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  -Ralph Nader is just as responsible for American deaths in Iraq than George W. Bush. trumad  Jan-06-10 08:15 PM   #0 
  - +1  jpak   Jan-06-10 08:17 PM   #1 
  - Yep. And the people who have died because stem cell research was crippled.  Zoeisright   Jan-06-10 08:17 PM   #2 
  - And the Patriot Act...  trumad   Jan-06-10 08:20 PM   #6 
     - Which the Dems trampled over each other to vote for. n/t  superduperfarleft   Jan-06-10 08:29 PM   #24 
        - And because of the undie bomber, we've decided to not let certain provisions lapse  Moochy   Jan-07-10 09:56 AM   #133 
           - Well, if Nader hadn't tried to blow up that plane, none of this would've happened.  superduperfarleft   Jan-07-10 10:11 AM   #136 
              - He's Omnipresent and 'Omni-Causal'!  Moochy   Jan-07-10 10:12 AM   #137 
  - +1  we can do it   Jan-06-10 08:18 PM   #3 
  - "Fuck you Nader" is right.  TexasObserver   Jan-06-10 08:19 PM   #4 
  - O.K. Carlos, whatever  OffWithTheirHeads   Jan-06-10 08:20 PM   #5 
  - Please---  trumad   Jan-06-10 08:21 PM   #8 
  - Hey I forgot all about Carlos!  mzmolly   Jan-06-10 09:51 PM   #50 
  - Carlos lives on through other posters. He's immortal.  David Zephyr   Jan-06-10 11:14 PM   #66 
     - George Bush is responsible for his own errors  TayTay   Jan-07-10 09:52 AM   #130 
        - Tay, you are right BUT the o.p. is also right  MH1   Jan-08-10 07:30 PM   #187 
  - he was an amateur, you are a professional  Moochy   Jan-07-10 09:32 AM   #119 
  - thanks for that blast from the past  DisgustipatedinCA   Jan-06-10 08:28 PM   #21 
  - ...  Ignis   Jan-07-10 04:57 PM   #170 
  - Yep. nt  onehandle   Jan-06-10 08:20 PM   #7 
  - Moreso, IMO  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 08:21 PM   #9 
  - 97,000 Floridians voted for this guy  trumad   Jan-06-10 08:22 PM   #11 
     - Gore actually won by about 500 points  HillbillyBob   Jan-06-10 08:28 PM   #23 
     - why not blame the 97,000 for not voting for leiberman?  mdmc   Jan-07-10 07:33 AM   #98 
        - Exactly. Lieberman cost Gore the election, not Nader  SOS   Jan-07-10 09:39 AM   #123 
           - How did Lieberman  leftynyc   Jan-07-10 10:14 AM   #140 
           - Clinton/Gore carried TN twice: 1992 and 1996  SOS   Jan-07-10 11:26 AM   #152 
           - yupyup  mdmc   Jan-07-10 06:06 PM   #177 
           - I blame it all on those Jewish voters in West Palm.  Dr.Phool   Jan-09-10 05:05 PM   #211 
  - That is fundie logic  ashling   Jan-06-10 08:22 PM   #10 
  - Just how did Nader help Bush distroy this country?  blues90   Jan-06-10 08:24 PM   #12 
  - They sure are. nt  Snotcicles   Jan-06-10 08:25 PM   #16 
  - Here we go again. Nader knew that he couldn't win. He didn't have the numbers.  MUAD_DIB   Jan-06-10 10:10 PM   #57 
     - sort of like Kerry who promised to count ALL votes and then  blues90   Jan-06-10 10:17 PM   #59 
     - I would agree that Kerry should have fought harder than he did.  MUAD_DIB   Jan-06-10 10:32 PM   #61 
     - So what he has every right to run just like any other natural born citizen over 35 years of age.  Raineyb   Jan-07-10 04:08 PM   #164 
        - He has every right to run and help kill the the candidate that had a real chance to win...  MUAD_DIB   Jan-07-10 10:45 PM   #178 
           - He's not a Democrat he doesn't owe them a damn thing.  Raineyb   Jan-08-10 07:54 PM   #193 
              - I love your posturing. Yes, I will laugh at it.  MUAD_DIB   Jan-08-10 11:30 PM   #197 
  - Why invoke Ralph Nader now?  Quantess   Jan-06-10 08:24 PM   #13 
  - we are going to hear this crap all the way to 2012, as a "warning"  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 07:08 AM   #93 
  - How amazing would it be if millions upon millions of Americans simply got "fed up"  Harry Monroe   Jan-07-10 08:04 AM   #105 
  - +++1000 that is exactly what they're afraid of & why Nader must be "invoked"  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 10:10 AM   #135 
  - you got it  G_j   Jan-07-10 09:08 AM   #112 
  - Because we can't take responsibility for our own fuck-ups.  Ignis   Jan-07-10 04:55 PM   #168 
  - This is sure to lead to a productive discussion. n/t  el_bryanto   Jan-06-10 08:24 PM   #14 
  - Ralph Nader is a jackass but the logic used here is worse than Nader  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-06-10 08:25 PM   #15 
  - I agree 1000%  dkf   Jan-06-10 08:25 PM   # 
  - Wow. Who knew? Nader sent troops to Iraq! I suppose he escalated the war in Afghanistan too?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-06-10 08:25 PM   #17 
  - really? you seem to know how to tenaciously hold on to useless anger  DisgustipatedinCA   Jan-06-10 08:26 PM   #18 
  - HEADLINE: Republicans sweep both House and Senate in 2010 elections!  arcadian   Jan-06-10 08:27 PM   #19 
  - wH0a I see dOts  d_b   Jan-06-10 08:58 PM   #38 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-06-10 08:27 PM   #20 
  - What about all the Dems who voted for the IWR? n/t  superduperfarleft   Jan-06-10 08:28 PM   #22 
  - they don't count. dems can't be held responsible for anything. nt  PizzaDriver   Jan-06-10 09:21 PM   #48 
  - Hey, trumad....answer this post, please.  Forkboy   Jan-07-10 07:47 AM   #101 
  - I see *crickets* in your future.  Ignis   Jan-07-10 05:00 PM   #173 
  - Who's responsible for dead Afghanis?  rug   Jan-06-10 08:29 PM   #25 
  - Then anyone who doesn't vote dem is guilty for anything the GOP does if they win?  stray cat   Jan-06-10 08:31 PM   #26 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-06-10 08:36 PM   #27 
  - Harry Truman responsible for more deaths than Ralph Nader  DerekG   Jan-06-10 08:37 PM   #28 
  - Respectfully disagree.  H2O Man   Jan-06-10 08:37 PM   #29 
  - he had raytheon stock in his portfolio too. fuckign hypocrit  dionysus   Jan-06-10 08:40 PM   #30 
  - Two-Minutes Hate from reactionary troglodyte  Pretty Boy Floyd   Jan-06-10 08:46 PM   #31 
  - He can't hear you!!!!  superduperfarleft   Jan-07-10 07:53 AM   #104 
  - this is the same kind of logic that keeps any real progressive candidate from being viable...  luvspeas   Jan-06-10 08:47 PM   #32 
  - This is without a doubt the most asinine post I've seen today.  Raineyb   Jan-06-10 08:47 PM   #33 
  - The FUCKING SUPREME COURT is far more responsible than Nader  bullwinkle428   Jan-06-10 08:49 PM   #34 
  - Bullshit. n/t  Mojambo   Jan-06-10 08:50 PM   #35 
  - Dude. Hasn't this been hashed to death a thousand times here already.  madinmaryland   Jan-06-10 08:56 PM   #36 
  - Or Barry Bonds.  H2O Man   Jan-06-10 08:57 PM   #37 
  - So it was the fucking steroids that bbonds gave * that allowed him to win.  madinmaryland   Jan-06-10 10:35 PM   #62 
  - nader is just one of many who have varying degrees of responsibility for it.  dionysus   Jan-06-10 08:59 PM   #39 
  - OMG, Erma, oh Erma, how could you have caused this forced-birther  Cerridwen   Jan-06-10 09:01 PM   #40 
  - The utopians will never admit it.  tabasco   Jan-06-10 09:02 PM   #41 
  - The left-coalition is being sundered by rightwing Democrats. Not the Naderites.  Xithras   Jan-07-10 12:45 PM   #157 
     - + a million or two: "Nader filled a vacuum."  Ignis   Jan-07-10 05:03 PM   #174 
  - Damn! I accidentally recced this piece of shit thread!  frog92969   Jan-06-10 09:04 PM   #42 
  - You speak the real truth.  go west young man   Jan-07-10 06:58 AM   #89 
  - Nader is responsible for the actions of Bush?  begin_within   Jan-06-10 09:13 PM   #43 
  - My God. I've never seen anything so stupid in my life.  Fading Captain   Jan-06-10 09:14 PM   #44 
  - That's just laughable.  stevedeshazer   Jan-06-10 09:17 PM   #45 
  - Generic comment here.  Flaneur   Jan-06-10 09:19 PM   #46 
  - another contribution to the image of dems as the party that doesn't demand personal responsibility f  PizzaDriver   Jan-06-10 09:20 PM   #47 
  - -1  Crunchy Frog   Jan-06-10 09:29 PM   #49 
  - And he caused 9/11, deregulated Wall Street and tried to destroy the auto industry!  Better Believe It   Jan-06-10 09:59 PM   #51 
  - I have less than 0 respect for Nader, but even I can't accept that...  Ozymanithrax   Jan-06-10 10:01 PM   #52 
  - Bullshit  insanity   Jan-06-10 10:03 PM   #53 
  - nader threw the election to cheney and bush by saying gore was no different  seeinfweggos   Jan-06-10 10:05 PM   #54 
  - And BushCo stealing the election had nothing to do with it, right?  Lorien   Jan-06-10 11:38 PM   #72 
     - of course they did  seeinfweggos   Jan-06-10 11:43 PM   #75 
     - Nader knew it was close in Florida and BROKE his pledge to not  Kahuna   Jan-07-10 06:48 AM   #84 
  - OMYGOD! OMYGOD! OMYGOD! OMYGOD! OMYGOD! OMYGOD!  MUAD_DIB   Jan-06-10 10:08 PM   #55 
  - is a shit statement. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Jan-06-10 10:09 PM   #56 
  - Let's make some slight corrections here....  Sebastian Doyle   Jan-06-10 10:15 PM   #58 
  - That's more like it  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-06-10 10:28 PM   #60 
  - What you said.  stevedeshazer   Jan-06-10 11:31 PM   #69 
     - Ditto.  go west young man   Jan-07-10 03:57 PM   #162 
  - "Oh, but that's DIFFERENT. Those guys wear blue shirts!"  Ignis   Jan-07-10 05:20 PM   #175 
  - Congratulations.  beardown   Jan-06-10 10:42 PM   #63 
  - "..moved from a Free Republic poster to.." Follow FR pretty closely, do we?  apocalypsehow   Jan-06-10 11:17 PM   #67 
  - You really want to say that?  nemo137   Jan-06-10 11:44 PM   #76 
     - So the truth hurts, deal with it  beardown   Jan-07-10 11:11 AM   #149 
  - At least he isn't bombing Yemen, Pakistan and Afghanistan...  JackRiddler   Jan-06-10 10:55 PM   #64 
  - Indeed. Heaven forbid we should irradicate terrorists. Oops! I forgot,  Kahuna   Jan-07-10 06:55 AM   #87 
     - How can you blame Nader for Bush? The other week you blamed gays for Bush.  Forkboy   Jan-07-10 07:49 AM   #102 
     - He is an equal opportunity blamer  unapatriciated   Jan-08-10 07:39 PM   #190 
     - I love wingnut talking points  PVnRT   Jan-07-10 08:07 AM   #106 
     - Thousands of civilian non-combatants have been killed.  JackRiddler   Jan-07-10 09:05 AM   #111 
     - Oh, and did you mean irrigate or eradicate?  JackRiddler   Jan-07-10 09:48 AM   #127 
     - Lets be sure to kill their babies so they don't breed and make more terrists!111  Moochy   Jan-07-10 09:53 AM   #131 
     - Welcome to our board, Rep. Peter King of New York!  bullwinkle428   Jan-07-10 10:17 AM   #144 
     - No, we don't believe in indiscriminate bombings.  Ignis   Jan-07-10 04:56 PM   #169 
  - Truer words have never been spoken. Kick, Rec.  apocalypsehow   Jan-06-10 11:13 PM   #65 
  - Really? then you need to reexamine your concept of "truth".  Lorien   Jan-06-10 11:37 PM   #71 
     - Sucks to realize that Nader was a co-enabler of the Bush/Cheney nightmare, doesn't it?  apocalypsehow   Jan-06-10 11:41 PM   #74 
  - Oh pulleazze. Give that lie a rest.  David Zephyr   Jan-06-10 11:18 PM   #68 
  - Talk about misdirected anger! Nader has looked out for our interests for decades  Lorien   Jan-06-10 11:36 PM   #70 
  - Until 2000, when he helped two OILMEN get into the WH. That was a  Kahuna   Jan-07-10 06:52 AM   #85 
  - Trumad,  stevedeshazer   Jan-06-10 11:38 PM   #73 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-06-10 11:44 PM   #77 
  - He didn't vote for the Iraq War Resolution.  mmonk   Jan-07-10 06:02 AM   #78 
  - Why don't we put the blame on Al Gore instead?  Chef Eric   Jan-07-10 06:33 AM   #79 
  - Nice try at rewriting history. Nobody knew how big a douche lieberman  Kahuna   Jan-07-10 06:46 AM   #81 
     - lieberman was a major turn-off even in 2000  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 07:02 AM   #91 
     - "Nobody"?  SOS   Jan-07-10 09:55 AM   #132 
     - Well, when one only becomes aware of politics because it was cool to be anti-IWR  superduperfarleft   Jan-07-10 10:13 AM   #138 
     - I fucking knew.  go west young man   Jan-07-10 04:03 PM   #163 
     - Nader strongly criticized Lieberman back then. You just weren't paying attention. nt  Chef Eric   Jan-08-10 07:17 PM   #186 
     - I did. It is why I didn't vote for Gore. Therefore it was Gore's fault. nt  Bonobo   Jan-09-10 08:17 AM   #206 
  - Agreed. nt  Kahuna   Jan-07-10 06:44 AM   #80 
  - I am no fan of Nader  quaker bill   Jan-07-10 06:46 AM   #82 
  - Your post can only be classified as "incredibly stupid".  Tailormyst   Jan-07-10 06:46 AM   #83 
  - of course, it's not the fault of people who voted for bush  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 06:53 AM   #86 
  - Of course it is. Voting for Nader was a vote for bush as well. nt  Kahuna   Jan-07-10 06:56 AM   #88 
     - could you explain that, please? how so? (nt)  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 07:03 AM   #92 
  - Nader is one worthless fuck.  Vickers   Jan-07-10 07:00 AM   #90 
  - Time for the Hate Break. In fact, Bush is responsible, not Nader.  freddie mertz   Jan-07-10 07:11 AM   #94 
  - ralph makes greatest page, reactionaries shit themselves!  KG   Jan-07-10 07:24 AM   #95 
  - Didn't the same thing happen a few weeks ago?  Tailormyst   Jan-07-10 07:28 AM   #96 
     - "Great Success"  Moochy   Jan-07-10 09:31 AM   #118 
  - YOU LIE!  mdmc   Jan-07-10 07:30 AM   #97 
  - Gore actually won. The USSC appointed Junior.  Cass   Jan-07-10 07:40 AM   #99 
  - Do you hold all the thousands of Dems in Florida who voted for Bush responsible also?  Forkboy   Jan-07-10 07:46 AM   #100 
  - that would require critical thinking.  KG   Jan-07-10 07:50 AM   #103 
  - If they had unrec's back then those threads would have been sub zero  Moochy   Jan-07-10 09:18 AM   #116 
  - I do. I hold any puke who votes for anybody other than a Democrat  DevonRex   Jan-07-10 10:16 AM   #142 
  - So hypothetically...according to your post...  go west young man   Jan-07-10 04:18 PM   #166 
  - I generally assume that people who vote Republican are ignorant fools  Hippo_Tron   Jan-09-10 06:33 PM   #215 
  - Bush/Cheney were illegally installed to carry out PNAC plans  GreenMetalFlake   Jan-07-10 08:40 AM   #107 
  - Elect him to office. THEN blame him for his performance. n/t  Orsino   Jan-07-10 09:01 AM   #108 
  - +1  Ron Green   Jan-07-10 09:12 AM   #113 
  - Why does the ~50% voter apathy in 2000 always get a pass when blame for Bush's election comes up?  tuvor   Jan-07-10 09:02 AM   #109 
  - yep  anakie   Jan-07-10 04:39 PM   #167 
  - Progressives should always vote for whatever shit candidates the Dems put up for President/VP ...  invictus   Jan-07-10 09:04 AM   #110 
  - NaderHateFest 2010.1 I'm not too late!  Moochy   Jan-07-10 09:17 AM   #114 
  - ...  spoony   Jan-07-10 09:17 AM   #115 
  - Epic wrong--and yet I loathe Nader. nt  blondeatlast   Jan-07-10 09:19 AM   #117 
  - You know, this is getting old, real old.  MadHound   Jan-07-10 09:35 AM   #120 
  - +1  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 09:38 AM   #122 
  - +1000  Moochy   Jan-07-10 09:41 AM   #125 
  - Thank you!  racaulk   Jan-07-10 12:09 PM   #154 
  - this post should be an op-I would so knr it  unapatriciated   Jan-08-10 07:53 PM   #192 
  - And the voters in Tennessee who didn't vote for Gore had NOTHING to do with it  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 09:37 AM   #121 
  - 97,000 Floridians voted for this guy  trumad   Jan-07-10 09:40 AM   #124 
  - WHAT? not THE difference?  Moochy   Jan-07-10 09:44 AM   #126 
  - Once again. Gore did not win his own state.  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 09:49 AM   #129 
     - OK--- let me ask you this...  trumad   Jan-07-10 10:09 AM   #134 
        - Maybe not  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-07-10 10:15 AM   #141 
        - Bullshit.  trumad   Jan-07-10 12:53 PM   #158 
        - Dude. If Nader had not run, Bushco would still have stolen Florida.  madinmaryland   Jan-07-10 10:22 AM   #146 
        - There was no foul play!!!  Moochy   Jan-07-10 10:23 AM   #147 
        - You are making a HUGE and False assumption.  bvar22   Jan-07-10 01:24 PM   #160 
        - If Gore had picked Bob Graham (D-FL)  SOS   Jan-09-10 04:57 PM   #210 
  - People who vote Republican are generally ill informed (low information voters)  Hippo_Tron   Jan-09-10 06:37 PM   #216 
  - Nope...not a Nader fan, but who's culpable are all the Senators who  joeybee12   Jan-07-10 09:48 AM   #128 
  - I don't think you can say that here on Nader Underground. Nader is GOD I tells ya!  DevonRex   Jan-07-10 10:13 AM   #139 
  - Nader Underground? That's a good one.  johan helge   Jan-09-10 06:42 PM   #217 
  - fuck hyperbole  Moochy   Jan-07-10 10:16 AM   #143 
  - WOW!  Wind Dancer   Jan-07-10 10:20 AM   #145 
  - I Proudly...  Rebubula   Jan-07-10 10:26 AM   #148 
  - WOW... Some people believe Nader is SUPERMAN!  bvar22   Jan-07-10 11:14 AM   #150 
  - so democracy DOES work--"democrats" need to catch the clue train  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 12:02 PM   #153 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-10-10 03:48 AM   #221 
  - This indicative of our problem in politics today - NO RESPONSIBILITY  ShamelessHussy   Jan-07-10 11:15 AM   #151 
  - unrec  conscious evolution   Jan-07-10 12:24 PM   #155 
  - I cannot stand Ralph Nader --but you are completely wrong  CreekDog   Jan-07-10 12:32 PM   #156 
  - Nader has done more for progressive causes on any given day  harkadog   Jan-07-10 12:55 PM   #159 
  - Without Nader, no Bush presidency  johan helge   Jan-09-10 06:48 PM   #218 
  - wow. what a terribly dishonest argument.  La Lioness Priyanka   Jan-07-10 01:29 PM   #161 
  - jesus, what sick tripe.  inna   Jan-07-10 04:18 PM   #165 
  - Agressively stupid. Unrec. nt  Romulox   Jan-07-10 04:57 PM   #171 
  - No, he isn't. He was an enabler, not a participant. But, yes, fuck him. n/t  Unvanguard   Jan-07-10 04:59 PM   #172 
  - The Winnah! The shittiest post of the New Year.  Ron Green   Jan-07-10 05:34 PM   #176 
  - Nader re: corvair and 2000  Nader Supporter   Jan-08-10 04:24 PM   #179 
  - Nader Bio [brief]  Nader Supporter   Jan-08-10 06:59 PM   #184 
     - thank you for taking the time to write those informative posts  ima_sinnic   Jan-08-10 08:07 PM   #194 
  - In what context did he say that?  bik0   Jan-08-10 04:32 PM   #180 
  - In what context did he say that?  bik0   Jan-08-10 04:34 PM   #181 
  - No he's not. And saying something like this shows a distinct lack of  20score   Jan-08-10 04:41 PM   #182 
  - All Nader did was run for office.  glen123098   Jan-08-10 04:51 PM   #183 
  - It's all democracy's fault!!! How dare anyone challenge the Coke/Pepsi dichotomy??  LooseWilly   Jan-08-10 07:04 PM   #185 
  - yes you are right, and remember "there's not a dime worth of difference"  MH1   Jan-08-10 07:32 PM   #188 
  - Not even close!  punkin87   Jan-08-10 07:38 PM   #189 
  - He should have been pragmatic and dropped out  era veteran   Jan-08-10 07:52 PM   #191 
  - He didn't have to. When will you get it through your skull that Nader was under  Raineyb   Jan-08-10 08:08 PM   #195 
     - "under no obligation" - well, when you put it like that ...  MH1   Jan-08-10 09:22 PM   #196 
     - So you got Bush  era veteran   Jan-09-10 03:19 AM   #200 
     - yeah, we "got Bush" because people voted for Bush, they wrote in names,  ima_sinnic   Jan-09-10 07:50 AM   #203 
        - So how did that 8 years of bush work out for you?  era veteran   Jan-09-10 04:47 PM   #207 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-10-10 03:51 AM   #223 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-10-10 03:50 AM   #222 
  - How DARE people vote for someone that represents their politics!!!! nt  Bonobo   Jan-08-10 11:34 PM   #198 
  - What's the point of posting this warmed over horse shit?  Flaneur   Jan-09-10 12:27 AM   #199 
  - Nader is a self-important, irresponsible, and arrogant jackass  TheKentuckian   Jan-09-10 05:55 AM   #201 
  - apparently the game has to be "handicapped" for the Democrat  ima_sinnic   Jan-09-10 07:10 AM   #202 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-10-10 03:53 AM   #224 
  - I once felt that way. No longer do. And if I hadn't stopped feeling that way pre-2008,  shadesofgray   Jan-09-10 08:11 AM   #204 
  - Seriously, this OP makes you sound like a stupid idiot with poor judgment.  Bonobo   Jan-09-10 08:16 AM   #205 
  - Complete bullshit....obvious from one who doesn't know jackshit nor  LaPera   Jan-09-10 04:54 PM   #208 
  - You really impress me  johan helge   Jan-10-10 02:17 AM   #220 
  - Mmm-hmm. Yeah, it's Nader's fault. That makes sense.  Marr   Jan-09-10 04:56 PM   #209 
  - Perhaps not "just as responsible", but I'm so glad you said this.  johan helge   Jan-09-10 05:52 PM   #212 
  - It's been a decade - get over it already.  Meldread   Jan-09-10 06:21 PM   #213 
  - The shamelessness of the Naderites  johan helge   Jan-10-10 02:02 AM   #219 
  - No he's not, but his actions were irresponsible  Hippo_Tron   Jan-09-10 06:27 PM   #214 
  - This OP is a good reason never to post when stinking drunk.  Prometheus Bound   Jan-10-10 05:21 AM   #225 
 

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