ProSense
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Wed Jan-06-10 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 20. "The decline in December was the smallest since March of 2008." |
| - ADP: 84,000 Jobs Whacked In December, Worse Than Expected |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 05:57 PM |
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There you go again.....raining on the faux recovery parade. |
marmar |
Jan-06-10 05:57 PM |
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May I borrow your paddle? |
icnorth |
Jan-06-10 06:02 PM |
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Don't worry they'll be here in a few minutes |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:03 PM |
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The Economic Brownshirts, as I refer to them. |
TheWatcher |
Jan-06-10 07:12 PM |
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Yep |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 07:15 PM |
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Name removed |
Jan-06-10 07:19 PM |
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Why do they hate me so much more than you |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:02 PM |
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"The December employment decline was the smallest since March of 2008." |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 06:06 PM |
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You cut a man's throat |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:07 PM |
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You give a sick patient an antibiotic and they start getting better... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 06:10 PM |
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WTF are you babbling about now |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:12 PM |
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You show an idiot the truth and they dutifily Ignore it. |
TheWatcher |
Jan-06-10 07:14 PM |
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Yes, I know. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 08:53 PM |
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Ahhhhh, it's so pleasant when all you see is "Ignored" |
TheWatcher |
Jan-07-10 02:36 PM |
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I wonder how many of those lost manufacturing/goods producing jobs were sent overseas. |
Selatius |
Jan-06-10 05:59 PM |
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Probably most of them |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:04 PM |
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I would say a very sizable portion went overseas, at least in manufacturing |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 06:04 PM |
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A friend of mine was a plant executive. |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 06:10 PM |
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Yep. That's sadly how it works |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 06:14 PM |
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oh they recognize it..it is part of the plan!! eom |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 06:35 PM |
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How ya doin' Fly? |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 06:44 PM |
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burrrrr....I was warm in LA..now freezing here... |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 07:16 PM |
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Picked up a new puppy! |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 07:23 PM |
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Also, sales tax receipts were down 7.7% yoy in December. |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 06:06 PM |
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Online sales and gift cards |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:07 PM |
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shhhhh..i see some pom pom chewing in the corner..You are blowing their whole line of bullshit |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 06:39 PM |
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It's the weather! |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 06:52 PM |
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Nice spin |
ProSense |
Jan-06-10 06:08 PM |
#11 |
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There were jobs created in the Gift Card sector nt. |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:10 PM |
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You twisted a report with positive news to claim "worse than expected" n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-06-10 06:15 PM |
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75,000 what was expected. |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:16 PM |
#19 |
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"The decline in December was the smallest since March of 2008." |
ProSense |
Jan-06-10 06:18 PM |
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I linked |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:19 PM |
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And you're trying to spin a pretty bad report into something positive. |
girl gone mad |
Jan-06-10 06:29 PM |
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And anyone who thinks manufacturing and goods producing industries will start hiring |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 06:31 PM |
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Question |
ProSense |
Jan-06-10 06:33 PM |
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Of course it's better than at that point. But it still isn't positive |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 06:41 PM |
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"Of course it's better than at that point." |
ProSense |
Jan-06-10 06:47 PM |
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Let me ask you this.. From the horror of over 700,000 losing jobs.. |
Peacetrain |
Jan-06-10 06:48 PM |
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I expect if I got shot |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:51 PM |
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Well at least he did not leave you on the sidewalk to bleed to death.. |
Peacetrain |
Jan-06-10 06:53 PM |
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Revisions aren't going to happen from ADP hun |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:55 PM |
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from you article.. "private employment will begin rising within the next few months" |
Peacetrain |
Jan-06-10 06:58 PM |
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The number isn't going to be revised |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 07:00 PM |
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Hey you were the one that said |
Peacetrain |
Jan-06-10 07:11 PM |
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and I said they don't revise the ADP data |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 07:34 PM |
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:) |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 09:18 PM |
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In what sectors? |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 07:01 PM |
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Manufacturing report bolsters hopes for recovery |
Peacetrain |
Jan-06-10 07:15 PM |
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I've seen the article and the stats, I just hope it turns out to be real |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 07:21 PM |
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Where do they get their figures? |
LiberalAndProud |
Jan-06-10 07:10 PM |
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ADP is outsourced payroll |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 07:14 PM |
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Get back to me when the manufacturing and goods producing industries reverse |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 06:53 PM |
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I was wondering why my OP today on the 3 ways to create wealth got |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:54 PM |
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This is just ADP. They're ALWAYS lower, and usually wrong. |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 06:58 PM |
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ADP doesn't have every payroll in the country |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 07:06 PM |
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In something related, but nobody seems to have picked up on yet.... |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 06:50 PM |
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Translation Treasury bond interest rates are going up |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 06:52 PM |
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Our money is worth crap right now. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:49 PM |
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Fancy that. nt |
Cant trust em |
Jan-06-10 06:11 PM |
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From your own link, very troubling statistics: |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 06:18 PM |
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Name removed |
Jan-06-10 06:20 PM |
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January 2009, same sector (updated) |
ProSense |
Jan-06-10 06:20 PM |
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While the decline is lessening, where are the jobs being created? |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 06:26 PM |
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I'm sorry, the Propaganda you requested cannot be posted at this time |
TheWatcher |
Jan-06-10 08:33 PM |
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Good paying manufacturing jobs being replaced by low paying service-sector jobs. |
girl gone mad |
Jan-06-10 06:31 PM |
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Excellent point, and that is the problem |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 06:51 PM |
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But that doesn't fit in with the propaganda that so many spout |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 07:03 PM |
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When you follow the issue, it becomes clear |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:08 PM |
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THanks people don't get BASIC economics |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-10 07:01 PM |
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Hey Nadin |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 09:17 PM |
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Life's good |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-10 11:21 PM |
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No kidding. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-07-10 12:18 AM |
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Oh there is that |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-10 12:29 AM |
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From the Absolute QUEEN Of Spin. |
TheWatcher |
Jan-06-10 08:30 PM |
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+ 10000000000000!!! nt |
earth mom |
Jan-07-10 07:26 AM |
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All I can figure.... |
galileoreloaded |
Jan-06-10 08:50 PM |
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What a steaming pile of blatant horseshit - this was the BEST jobs report in 2 FUCKING YEARS |
jpak |
Jan-06-10 06:34 PM |
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Still nothing to write home about. |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 06:41 PM |
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The end of the worst recession in 80 years IS something to write home about |
jpak |
Jan-06-10 06:47 PM |
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But it hasn't ended. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:00 PM |
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We are smack dab in the middle of the woods |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 07:02 PM |
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If you just believe hard enough! |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 07:04 PM |
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I think all of the "Hope" has really clouded a lot of peoples minds |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 07:07 PM |
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Are they still talking about the W graph? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:09 PM |
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No - they are not |
jpak |
Jan-06-10 07:16 PM |
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The question was to Allentown Jake who actually keeps track of this |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:32 PM |
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My ignored is bothering you? |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 07:35 PM |
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They're eventually going to have to raise rates |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:55 PM |
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Zero Hedge and the Market Ticker are watching it |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 08:06 PM |
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OK, the Mortgage Backed Securities...these are the so-called toxic ones |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 09:23 PM |
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Bonuses nt. |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 09:24 PM |
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No! |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 09:27 PM |
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Hookers and Coke nt. |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 09:28 PM |
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Oh Jesus God! |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 09:29 PM |
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hehehe |
Bluebear |
Jan-06-10 10:13 PM |
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It's my tax money. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 10:31 PM |
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Ignored and with good reason |
jpak |
Jan-06-10 08:22 PM |
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The answer is still - no they are not |
jpak |
Jan-06-10 07:44 PM |
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Yes it has, US GDP was tanking at -6.4% in the 1st quarter of 2009 - it GREW at +2.2% in the 3rd Q |
jpak |
Jan-06-10 07:12 PM |
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Tell that to all of those still out of work, underinsured/uninsured, and having to take scraps |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 07:13 PM |
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Unemployment has peaked, is in decline and will keep on dropping this year |
jpak |
Jan-06-10 07:14 PM |
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"Hat in hand, U.S. turns to India to create jobs" |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:18 PM |
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The Horror - heaven forbid we encourage foreign investment to create US jobs |
jpak |
Jan-06-10 07:24 PM |
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You do realize that when a foreign country invests they take their profits back home right? |
Raineyb |
Jan-06-10 09:11 PM |
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Yeah, we sure are doomers and haters - but you apparently live in a fairy tale land |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 07:18 PM |
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"Silicon Valley 'Bloodbath' Leaves Entire Office Buildings Empty" |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:20 PM |
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"Personal Bankruptcy Filings Rising Fast" |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:22 PM |
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"Krugman Sees 30-40% Chance of U.S. Recession in 2010 (Update1)" |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:23 PM |
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Krugman sees 60-70% chance that we will NOT slide back into recession - BFD |
jpak |
Jan-06-10 07:25 PM |
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Here's where the cheerleaders turn on Krugman |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 07:26 PM |
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The fact that Krugman has any doubts at all and has publicized them |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:29 PM |
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Exactly right. |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 07:29 PM |
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He's also trying not to panic people: he doesn't work that way |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:39 PM |
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Here's more from Krugman: Beware the Blip |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:31 PM |
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Nikki, slow down. |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 07:31 PM |
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And then there's always the rising oil prices that could scuttle everything |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 07:34 PM |
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That's a bad thing? nt |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 07:36 PM |
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$100 bet most were over 45 and a 'drain' on company health ins |
704wipes |
Jan-06-10 06:48 PM |
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K & R Jake |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 06:52 PM |
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However, the good news is that 65,000 H1-B got jobs. You gotta see the positive side |
thunder rising |
Jan-06-10 07:13 PM |
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Bbbbbuttt those are jobs no American's want!!!! |
TornadoTN |
Jan-06-10 07:17 PM |
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. |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 07:35 PM |
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Cue: "DECEMBER??? OLD NEWS!!!" with a bunch of blue links |
Bluebear |
Jan-06-10 07:32 PM |
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Jan-06-10 07:37 PM |
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Kick |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-06-10 07:43 PM |
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K&R |
StarfarerBill |
Jan-06-10 07:50 PM |
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I hope the gift card industry is hiring engineers |
Canuckistanian |
Jan-06-10 07:59 PM |
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Huge growth in Gift Cards this year....huge, they saved Christmas. nt. |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 08:08 PM |
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You know, I believe it |
Canuckistanian |
Jan-06-10 08:11 PM |
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The online sale/gift card thing on my post yesterday |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 08:17 PM |
#110 |
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the government we elected in 2006 and 2008 to change things and save the economy |
WT Fuheck |
Jan-06-10 09:30 PM |
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AllentownJake with more misleading spin |
scheming daemons |
Jan-06-10 09:47 PM |
#125 |
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The story is from the Business Insider, not AllentownJake. |
girl gone mad |
Jan-06-10 10:03 PM |
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Do you want an answer to that question? nt. |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 10:14 PM |
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rofl |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 10:15 PM |
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"The Street was expecting a number around 75k" |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 10:35 PM |
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CNBS (CNBC) or made it up to attack my character. nt |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 11:07 PM |
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Please don't make me laugh |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 11:20 PM |
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This is a disaster. |
debbierlus |
Jan-06-10 09:48 PM |
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I keep reading on DU that 40 to 50 THOUSAND factories have closed since 2000. |
earth mom |
Jan-07-10 07:22 AM |
#138 |
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