What a piece of work you are.nt.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 04:42 PM   #107 
        - Why, thank you.  TicketyBoo   Jan-07-10 07:11 PM   #132 
           - I was not complimenting you.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 08:55 PM   #149 
        - I laugh all the time mostly at how dizzy the cheerleaders must be getting as they try to spin  laughingliberal   Jan-07-10 05:42 PM   #115 
           - How nice for you.  TicketyBoo   Jan-07-10 07:12 PM   #133 
  - It's beyond me how you can be for GLBT rights and still so blindly support  IRemember   Jan-07-10 03:31 PM   #97 
     - it's called putting personality over principles.  FLAprogressive   Jan-07-10 04:32 PM   #105 
        - No it ain't.  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 07:14 PM   #135 
           - you are condescending in almost every post..why are you here?  xiamiam   Jan-08-10 08:06 AM   #171 
              - Your assesment of why I'm here and what is constructive  cliffordu   Jan-08-10 11:39 AM   #176 
  - Not unreasonable that all. Thanks for posting. KnR. And it doesn't have to BE.  chimpymustgo   Jan-07-10 03:29 PM   #94 
  - It would be nice if he didn't lie to our faces, too -- like on campaigning on the PO.  Zhade   Jan-07-10 11:51 PM   #155 
  - Typical tactic of someone who can't refute facts or discuss the subject at hand  debbierlus   Jan-07-10 12:43 PM   #30 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-07-10 02:36 PM   #71 
  - "Why do you hate America?"  Romulox   Jan-07-10 02:40 PM   #74 
  - Exactly. Same mentality.  inna   Jan-07-10 03:16 PM   #88 
     - now you've done it.  cliffordu   Jan-08-10 12:59 AM   #167 
  - What the fuck?  spoony   Jan-07-10 02:40 PM   #75 
  - So, since this is a discussion board, why don't you tell  sabrina 1   Jan-07-10 02:53 PM   #82 
  - I predict you'll receive no response on this.  jgraz   Jan-07-10 03:13 PM   #86 
  - It looks like you predicted accurately ~  sabrina 1   Jan-07-10 06:27 PM   #124 
  - bored wit the haters.  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 07:08 PM   #129 
     - I should have been more precise in my language  jgraz   Jan-07-10 07:40 PM   #142 
     - And once again, you are right ~ lol!I  sabrina 1   Jan-07-10 08:14 PM   #147 
     - You mean more coherent than the critics so far??  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 08:15 PM   #148 
     - Unable to back up your arguments, you mean.  Zhade   Jan-07-10 11:59 PM   #157 
  - I cooked dinner and did the dishes.....After working a bit.  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 07:29 PM   #141 
  - Yeah, that's been hard. Republican acquaintances pointing out to me daily the broken promises  laughingliberal   Jan-07-10 07:14 PM   #134 
  - The rotten underpinnings of the economy weren't fully known when  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 07:27 PM   #140 
  - Zactly!  NYC_SKP   Jan-07-10 04:10 PM   #103 
  - Howdy!!!  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 07:10 PM   #130 
     - Yesterday Mike Savage Started his Show With "Obama, Lied, Obama the Liar".  NYC_SKP   Jan-07-10 07:17 PM   #136 
        - Yep the fair weather Dems are taking over the asylum.  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 07:18 PM   #137 
        - I love it when the apologists treat a political party like a sports team.  jgraz   Jan-07-10 10:05 PM   #152 
           - Thanks, no, I like it here.  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 11:43 PM   #153 
        - And that should rightly alarm you.  freddie mertz   Jan-08-10 09:33 AM   #172 
  - Why not just say "He lied to us" - because he did.  Bluebear   Jan-07-10 04:58 PM   #114 
     - Or you could read 164  cliffordu   Jan-07-10 11:45 PM   #154 
  - The Obama bashing is so juvenile around here  Don Caballero   Jan-07-10 12:22 PM   #2 
  - don't ever follow your party's leader blindly...  kerrywins   Jan-07-10 12:25 PM   #5 
  - Who introduced hate into the discussion?  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:27 PM   #7 
  - So you have given up on Obama and the administration...  HipChick   Jan-07-10 12:32 PM   #15 
     - I think HE could have done better and SHOULD have tried harder to keep his word.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:36 PM   #18 
        - It's not unreasonable to expect a politician to refrain from supporting that which he has condemned  JVS   Jan-07-10 12:37 PM   #20 
        - +1  laughingliberal   Jan-07-10 12:47 PM   #35 
        - +1  leftstreet   Jan-07-10 01:57 PM   #66 
        - You think Obama lacks integrity?  TicketyBoo   Jan-07-10 02:34 PM   #69 
           - You did NOT just say that..  leeroysphitz   Jan-07-10 06:48 PM   #127 
           - Oh my goddibygod. nt  Bluebear   Jan-07-10 09:40 PM   #151 
           - You don't think lying to our faces ("I didn't campaign on the PO") shows a lack of integrity?  Zhade   Jan-08-10 12:03 AM   #159 
              - well; one first have to think its a lie; and there is a fair number of people who do not consider it  Bodhi BloodWave   Jan-08-10 01:51 AM   #169 
                 - Too much video, not enough follow through.  freddie mertz   Jan-08-10 09:35 AM   #173 
        - is this the first time you voted? I don't expect to agree on everything he does  HipChick   Jan-07-10 12:48 PM   #37 
           - These reversals have been especially egregious, and have never been honestly addressed  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:52 PM   #38 
  - As opposed to the unquestioning support no matter how far right he moves nt  laughingliberal   Jan-07-10 12:42 PM   #28 
  - You've been here a whopping 4 months --  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-07-10 01:04 PM   #50 
  - Bravo and well said  TornadoTN   Jan-07-10 01:05 PM   #52 
  - pwned.  jgraz   Jan-07-10 05:53 PM   #117 
  - Agreed. n/t  TicketyBoo   Jan-07-10 02:28 PM   #68 
  - Yes, we just are all too STUPID to not understand his three-dimensional chess game.  ShortnFiery   Jan-07-10 03:15 PM   #87 
  - I thought it was an eleven-dimensional chess game  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 06:35 PM   #125 
  - big expert 4 months in arent you  Bluebear   Jan-07-10 03:30 PM   #96 
  - Health Care Excise Tax = A Big Middle Class Tax Increase  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 04:56 PM   #111 
  - His lying to us and breaking his promises are ever so much worse.  Zhade   Jan-08-10 12:01 AM   #158 
  - Pres. Obama also said the HCR negotiations would be open, public,  Common Sense Party   Jan-07-10 12:24 PM   #4 
  - A republican 'Whine' talking point n/t  HipChick   Jan-07-10 12:27 PM   #8 
     - Yes, but the president DID promise it, did he not?  Common Sense Party   Jan-07-10 12:29 PM   #11 
     - Yes, Obama has opened himself up to DEVASTATING attacks from the GOP  jgraz   Jan-07-10 02:41 PM   #76 
     - A fact that can unfortunately be used by republicans to attack obama.  Zhade   Jan-08-10 12:05 AM   #160 
  - He also said  FLyellowdog   Jan-07-10 12:27 PM   #9 
  - That's just silly.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:30 PM   #12 
  - But he did say it...on national tv. nt  FLyellowdog   Jan-07-10 12:39 PM   #24 
     - As noted below, we Don't KNOW that to be untrue.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:42 PM   #27 
  - How do you KNOW it's a lie? nt  Common Sense Party   Jan-07-10 12:30 PM   #13 
  - Indeed. For all I know, Santa DID visit the WH Xmas Eve!!  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:34 PM   #16 
     - Ask Sasha. If she got something from Santa, case closed.  Common Sense Party   Jan-07-10 12:45 PM   #33 
        - I'll bet she did too! My nephew did! nt.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:48 PM   #36 
  - I heard that he was  HipChick   Jan-07-10 12:34 PM   #17 
     - Still not addressing the actual case. Why is that? nt.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:43 PM   #29 
        - Because they can't.  Zhade   Jan-08-10 12:06 AM   #161 
  - If you believe that guy is an Obama supporter, I gotta bridge to sell ya. This is breitbart rehash.  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-10 12:37 PM   #19 
  - Why should I give a fuck whether that guy is an Obama supporter? Obama speaks for himself there  JVS   Jan-07-10 12:40 PM   #26 
  - Which is the part they can't honestly deny.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:59 PM   #46 
  - The narration seems sincere enough, but more important, the video is true.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:44 PM   #31 
  - They won't answer you - they'll deflect and try to make it out like you aren't a "real" Dem  TornadoTN   Jan-07-10 12:52 PM   #39 
  - You're assuming it's true. It's been debunked, many many times.  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-10 12:54 PM   #40 
     - So it's been debunked, even though he actually said it?  TornadoTN   Jan-07-10 12:56 PM   #42 
     - Employees are NOT being taxed. It's the INSURANCE COMPANY.  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-10 01:02 PM   #48 
        - What will the effect be of that "tax"?  Common Sense Party   Jan-07-10 01:08 PM   #56 
        - Wanna buy a bridge?  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 01:09 PM   #57 
        - Abd if you think the Insurance companies are going to eat that tax ---  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-07-10 01:10 PM   #58 
        - I believe the costs will be passed on to the workers.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 01:56 PM   #65 
        - Well now I know why you have a bridge to sell.  spoony   Jan-07-10 02:43 PM   #78 
        - You're either uninformed or being deliberately obtuse.  Xithras   Jan-07-10 03:32 PM   #99 
        - An excise tax on a mandated purchase, no less.  glitch   Jan-07-10 06:21 PM   #120 
        - Sorry bud, but this is a major tax increase on the working class  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 04:53 PM   #110 
     - Obama's words and HC plan have been debunked? By whom? n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-07-10 12:58 PM   #44 
     - The PREMISE of the argument is Bogus. The Tax Isn't On EMPLOYEES... see here  berni_mccoy   Jan-07-10 01:04 PM   #51 
        - Somehow they will pass the cost on. n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-07-10 01:46 PM   #63 
        - The tax is on health care premiums, which is exactly what  sabrina 1   Jan-07-10 03:26 PM   #93 
     - Are you denying that the man said what he was recorded saying in that speech?  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:58 PM   #45 
  - Fine, here's David Sirota saying essentially the same thing.  Edweird   Jan-07-10 01:14 PM   #59 
     - Under the bus with David Sirota where he will join  sabrina 1   Jan-07-10 04:47 PM   #109 
  - Barack Obama is exactly what he campaign against.  DisgustedInMN   Jan-07-10 12:39 PM   #25 
  - Ouch at the 4:55 mark ...  slipslidingaway   Jan-07-10 12:55 PM   #41 
  - Obama boosters: Watch that part and try to defend it. You can't.  jgraz   Jan-07-10 02:39 PM   #72 
     - Hard to defend - from enough is enough - to I did it too. :( n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-07-10 04:44 PM   #108 
  - Candidate Obama made a very convincing argument against his own present policy...  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 12:56 PM   #43 
  - Well I agree with you, but then again I'm a hater :) ...  slipslidingaway   Jan-07-10 01:02 PM   #47 
  - He sure did! People gave up raises for better health benefits. Labor is being screwed...  GodlessBiker   Jan-07-10 01:07 PM   #53 
  - Yes We Can!  mmonk   Jan-07-10 03:52 PM   #101 
  - Obama is obviously an "Obama Hater" for attacking Obama's policies.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-07-10 01:03 PM   #49 
  - Bingo! Therein lies the tragic irony of our times.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 01:07 PM   #54 
  - DUzy!  glitch   Jan-07-10 06:23 PM   #121 
  - HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Remember when The Daily Show did the b*s* versus b*s* video?  Zhade   Jan-08-10 12:10 AM   #162 
  - We democrats always turn on ourselves, down to an individual level even!  JVS   Jan-08-10 12:47 AM   #166 
  - Posting in the videos forum ...  slipslidingaway   Jan-07-10 01:08 PM   #55 
  - I put it up. Thanks for the Help. My first ever effort.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 01:15 PM   #60 
     - Gave it a rec and you're welcome :) n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-07-10 01:47 PM   #64 
  - There is also video of him on the mandates  quinnox   Jan-07-10 01:17 PM   #61 
  - Yes, if you watch long enough, that comes too.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 01:23 PM   #62 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-07-10 02:42 PM   #77 
  - Not to mention numerous videos of him campaigning for a public option.  dgibby   Jan-07-10 03:31 PM   #98 
  - Isn't it the CEOs who he mentions who get this tax?  treestar   Jan-07-10 02:34 PM   #70 
  - He has flipped on almost every major element in HCR...  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 02:39 PM   #73 
  - IMO he'd just have to veto it to keep his promises  treestar   Jan-07-10 03:16 PM   #89 
     - Pure pablum.  jgraz   Jan-07-10 05:51 PM   #116 
  - Thank you  TicketyBoo   Jan-07-10 02:44 PM   #79 
  - McCain's plan to tax health care was a HUGE motivator in getting people to vote for Obama.  jgraz   Jan-07-10 02:45 PM   #80 
  - It was a big motive for ME. I used it in my own arguments with Repubs and fence-sitters.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 02:47 PM   #81 
  - Can we add facts to the hyperbole, or is that against the rules here at DU?  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-10 02:56 PM   #83 
  - Fine. Those are the WH talking points.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 03:03 PM   #85 
  - What happens when insurance companies start shutting those plans down, because they're rendered  Brickbat   Jan-07-10 03:16 PM   #90 
  - It can be theorized different ways.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-07-10 03:23 PM   #92 
     - Having seen the way businesses tend to work,  Brickbat   Jan-07-10 03:40 PM   #100 
  - JCT data shows excise tax in the Senate bill would strike at the heart of the middle class  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 04:57 PM   #112 
     - thank you for posting this important Info!! eom  flyarm   Jan-08-10 12:29 AM   #164 
     - crucial information.  Bluebear   Jan-08-10 01:19 PM   #178 
  - Kick to find it later  hootinholler   Jan-07-10 02:58 PM   #84 
  - K&R.  David Zephyr   Jan-07-10 03:30 PM   #95 
  - And that is real danger here. We have to be able to trust the president.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 04:05 PM   #102 
  - He lost me irrevocably the day he lied about "not" campaigning on the PO.  Zhade   Jan-08-10 12:16 AM   #163 
     - Sad, isn't it?  David Zephyr   Jan-08-10 12:37 AM   #165 
  - Ugh. nt  BlueIris   Jan-07-10 04:10 PM   #104 
  - Ugh indeed. Kick!  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 04:37 PM   #106 
  - Bottom line, he lied to us.  Bluebear   Jan-07-10 04:57 PM   #113 
  - Andrew Breitbart BULLSHIT!!!!!  devilgrrl   Jan-07-10 05:53 PM   #118 
  - Would it be better if it was David Sirota saying it?  Edweird   Jan-07-10 06:26 PM   #122 
  - Yes but not by much  devilgrrl   Jan-07-10 06:40 PM   #126 
  - Who is Andrew Breitbart and how do you know so much about him? n/t  Subdivisions   Jan-07-10 07:21 PM   #139 
  - He's the right wing fucktard behind all the ACORN fake videos etc...  devilgrrl   Jan-07-10 07:50 PM   #143 
  - Um, no. It's from Lee Stranahan, a loyal progressive.  jgraz   Jan-07-10 07:53 PM   #144 
     - Yeah, if you BOTHERED to read my response you have saw that I acknowledged my mistake!  devilgrrl   Jan-07-10 08:03 PM   #145 
        - So he had nothing to do with it then.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 08:59 PM   #150 
  - knr  Mari333   Jan-07-10 05:56 PM   #119 
  - What are you talkin' about  Libertas1776   Jan-07-10 06:26 PM   #123 
  - It seems that occasionally Obama the candidate was a liar.  WT Fuheck   Jan-07-10 06:52 PM   #128 
  - actually I did.  EmeraldCityGrl   Jan-07-10 08:11 PM   #146 
     - me too.  WT Fuheck   Jan-08-10 01:38 AM   #168 
  - Obama is a fraud!  democracy1st   Jan-07-10 11:56 PM   #156 
  - The GOP is going to run this and other videos all over the place in 2010.  freddie mertz   Jan-08-10 07:56 AM   #170 
  - yeah, they can run it  newspeak   Jan-08-10 12:11 PM   #177 
     - You miss the point.  freddie mertz   Jan-08-10 01:21 PM   #179 
  - We're locking this.  pinto   Jan-08-10 01:51 PM   #180 
 

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