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25. Cry baby cry, make your mother sign... she's old enough to know better...
So cry baby cry....


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  -Nader's on the front page of DU. LoZoccolo  Jan-06-10 02:53 PM   #0 
  - Yep, DU has just choked on the pretzel.  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 02:54 PM   #1 
  - Maybe we should go there.  LoZoccolo   Jan-06-10 03:01 PM   # 
     - Here is a suggestion, just in fun!  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 03:57 PM   #61 
     - Don't Let the Door Hit You.  Toasterlad   Jan-06-10 07:37 PM   #129 
     - DU was never a place where what non-Dems said was attacked simply because they WEREN'T Dems  Ken Burch   Jan-06-10 08:17 PM   #138 
        - It seems strange to some of us, that a place called "Democratic Underground"  suzie   Jan-07-10 10:52 AM   #187 
           - Nobody gets attacked for "admittihng they're a Democrat"  Ken Burch   Jan-07-10 09:13 PM   #199 
  - Damn democracy.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 02:57 PM   #2 
  - oh noes!  fishwax   Jan-06-10 03:00 PM   #3 
  - Is this still Democratic Underground?  grytpype   Jan-06-10 03:00 PM   #4 
  - As of a NAder thread with over 100 recs  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 03:01 PM   #5 
  - My reality based friend, Nader is not a Green or a Republican.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 03:02 PM   #7 
  - Nader most certainly IS a Republican  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 03:05 PM   #10 
  - And you apparently aren't careful enough to realize I'm not a sir.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 03:12 PM   #18 
  - You, madame, are NOT my friend  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 03:26 PM   #30 
  - you shouldn't be so quick to make and declare enemies  hfojvt   Jan-06-10 03:40 PM   #43 
  - I, btw, am not a "Nader voter". I'm someone who can see the name  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 03:43 PM   #47 
  - I cannot summon that kind of equanimity (apathy?) over betrayal so foul  hfojvt   Jan-06-10 04:59 PM   #89 
     - It's not apathy. It's education.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 05:16 PM   #94 
        - I keep saying. It's not about Florida.  hfojvt   Jan-06-10 05:19 PM   #95 
        - And he continues to pollute the waters  redqueen   Jan-06-10 05:26 PM   #104 
        - But it was about Florida. Florida got all the press, was the focal point  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 05:28 PM   #105 
        - The Bushes had Florida rigged, by anyone who took a look at the votes in Florida  suzie   Jan-07-10 10:56 AM   #189 
        - And Centrism Cost Pennsylvania ME in 2000.  Toasterlad   Jan-06-10 07:42 PM   #130 
        - >progessives would vote democrat instead  LoZoccolo   Jan-06-10 08:14 PM   #136 
           - Wow, You Are Really Reaching.  Toasterlad   Jan-07-10 12:26 AM   #167 
        - Newsflash: Al Gore won Oregon in 2000.  stevedeshazer   Jan-06-10 08:49 PM   #146 
           - I have linked this a number of times  hfojvt   Jan-07-10 12:18 AM   #166 
              - The Florida argument also overlooks that fact that, despite the Bush stealing of votes, it would  suzie   Jan-07-10 10:58 AM   #190 
        - Also, with respect, Al Gore ran a crappy campaign and was, let's say, less than welcoming  ShortnFiery   Jan-06-10 05:25 PM   #103 
        - I can't speak to that as at the time, had both hands full.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 05:30 PM   #107 
        - Just because you want to continue that fantasy, doesn't mean it's true.  suzie   Jan-07-10 10:54 AM   #188 
        - "Ralph Nader did not lose us that election. The Republican-rigged Florida vote did."  bertman   Jan-07-10 11:21 AM   #198 
  - There';s some mutually exlusive shit there  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 04:49 PM   #79 
     - You should consider taking your strawmen on the road.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 04:52 PM   #84 
     - sure you can  hfojvt   Jan-06-10 05:11 PM   #91 
     - No, you can't.  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 07:18 PM   #128 
        - Please.  H2O Man   Jan-06-10 08:35 PM   #139 
           - Not shallow at all  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 08:45 PM   #142 
              - Add incorrect  H2O Man   Jan-06-10 08:46 PM   #143 
                 - Failure to recognize how our system functions  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 08:47 PM   #145 
                    - Yes, you fail.  H2O Man   Jan-06-10 08:50 PM   #147 
                       - I've watched this shit for far too long  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 08:52 PM   #148 
                          - Not at all.  H2O Man   Jan-06-10 08:54 PM   #149 
                             - And my contempt for anybody who DARES call themself "progressive"  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 08:57 PM   #150 
                                - Wonderful.  H2O Man   Jan-06-10 09:03 PM   #151 
                                - And about .000000000001% of them post on DU  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 09:04 PM   #152 
                                - If you are convinced  H2O Man   Jan-06-10 09:06 PM   #153 
                                - My purity isn't threatned  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 09:07 PM   #154 
     - Your example is only mutually exclusive in bizzarro land where up is down  Raineyb   Jan-06-10 08:37 PM   #140 
  - What a pointless, pathetic declaration.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 03:42 PM   #45 
  - even the Magistrate gets that wrong sometimes, ma'am  hfojvt   Jan-06-10 03:30 PM   #32 
  - Nader is not a Republican, he is an independent leftist.  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 03:23 PM   #27 
  - Words are meaningless, results are everything.  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 03:26 PM   #29 
     - Words are not meaningless, though reading some stuff here might give that impression.  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 03:34 PM   #36 
     - George Bush thanks you for your NAder Support  WeDidIt   Jan-06-10 03:36 PM   #40 
        - Funny that. I have never supported him. Don't hate him either.  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 03:43 PM   #46 
        - Why are you trying to cover up  sabrina 1   Jan-06-10 06:59 PM   #123 
           - He's a "centrist"/DLCer.  girl gone mad   Jan-07-10 04:41 AM   #172 
              - I kind of thought so. Not much difference between them and rightwingnuts.  sabrina 1   Jan-07-10 05:35 AM   #176 
     - "Words are meaningless" Well thanks for summing up your posting philosophy  spoony   Jan-06-10 06:52 PM   #122 
  - Agree a thousand percent  Don Caballero   Jan-06-10 03:25 PM   #28 
  - Spoiler implies that Democrats are entitled to one's vote.  Raineyb   Jan-06-10 04:03 PM   #65 
  - Cliches R Us!  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 04:05 PM   #66 
  - Saying Nader is a Repulican is absurd.  Flaneur   Jan-06-10 04:09 PM   #67 
  - Oh good.  bvar22   Jan-06-10 04:50 PM   #81 
  - He's not a Republican, he just takes their money and doesn't give it back.  LoZoccolo   Jan-06-10 03:06 PM   #11 
  - Sigh. Do me a favor and run down for yourself our president's list  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 03:11 PM   #16 
  - yep  seeinfweggos   Jan-06-10 06:49 PM   #120 
  - I hate liars and racists.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-06-10 03:09 PM   #14 
  - +1  Soylent Brice   Jan-06-10 03:51 PM   #55 
  - +2. nt  DevonRex   Jan-06-10 03:52 PM   #56 
  - Apparently, you like some  Luminous Animal   Jan-06-10 03:54 PM   #58 
  - Nope.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-06-10 03:56 PM   #60 
     - So, tell me then, what makes Nader a racist?  Luminous Animal   Jan-06-10 04:16 PM   #68 
        - On being left out of the debates...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-06-10 04:25 PM   #71 
           - Wrong.  Luminous Animal   Jan-06-10 04:49 PM   #80 
           - Well there you go.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-06-10 04:58 PM   #87 
              - I don't find making a personal analogy to a strategy that, historically (& currently)  Luminous Animal   Jan-06-10 05:13 PM   #92 
                 - Oh, no, of course you don't believe Ralph Nader isn't a racist.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-06-10 05:14 PM   #93 
                    - So, you think that Ono is a racist, too?  Luminous Animal   Jan-06-10 05:20 PM   #97 
                       - Ono and Smith are using different contexts and are covered by artistic license.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-06-10 05:24 PM   #101 
                          - There was nothing wrong with Nader's context.  Luminous Animal   Jan-06-10 05:52 PM   #110 
           - So the book "The Student as Nigger" is racist???  kath   Jan-06-10 05:22 PM   #99 
              - No, but people making excuses for Nader are.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-06-10 05:24 PM   #102 
                 - So, you are calling me a racist?  Luminous Animal   Jan-06-10 05:58 PM   #112 
                    - what do you expect from a shitty gimmick?  d_b   Jan-06-10 09:58 PM   #160 
                    - I'd love to play cards with HFPS as he only carries one card with him.  Forkboy   Jan-07-10 08:16 AM   #181 
  - I believe that the hatred for Nader is racist.  sabrina 1   Jan-06-10 07:12 PM   #127 
     - Oh yeah, that Ralph Nader.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jan-06-10 09:13 PM   #156 
  - Nader is also not a democrat and oh we really did appreciate him giving us Bush  LynneSin   Jan-06-10 03:23 PM   #26 
  - I missed the part where Nader was on the Supreme Court.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 03:44 PM   #48 
  - Probably when you missed the part where Nadar kept screaming how Gore was no different than Bush  LynneSin   Jan-07-10 09:24 AM   #183 
  - Do you guys get together and learn the parrot talk?  RetroLounge   Jan-06-10 06:41 PM   #114 
  - Yes, 'your' reality  HughMoran   Jan-06-10 03:32 PM   #35 
  - Is it not permissible to criticize Nader on the Democratic Underground?  HughMoran   Jan-06-10 03:36 PM   #41 
  - Nader is for either one of them as long as they'll donate for him to run against Dems.  DevonRex   Jan-06-10 03:41 PM   #44 
     - Not really. He's a critic of the party for their caving in to money  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 03:45 PM   #50 
        - So he takes Republican money since they're so ethical and all.  DevonRex   Jan-06-10 03:53 PM   #57 
           - Go to Open Secrets and do a casual search for "republican" money.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 03:57 PM   #62 
           - Kerry recevied at least 10.7 million from Republicans in 2004. Ralph about $150,000.  Luminous Animal   Jan-06-10 04:17 PM   #69 
              - This Nader thing is irrational.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 04:41 PM   #75 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-06-10 06:42 PM   #115 
           - and Obama appoints Republicans to his administration..  girl gone mad   Jan-07-10 04:49 AM   #173 
  - I think you're confusing Nader with Republicans for Obama  Better Believe It   Jan-06-10 03:09 PM   #15 
  - Nadercratic Underground?  berni_mccoy   Jan-06-10 03:08 PM   #13 
  - Thing is, this thread will probably get locked or deleted, or maybe I'll get tombstoned.  LoZoccolo   Jan-06-10 03:12 PM   #17 
     - This is silly.  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 03:46 PM   #51 
     - Oh, don't do that.  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 04:57 PM   #86 
     - "or maybe I'll get tombstoned."  RetroLounge   Jan-06-10 06:42 PM   #116 
        - So, let' see. The agenda is this--hope that all those who are pro-Democrats  suzie   Jan-07-10 11:06 AM   #194 
  - Jealous?  Electric Monk   Jan-06-10 03:02 PM   #6 
  - Eeek! Get the smelling salts, Aunt Zoccolo's got the vapors!  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-06-10 03:04 PM   #8 
  - !  dionysus   Jan-06-10 03:05 PM   #9 
  - Dammit, you beat me to it. n/t  superduperfarleft   Jan-06-10 03:34 PM   #38 
  - LOL!!  flvegan   Jan-06-10 05:55 PM   #111 
  - And what the hell is a Wonderwall anyhow?  RetroLounge   Jan-06-10 06:43 PM   #117 
     - It's a movie. George Harrison wrote the soundtrack. n/t  LoZoccolo   Jan-06-10 09:14 PM   #157 
  - I'm sorry, did you say something?  TheWatcher   Jan-06-10 03:07 PM   #12 
  - One ought to study how Nader put his ideas into action thirty or forty-five years ago:  struggle4progress   Jan-06-10 03:13 PM   #19 
  - Don't worry. This isn't the real world.  onehandle   Jan-06-10 03:18 PM   #20 
  - Right. He won't be real until Rahm issues orders to ignore him  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 03:20 PM   #22 
  - Man who singlehandedly did more to give us eight years of W Bush, on the front page with recs galore  apocalypsehow   Jan-06-10 03:19 PM   #21 
  - Nader was on the supreme court?  RetroLounge   Jan-06-10 06:44 PM   #118 
  - There would have been no "supreme court" (Sic) intervention had not nutty Nader's massive ego led  apocalypsehow   Jan-06-10 10:52 PM   #164 
  - Nine years later and you're still ignorant of the facts  sabrina 1   Jan-06-10 07:06 PM   #125 
     - Nine years later and you're still aping those Germans who said "we didn't mean for Hitler to  apocalypsehow   Jan-06-10 10:57 PM   #165 
     - Wow! That post explains everything. I definitely  sabrina 1   Jan-07-10 12:28 AM   #168 
     - No, you're the one who is ignorant of the facts of the 2000 election.  suzie   Jan-07-10 11:09 AM   #195 
  - Guess you'd better start a K & R if you love  Starry Messenger   Jan-06-10 03:21 PM   #23 
  - Oasis sucks. Really.  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 03:32 PM   #34 
     - There's some history in this area.  Starry Messenger   Jan-06-10 03:35 PM   #39 
        - I searched! 2005-6 especially rich in references.  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 03:44 PM   #49 
           - I thought you'd get a kick out of that.  Starry Messenger   Jan-06-10 04:00 PM   #64 
              - Instant nostalgia's gonna get you! nt.  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 04:33 PM   #72 
  - Is a shit statement  AllentownJake   Jan-06-10 03:21 PM   #24 
  - Cry baby cry, make your mother sign... she's old enough to know better...  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 03:22 PM   #25 
  - EEEEEEEEEEY  Capn Sunshine   Jan-06-10 03:27 PM   #31 
  - I view that as a positive testament to the democratic process with ideas and issues rising or  Uncle Joe   Jan-06-10 03:31 PM   #33 
  - ZOMG What is the world coming to???!!!  superduperfarleft   Jan-06-10 03:34 PM   #37 
  - Does anyone really listen to Nader anymore?  Nikki Stone1   Jan-06-10 03:38 PM   #42 
  - How dare many people recommend something I don't like!  JelloSka   Jan-06-10 03:47 PM   #52 
  - Don't you get it? "Nader" is a BOOGAH!! word...  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 04:38 PM   #74 
  - Far better he than LOLOLZocco, says I! nt  Romulox   Jan-06-10 03:48 PM   #53 
  - +1  FLAprogressive   Jan-06-10 04:51 PM   #83 
  - may the members of Oasis catch leprosy and perish.  dionysus   Jan-06-10 03:49 PM   #54 
  - ZOMG. Nader's in Oasis?????? Is he the snotty brother or the one  DevonRex   Jan-06-10 03:54 PM   #59 
  - I thought he joined the Jonas Brothers!  freddie mertz   Jan-06-10 04:35 PM   #73 
     - OMG.  DevonRex   Jan-06-10 06:34 PM   #113 
  - I always figured the brothers would knife each other or something nt  spoony   Jan-06-10 07:01 PM   #124 
  - Why are some people so obsessed with Nader? I don't get it. Surely, he is  change_notfinetuning   Jan-06-10 03:58 PM   #63 
  - Conditioning. It's a pavlovian response to a strategy cooked up by the power brokers...  Luminous Animal   Jan-06-10 04:54 PM   #85 
  - I clutched my pearls so hard the string broke.  QC   Jan-06-10 04:19 PM   #70 
  - LOL  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 04:50 PM   #82 
  - ...  Ignis   Jan-06-10 05:00 PM   #90 
  - LOL  leftstreet   Jan-06-10 10:23 PM   #162 
  - I gave it a kick just for you!  Tailormyst   Jan-06-10 04:42 PM   #76 
  - So is a video of Nancy Pelosi explaining away the public optiom.  rug   Jan-06-10 04:47 PM   #77 
  - ralph nader is a republican whore  seeinfweggos   Jan-06-10 04:49 PM   #78 
  - Ralph Nader did not elect Bush. The fact is, that election was filthy  EFerrari   Jan-06-10 04:58 PM   #88 
     - No, Nader chose to elect Bush.  suzie   Jan-07-10 11:10 AM   #196 
  - dooga, dooga. dooga!  KG   Jan-06-10 05:20 PM   #96 
  - Won't read...he sucks...I  laylah   Jan-06-10 05:21 PM   #98 
  - It's too damn easy to push your buttons LoZoccolo. eom  ShortnFiery   Jan-06-10 05:23 PM   #100 
  - I don't like him, but he's right. Deal with it.  Edweird   Jan-06-10 05:29 PM   #106 
  - How Bout a Little Street Theatre?  janx   Jan-06-10 05:30 PM   #108 
  - Nader isn't the Democrats' problem. He is a reminder of what is.  mmonk   Jan-06-10 05:31 PM   #109 
  - Bingo.  Toasterlad   Jan-06-10 07:47 PM   #131 
  - Best post in the whole damn thread.  Forkboy   Jan-07-10 08:29 AM   #182 
  - "You know, FOX turned into a hard core sex channel so gradually, I didn't even notice. "  Mayberry Machiavelli   Jan-06-10 06:46 PM   #119 
  - Nader? Eh doesn't afraid of anything. nt  spoony   Jan-06-10 06:51 PM   #121 
  - He's a scum bag, but he has a following among the immature.  TexasObserver   Jan-06-10 07:11 PM   #126 
  - so Republicans voted for Nader?  ima_sinnic   Jan-06-10 07:50 PM   #132 
  - Thanks for proving my point.  TexasObserver   Jan-06-10 08:01 PM   #133 
     - No kidding.  LoZoccolo   Jan-06-10 08:05 PM   #134 
     - your "point" is shit  ima_sinnic   Jan-06-10 09:42 PM   #159 
        - My point is that immaturity compels support for Nader.  TexasObserver   Jan-06-10 10:21 PM   #161 
           - awww, somebody didn't vote the way you wanted them to?  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 02:52 AM   #171 
              - And you consistently prove my point.  TexasObserver   Jan-07-10 05:24 AM   #175 
                 - you got nothing. People didn't vote for Gore because they didn't want to  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 06:40 AM   #177 
                    - Ralph Nader, and the fools who voted for him in key states, cost Gore the presidency.  TexasObserver   Jan-07-10 07:58 AM   #180 
                       - oh boo hoo, people voted in a democracy for the candidate they wanted  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 10:41 AM   #185 
                          - When you can communicate as an adult, get back to me.  TexasObserver   Jan-07-10 10:43 AM   #186 
                             - oh, okay, I get it: when I agree with you, get back to you  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 11:04 AM   #193 
  - Pot meet kettle.  Raineyb   Jan-06-10 08:42 PM   #141 
     - See, just like that.  TexasObserver   Jan-06-10 08:46 PM   #144 
        - Ralph Nader is not a Democrat. And if Democrats actually GOVERNED  Raineyb   Jan-07-10 01:36 AM   #170 
           - There are several who are responsible, and Nader is one of them.  TexasObserver   Jan-07-10 05:22 AM   #174 
           - so everybody who voted for Nader would have voted for Gore?  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 06:44 AM   #178 
              - Your posts reveal an inability to think about this logically.  TexasObserver   Jan-07-10 07:55 AM   #179 
                 - but many people who didn't vote at all "would have" voted for Gore  ima_sinnic   Jan-07-10 10:39 AM   #184 
           - Just because Nader was under no obligation to make it easy for Democrats doesn't mean  suzie   Jan-07-10 11:12 AM   #197 
  - Why Do This?????  nomaco-10   Jan-06-10 08:09 PM   #135 
  - Look, the fact that Nader was the one making the good observations doesn't discredit them  Ken Burch   Jan-06-10 08:15 PM   #137 
  - Well...  LoZoccolo   Jan-06-10 09:07 PM   #155 
  - Nader represents Democratic values. Too many Democrats don't know what that even means  Fading Captain   Jan-06-10 09:16 PM   #158 
  - Over 150 replies, and still negative recs  RetroLounge   Jan-06-10 10:40 PM   #163 
  - Well let's see here.  LoZoccolo   Jan-07-10 01:05 AM   #169 
     - You mean "popular" doesn't mean "right"?  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-07-10 11:00 AM   #191 
  - I thought it was all those Jewish voters in West Palm that voted for Buchanan!  Dr.Phool   Jan-07-10 11:00 AM   #192 
 

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