| Maybe we should go there. |
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I just keep thinking...where do we go? I used to like having a place to be a Democrat. I don't really have the time to put in to starting somewhere like DU used to be. I wonder where the reasonable people went. Maybe they're smart and stay completely off the net.
|
| -Nader's on the front page of DU. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-06-10 02:53 PM |
#0 |
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Yep, DU has just choked on the pretzel. |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 02:54 PM |
#1 |
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Maybe we should go there. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-06-10 03:01 PM |
# |
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Here is a suggestion, just in fun! |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 03:57 PM |
#61 |
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Don't Let the Door Hit You. |
Toasterlad |
Jan-06-10 07:37 PM |
#129 |
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DU was never a place where what non-Dems said was attacked simply because they WEREN'T Dems |
Ken Burch |
Jan-06-10 08:17 PM |
#138 |
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It seems strange to some of us, that a place called "Democratic Underground" |
suzie |
Jan-07-10 10:52 AM |
#187 |
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Nobody gets attacked for "admittihng they're a Democrat" |
Ken Burch |
Jan-07-10 09:13 PM |
#199 |
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Damn democracy. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 02:57 PM |
#2 |
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oh noes! |
fishwax |
Jan-06-10 03:00 PM |
#3 |
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Is this still Democratic Underground? |
grytpype |
Jan-06-10 03:00 PM |
#4 |
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As of a NAder thread with over 100 recs |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 03:01 PM |
#5 |
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My reality based friend, Nader is not a Green or a Republican. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 03:02 PM |
#7 |
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Nader most certainly IS a Republican |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 03:05 PM |
#10 |
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And you apparently aren't careful enough to realize I'm not a sir. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 03:12 PM |
#18 |
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You, madame, are NOT my friend |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 03:26 PM |
#30 |
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you shouldn't be so quick to make and declare enemies |
hfojvt |
Jan-06-10 03:40 PM |
#43 |
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I, btw, am not a "Nader voter". I'm someone who can see the name |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 03:43 PM |
#47 |
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I cannot summon that kind of equanimity (apathy?) over betrayal so foul |
hfojvt |
Jan-06-10 04:59 PM |
#89 |
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It's not apathy. It's education. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 05:16 PM |
#94 |
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I keep saying. It's not about Florida. |
hfojvt |
Jan-06-10 05:19 PM |
#95 |
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And he continues to pollute the waters |
redqueen |
Jan-06-10 05:26 PM |
#104 |
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But it was about Florida. Florida got all the press, was the focal point |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 05:28 PM |
#105 |
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The Bushes had Florida rigged, by anyone who took a look at the votes in Florida |
suzie |
Jan-07-10 10:56 AM |
#189 |
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And Centrism Cost Pennsylvania ME in 2000. |
Toasterlad |
Jan-06-10 07:42 PM |
#130 |
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>progessives would vote democrat instead |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-06-10 08:14 PM |
#136 |
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Wow, You Are Really Reaching. |
Toasterlad |
Jan-07-10 12:26 AM |
#167 |
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Newsflash: Al Gore won Oregon in 2000. |
stevedeshazer |
Jan-06-10 08:49 PM |
#146 |
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I have linked this a number of times |
hfojvt |
Jan-07-10 12:18 AM |
#166 |
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The Florida argument also overlooks that fact that, despite the Bush stealing of votes, it would |
suzie |
Jan-07-10 10:58 AM |
#190 |
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Also, with respect, Al Gore ran a crappy campaign and was, let's say, less than welcoming |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-06-10 05:25 PM |
#103 |
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I can't speak to that as at the time, had both hands full. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 05:30 PM |
#107 |
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Just because you want to continue that fantasy, doesn't mean it's true. |
suzie |
Jan-07-10 10:54 AM |
#188 |
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"Ralph Nader did not lose us that election. The Republican-rigged Florida vote did." |
bertman |
Jan-07-10 11:21 AM |
#198 |
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There';s some mutually exlusive shit there |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 04:49 PM |
#79 |
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You should consider taking your strawmen on the road. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 04:52 PM |
#84 |
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sure you can |
hfojvt |
Jan-06-10 05:11 PM |
#91 |
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No, you can't. |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 07:18 PM |
#128 |
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Please. |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-10 08:35 PM |
#139 |
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Not shallow at all |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 08:45 PM |
#142 |
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Add incorrect |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-10 08:46 PM |
#143 |
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Failure to recognize how our system functions |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 08:47 PM |
#145 |
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Yes, you fail. |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-10 08:50 PM |
#147 |
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I've watched this shit for far too long |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 08:52 PM |
#148 |
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Not at all. |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-10 08:54 PM |
#149 |
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And my contempt for anybody who DARES call themself "progressive" |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 08:57 PM |
#150 |
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Wonderful. |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-10 09:03 PM |
#151 |
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And about .000000000001% of them post on DU |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 09:04 PM |
#152 |
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If you are convinced |
H2O Man |
Jan-06-10 09:06 PM |
#153 |
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My purity isn't threatned |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 09:07 PM |
#154 |
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Your example is only mutually exclusive in bizzarro land where up is down |
Raineyb |
Jan-06-10 08:37 PM |
#140 |
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What a pointless, pathetic declaration. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 03:42 PM |
#45 |
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even the Magistrate gets that wrong sometimes, ma'am |
hfojvt |
Jan-06-10 03:30 PM |
#32 |
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Nader is not a Republican, he is an independent leftist. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 03:23 PM |
#27 |
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Words are meaningless, results are everything. |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 03:26 PM |
#29 |
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Words are not meaningless, though reading some stuff here might give that impression. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 03:34 PM |
#36 |
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George Bush thanks you for your NAder Support |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 03:36 PM |
#40 |
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Funny that. I have never supported him. Don't hate him either. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 03:43 PM |
#46 |
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Why are you trying to cover up |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-06-10 06:59 PM |
#123 |
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He's a "centrist"/DLCer. |
girl gone mad |
Jan-07-10 04:41 AM |
#172 |
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I kind of thought so. Not much difference between them and rightwingnuts. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-07-10 05:35 AM |
#176 |
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"Words are meaningless" Well thanks for summing up your posting philosophy |
spoony |
Jan-06-10 06:52 PM |
#122 |
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Agree a thousand percent |
Don Caballero |
Jan-06-10 03:25 PM |
#28 |
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Spoiler implies that Democrats are entitled to one's vote. |
Raineyb |
Jan-06-10 04:03 PM |
#65 |
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Cliches R Us! |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 04:05 PM |
#66 |
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Saying Nader is a Repulican is absurd. |
Flaneur |
Jan-06-10 04:09 PM |
#67 |
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Oh good. |
bvar22 |
Jan-06-10 04:50 PM |
#81 |
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He's not a Republican, he just takes their money and doesn't give it back. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-06-10 03:06 PM |
#11 |
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Sigh. Do me a favor and run down for yourself our president's list |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 03:11 PM |
#16 |
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yep |
seeinfweggos |
Jan-06-10 06:49 PM |
#120 |
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I hate liars and racists. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 03:09 PM |
#14 |
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+1 |
Soylent Brice |
Jan-06-10 03:51 PM |
#55 |
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+2. nt |
DevonRex |
Jan-06-10 03:52 PM |
#56 |
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Apparently, you like some |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-06-10 03:54 PM |
#58 |
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Nope. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 03:56 PM |
#60 |
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So, tell me then, what makes Nader a racist? |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-06-10 04:16 PM |
#68 |
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On being left out of the debates... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 04:25 PM |
#71 |
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Wrong. |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-06-10 04:49 PM |
#80 |
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Well there you go. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 04:58 PM |
#87 |
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I don't find making a personal analogy to a strategy that, historically (& currently) |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-06-10 05:13 PM |
#92 |
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Oh, no, of course you don't believe Ralph Nader isn't a racist. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 05:14 PM |
#93 |
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So, you think that Ono is a racist, too? |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-06-10 05:20 PM |
#97 |
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Ono and Smith are using different contexts and are covered by artistic license. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 05:24 PM |
#101 |
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There was nothing wrong with Nader's context. |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-06-10 05:52 PM |
#110 |
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So the book "The Student as Nigger" is racist??? |
kath |
Jan-06-10 05:22 PM |
#99 |
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No, but people making excuses for Nader are. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 05:24 PM |
#102 |
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So, you are calling me a racist? |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-06-10 05:58 PM |
#112 |
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what do you expect from a shitty gimmick? |
d_b |
Jan-06-10 09:58 PM |
#160 |
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I'd love to play cards with HFPS as he only carries one card with him. |
Forkboy |
Jan-07-10 08:16 AM |
#181 |
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I believe that the hatred for Nader is racist. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-06-10 07:12 PM |
#127 |
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Oh yeah, that Ralph Nader. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-06-10 09:13 PM |
#156 |
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Nader is also not a democrat and oh we really did appreciate him giving us Bush |
LynneSin |
Jan-06-10 03:23 PM |
#26 |
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I missed the part where Nader was on the Supreme Court. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 03:44 PM |
#48 |
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Probably when you missed the part where Nadar kept screaming how Gore was no different than Bush |
LynneSin |
Jan-07-10 09:24 AM |
#183 |
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Do you guys get together and learn the parrot talk? |
RetroLounge |
Jan-06-10 06:41 PM |
#114 |
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Yes, 'your' reality |
HughMoran |
Jan-06-10 03:32 PM |
#35 |
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Is it not permissible to criticize Nader on the Democratic Underground? |
HughMoran |
Jan-06-10 03:36 PM |
#41 |
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Nader is for either one of them as long as they'll donate for him to run against Dems. |
DevonRex |
Jan-06-10 03:41 PM |
#44 |
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Not really. He's a critic of the party for their caving in to money |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 03:45 PM |
#50 |
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So he takes Republican money since they're so ethical and all. |
DevonRex |
Jan-06-10 03:53 PM |
#57 |
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Go to Open Secrets and do a casual search for "republican" money. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 03:57 PM |
#62 |
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Kerry recevied at least 10.7 million from Republicans in 2004. Ralph about $150,000. |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-06-10 04:17 PM |
#69 |
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This Nader thing is irrational. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 04:41 PM |
#75 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-06-10 06:42 PM |
#115 |
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and Obama appoints Republicans to his administration.. |
girl gone mad |
Jan-07-10 04:49 AM |
#173 |
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I think you're confusing Nader with Republicans for Obama |
Better Believe It |
Jan-06-10 03:09 PM |
#15 |
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Nadercratic Underground? |
berni_mccoy |
Jan-06-10 03:08 PM |
#13 |
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Thing is, this thread will probably get locked or deleted, or maybe I'll get tombstoned. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-06-10 03:12 PM |
#17 |
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This is silly. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 03:46 PM |
#51 |
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Oh, don't do that. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 04:57 PM |
#86 |
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"or maybe I'll get tombstoned." |
RetroLounge |
Jan-06-10 06:42 PM |
#116 |
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So, let' see. The agenda is this--hope that all those who are pro-Democrats |
suzie |
Jan-07-10 11:06 AM |
#194 |
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Jealous? |
Electric Monk |
Jan-06-10 03:02 PM |
#6 |
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Eeek! Get the smelling salts, Aunt Zoccolo's got the vapors! |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-06-10 03:04 PM |
#8 |
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! |
dionysus |
Jan-06-10 03:05 PM |
#9 |
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Dammit, you beat me to it. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-06-10 03:34 PM |
#38 |
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LOL!! |
flvegan |
Jan-06-10 05:55 PM |
#111 |
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And what the hell is a Wonderwall anyhow? |
RetroLounge |
Jan-06-10 06:43 PM |
#117 |
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It's a movie. George Harrison wrote the soundtrack. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-06-10 09:14 PM |
#157 |
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I'm sorry, did you say something? |
TheWatcher |
Jan-06-10 03:07 PM |
#12 |
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One ought to study how Nader put his ideas into action thirty or forty-five years ago: |
struggle4progress |
Jan-06-10 03:13 PM |
#19 |
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Don't worry. This isn't the real world. |
onehandle |
Jan-06-10 03:18 PM |
#20 |
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Right. He won't be real until Rahm issues orders to ignore him |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 03:20 PM |
#22 |
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Man who singlehandedly did more to give us eight years of W Bush, on the front page with recs galore |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-06-10 03:19 PM |
#21 |
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Nader was on the supreme court? |
RetroLounge |
Jan-06-10 06:44 PM |
#118 |
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There would have been no "supreme court" (Sic) intervention had not nutty Nader's massive ego led |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-06-10 10:52 PM |
#164 |
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Nine years later and you're still ignorant of the facts |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-06-10 07:06 PM |
#125 |
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Nine years later and you're still aping those Germans who said "we didn't mean for Hitler to |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-06-10 10:57 PM |
#165 |
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Wow! That post explains everything. I definitely |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-07-10 12:28 AM |
#168 |
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No, you're the one who is ignorant of the facts of the 2000 election. |
suzie |
Jan-07-10 11:09 AM |
#195 |
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Guess you'd better start a K & R if you love |
Starry Messenger |
Jan-06-10 03:21 PM |
#23 |
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Oasis sucks. Really. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 03:32 PM |
#34 |
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There's some history in this area. |
Starry Messenger |
Jan-06-10 03:35 PM |
#39 |
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I searched! 2005-6 especially rich in references. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 03:44 PM |
#49 |
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I thought you'd get a kick out of that. |
Starry Messenger |
Jan-06-10 04:00 PM |
#64 |
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Instant nostalgia's gonna get you! nt. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 04:33 PM |
#72 |
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Is a shit statement |
AllentownJake |
Jan-06-10 03:21 PM |
#24 |
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Cry baby cry, make your mother sign... she's old enough to know better... |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 03:22 PM |
#25 |
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EEEEEEEEEEY |
Capn Sunshine |
Jan-06-10 03:27 PM |
#31 |
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I view that as a positive testament to the democratic process with ideas and issues rising or |
Uncle Joe |
Jan-06-10 03:31 PM |
#33 |
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ZOMG What is the world coming to???!!! |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-06-10 03:34 PM |
#37 |
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Does anyone really listen to Nader anymore? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jan-06-10 03:38 PM |
#42 |
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How dare many people recommend something I don't like! |
JelloSka |
Jan-06-10 03:47 PM |
#52 |
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Don't you get it? "Nader" is a BOOGAH!! word... |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 04:38 PM |
#74 |
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Far better he than LOLOLZocco, says I! nt |
Romulox |
Jan-06-10 03:48 PM |
#53 |
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+1 |
FLAprogressive |
Jan-06-10 04:51 PM |
#83 |
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may the members of Oasis catch leprosy and perish. |
dionysus |
Jan-06-10 03:49 PM |
#54 |
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ZOMG. Nader's in Oasis?????? Is he the snotty brother or the one |
DevonRex |
Jan-06-10 03:54 PM |
#59 |
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I thought he joined the Jonas Brothers! |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 04:35 PM |
#73 |
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OMG. |
DevonRex |
Jan-06-10 06:34 PM |
#113 |
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I always figured the brothers would knife each other or something nt |
spoony |
Jan-06-10 07:01 PM |
#124 |
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Why are some people so obsessed with Nader? I don't get it. Surely, he is |
change_notfinetuning |
Jan-06-10 03:58 PM |
#63 |
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Conditioning. It's a pavlovian response to a strategy cooked up by the power brokers... |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-06-10 04:54 PM |
#85 |
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I clutched my pearls so hard the string broke. |
QC |
Jan-06-10 04:19 PM |
#70 |
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LOL |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 04:50 PM |
#82 |
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... |
Ignis |
Jan-06-10 05:00 PM |
#90 |
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LOL |
leftstreet |
Jan-06-10 10:23 PM |
#162 |
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I gave it a kick just for you! |
Tailormyst |
Jan-06-10 04:42 PM |
#76 |
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So is a video of Nancy Pelosi explaining away the public optiom. |
rug |
Jan-06-10 04:47 PM |
#77 |
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ralph nader is a republican whore |
seeinfweggos |
Jan-06-10 04:49 PM |
#78 |
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Ralph Nader did not elect Bush. The fact is, that election was filthy |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 04:58 PM |
#88 |
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No, Nader chose to elect Bush. |
suzie |
Jan-07-10 11:10 AM |
#196 |
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dooga, dooga. dooga! |
KG |
Jan-06-10 05:20 PM |
#96 |
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Won't read...he sucks...I |
laylah |
Jan-06-10 05:21 PM |
#98 |
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It's too damn easy to push your buttons LoZoccolo. eom |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-06-10 05:23 PM |
#100 |
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I don't like him, but he's right. Deal with it. |
Edweird |
Jan-06-10 05:29 PM |
#106 |
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How Bout a Little Street Theatre? |
janx |
Jan-06-10 05:30 PM |
#108 |
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Nader isn't the Democrats' problem. He is a reminder of what is. |
mmonk |
Jan-06-10 05:31 PM |
#109 |
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Bingo. |
Toasterlad |
Jan-06-10 07:47 PM |
#131 |
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Best post in the whole damn thread. |
Forkboy |
Jan-07-10 08:29 AM |
#182 |
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"You know, FOX turned into a hard core sex channel so gradually, I didn't even notice. " |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Jan-06-10 06:46 PM |
#119 |
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Nader? Eh doesn't afraid of anything. nt |
spoony |
Jan-06-10 06:51 PM |
#121 |
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He's a scum bag, but he has a following among the immature. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-06-10 07:11 PM |
#126 |
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so Republicans voted for Nader? |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-06-10 07:50 PM |
#132 |
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Thanks for proving my point. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-06-10 08:01 PM |
#133 |
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No kidding. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-06-10 08:05 PM |
#134 |
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your "point" is shit |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-06-10 09:42 PM |
#159 |
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My point is that immaturity compels support for Nader. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-06-10 10:21 PM |
#161 |
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awww, somebody didn't vote the way you wanted them to? |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-07-10 02:52 AM |
#171 |
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And you consistently prove my point. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-07-10 05:24 AM |
#175 |
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you got nothing. People didn't vote for Gore because they didn't want to |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-07-10 06:40 AM |
#177 |
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Ralph Nader, and the fools who voted for him in key states, cost Gore the presidency. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-07-10 07:58 AM |
#180 |
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oh boo hoo, people voted in a democracy for the candidate they wanted |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-07-10 10:41 AM |
#185 |
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When you can communicate as an adult, get back to me. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-07-10 10:43 AM |
#186 |
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oh, okay, I get it: when I agree with you, get back to you |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-07-10 11:04 AM |
#193 |
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Pot meet kettle. |
Raineyb |
Jan-06-10 08:42 PM |
#141 |
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See, just like that. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-06-10 08:46 PM |
#144 |
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Ralph Nader is not a Democrat. And if Democrats actually GOVERNED |
Raineyb |
Jan-07-10 01:36 AM |
#170 |
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There are several who are responsible, and Nader is one of them. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-07-10 05:22 AM |
#174 |
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so everybody who voted for Nader would have voted for Gore? |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-07-10 06:44 AM |
#178 |
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Your posts reveal an inability to think about this logically. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-07-10 07:55 AM |
#179 |
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but many people who didn't vote at all "would have" voted for Gore |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-07-10 10:39 AM |
#184 |
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Just because Nader was under no obligation to make it easy for Democrats doesn't mean |
suzie |
Jan-07-10 11:12 AM |
#197 |
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Why Do This????? |
nomaco-10 |
Jan-06-10 08:09 PM |
#135 |
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Look, the fact that Nader was the one making the good observations doesn't discredit them |
Ken Burch |
Jan-06-10 08:15 PM |
#137 |
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Well... |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-06-10 09:07 PM |
#155 |
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Nader represents Democratic values. Too many Democrats don't know what that even means |
Fading Captain |
Jan-06-10 09:16 PM |
#158 |
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Over 150 replies, and still negative recs |
RetroLounge |
Jan-06-10 10:40 PM |
#163 |
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Well let's see here. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-07-10 01:05 AM |
#169 |
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You mean "popular" doesn't mean "right"? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-07-10 11:00 AM |
#191 |
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I thought it was all those Jewish voters in West Palm that voted for Buchanan! |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-07-10 11:00 AM |
#192 |