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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 01:59 PM
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25. It has been oft commented on here that Nixon would be a flaming liberal by today's standards.
We didn't come to this place overnight. It has been in motion since Jimmy Carter was in office. To expect that moving the country further to the right in order to make our point to the Dems just doesn't make sense to me.

Points two and four cannot be discounted.

I suspect that progressive Democrats did stay home when Gore was defeated. There were many who really meant to send a message with their Nader vote. So here we are, when Republicans are able to paint Obama as a "socialist" and "communist" exactly because the perception of right and left have been skewed.

Progressives will not serve their cause by dropping out of the process.
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  -Imagine progressives boycotting a national election. Vattel  Jan-06-10 01:03 PM   #0 
  - Republicans count on Dems not voting. Look at what happened in VA. nt  Captain Hilts   Jan-06-10 01:05 PM   #1 
  - see reply to objection 2  Vattel   Jan-06-10 01:07 PM   #3 
  - I'm beginning to think Democrats count on Democrats not voting. nt  laughingliberal   Jan-06-10 02:05 PM   #28 
  - Let me stop you at Number 2.  Robb   Jan-06-10 01:07 PM   #2 
  - good point  Vattel   Jan-06-10 01:08 PM   #4 
  - I would like to point out that Bush/Cheney used the power of the White House  NJmaverick   Jan-06-10 01:09 PM   #5 
  - When the state Democratic convention ends...  derby378   Jan-06-10 01:09 PM   #6 
  - When people refused to vote in California Schwatzenegger's fans voted him in  lunatica   Jan-06-10 01:10 PM   #7 
  - Sometimes, when "progress" is at a dead-end, it is NECESSARY to backtrack and detour to  T Wolf   Jan-06-10 01:12 PM   #8 
  - I think voting for candidates of progressive parties (Socialist, Green, etc.) would be preferable...  StarfarerBill   Jan-06-10 01:12 PM   #9 
  - What I had in mind was a very well-publicized boycott  Vattel   Jan-06-10 01:20 PM   #12 
  - Imagine conservatives sweeping that same election  slackmaster   Jan-06-10 01:15 PM   #10 
  - No. Just... no.  gcomeau   Jan-06-10 01:20 PM   #11 
  - I made no such assumption.  Vattel   Jan-06-10 01:27 PM   #16 
     - It is nowhere near uncertain.  gcomeau   Jan-06-10 02:05 PM   #26 
        - Keep in mind,  Vattel   Jan-06-10 02:17 PM   #31 
  - With regard to objection 4...  FiveGoodMen   Jan-06-10 01:21 PM   #13 
  - Didn't this line of thinking give us eight years of Bush  SpartanDem   Jan-06-10 01:23 PM   #14 
  - Fuck that shit. (nt)  w4rma   Jan-06-10 01:23 PM   #15 
  - Well, working "from the inside" hasn't worked. If they want our votes, let them earn them.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-06-10 01:30 PM   #17 
  - RE: Number two. Are you kidding??  cliffordu   Jan-06-10 01:34 PM   #18 
  - They're too dumb to realize that they keep doing the same thing over  Kahuna   Jan-06-10 01:58 PM   #23 
  - Doing the same thing over and over?  Vattel   Jan-06-10 02:09 PM   #29 
     - That's because you're probably not old enough. nt  Kahuna   Jan-06-10 03:14 PM   #38 
  - If your reading comprehension were better,  Vattel   Jan-06-10 01:59 PM   #24 
     - Your own words imply that you believe that Dems can win  cliffordu   Jan-06-10 07:21 PM   #40 
  - I'll pass on this plan  comrade snarky   Jan-06-10 01:45 PM   #19 
  - "short term costs"? Sorry, but Bush's fuckups are not short term costs.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jan-06-10 01:47 PM   #20 
  - Ya, I remember 2000. n/t  Cessna Invesco Palin   Jan-06-10 01:48 PM   #21 
  - I don't know many traditional Dems that are really happy with things right now  TornadoTN   Jan-06-10 01:50 PM   #22 
  - It has been oft commented on here that Nixon would be a flaming liberal by today's standards.  LiberalAndProud   Jan-06-10 01:59 PM   #25 
  - I appreciate the worry  Vattel   Jan-06-10 02:05 PM   #27 
  - I understand the strategy.  LiberalAndProud   Jan-06-10 02:14 PM   #30 
     - I guess that argues for changing the strategy  Vattel   Jan-06-10 02:24 PM   #33 
        - The trajectory the left has taken in recent years is the right one.  LiberalAndProud   Jan-06-10 02:38 PM   #35 
           - I think you are probably right.  Vattel   Jan-06-10 02:51 PM   #36 
  - ^Best post on this thread...  Kahuna   Jan-06-10 03:16 PM   #39 
  - Venezuelan right-wingers tried that stunt, and see how much good it did them.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jan-06-10 02:23 PM   #32 
  - Organized boycotts of elections in other countries  Vattel   Jan-06-10 02:28 PM   #34 
  - K&R. Politicians must EARN my vote.  Odin2005   Jan-06-10 03:04 PM   #37 

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