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Wed Jan-06-10 11:31 AM
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| 38. That was before us on the left called this corporatist bill out for what it is. |
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But we should just shut up, because if we say anything we must be republicans.
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| -Obama Caught On Tape Lying 8 Times About Health Care Negotiations |
kpete |
Jan-06-10 10:58 AM |
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We're certainly not getting the transperancy he promised |
liberal_at_heart |
Jan-06-10 11:00 AM |
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There WERE televised negotiations. |
tabatha |
Jan-06-10 11:00 AM |
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"We televised the negotiations before we didn't." |
Romulox |
Jan-06-10 11:02 AM |
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Obama has been far more open than the previous administration. |
tabatha |
Jan-06-10 12:50 PM |
#90 |
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It's true |
HughMoran |
Jan-06-10 01:28 PM |
#105 |
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I just can't believe that people expect Obama |
tabatha |
Jan-06-10 01:34 PM |
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Post the link to the negotiations on the 80 billion dollar deal with PhRma. n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 11:06 AM |
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Post the links to the negotiations where these deals were cut. n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 11:35 AM |
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See #90. |
tabatha |
Jan-06-10 12:50 PM |
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There is no link in that post to the Billy Tauzin - WH deal. n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 01:11 PM |
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Axelrod not as net savy as reported--seemingly doesn't know about video on the web... |
Romulox |
Jan-06-10 11:00 AM |
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That's what happens when you run the Clinton playbook from '94. Triangulation went out with Prodigy |
rudy23 |
Jan-06-10 11:03 AM |
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But he has this *email list* man--you don't even know! |
Romulox |
Jan-06-10 11:08 AM |
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Rovian tactics don't work on Dems, like triangulation doesn't work in 2010 |
rudy23 |
Jan-06-10 11:11 AM |
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For instance, how many Americans have the WH on their "blocked senders" list? n/t |
clear eye |
Jan-06-10 11:41 AM |
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Given that he keeps kicking the ass of people who go against him... |
TheWraith |
Jan-06-10 12:05 PM |
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See #90 |
tabatha |
Jan-06-10 12:51 PM |
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Shit! I must have missed the televised negotiations on C-Span! |
MercutioATC |
Jan-06-10 11:02 AM |
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They all lie. |
golddigger |
Jan-06-10 11:02 AM |
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+1 |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jan-06-10 12:36 PM |
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Nice. |
graywarrior |
Jan-06-10 11:03 AM |
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LOL. Have we committed a thought crime by watching this video? |
Romulox |
Jan-06-10 11:09 AM |
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Now that's transparency. |
guruoo |
Jan-06-10 11:45 AM |
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Let the Sun Shine In: Barack Obama’s Broken Promise on Open Government |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 11:12 AM |
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excellent post, thanks for the link! nt |
inna |
Jan-06-10 11:26 AM |
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you're welcome and ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 11:33 AM |
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My read is that RE lied to the President about how many Senate votes the weak version PO had. |
clear eye |
Jan-06-10 12:07 PM |
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That could well be true, but after saying for months people would... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 01:16 PM |
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See #90 |
tabatha |
Jan-06-10 12:52 PM |
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You need to try again - Tauzin was at the WH at least 11 times... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 01:14 PM |
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You missed the point of what I was saying. |
tabatha |
Jan-06-10 01:24 PM |
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brietbart? |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:13 AM |
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No shit. UNREC. |
meegbear |
Jan-06-10 11:17 AM |
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+1 |
Parker CA |
Jan-06-10 11:22 AM |
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Isn't breitbart.. |
butterfly77 |
Jan-06-10 11:24 AM |
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Yes |
hileeopnyn8d |
Jan-06-10 11:58 AM |
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Disgusting. Unrec. |
OregonBlue |
Jan-06-10 11:24 AM |
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But, but, these are the 'real progressives' n/t |
guruoo |
Jan-06-10 11:52 AM |
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Why? Were they manufactured? Or were they "taken out of context"? |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-06-10 12:57 PM |
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Often The Truth Does Hurt - I Feel For Those That Blindly Placed Faith In This Man |
SunriseStorm |
Jan-06-10 11:17 AM |
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Wasn't anything blind in my supporting Barack Obama. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:21 AM |
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Simple - Because He Has Proven To Be A True DLC Corporatist |
SunriseStorm |
Jan-06-10 11:29 AM |
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Well it's your vote and you can waste it if you want. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:34 AM |
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That's Correct - I Choose To Vote For Democratic And Progressive Principles |
SunriseStorm |
Jan-06-10 11:45 AM |
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Should we support his lies? |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 11:33 AM |
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You can do what you want. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:38 AM |
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Show me the telivised meetings between Obama and Pharma where the "deal" was made. |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 11:42 AM |
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I can't show you what wasn't televised. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:48 AM |
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That is the point. |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 11:53 AM |
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You've lost the argument when you have to rely on junk to post. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 12:01 PM |
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No , you lost it when you made the claim that the American people should not be allowed |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 12:03 PM |
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And I feel for those that have never had faith to begin with. n/t |
Sukie |
Jan-06-10 11:22 AM |
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Eyes Wide Open For This Voter - Hoping He Would Become Progressive |
SunriseStorm |
Jan-06-10 11:27 AM |
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That's like marrying a drunk and hoping he'll quit drinking. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:40 AM |
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Never Said He Was Hard Left - Said I Hoped He Would Become More Progressive |
SunriseStorm |
Jan-06-10 11:47 AM |
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And I Feel For Everyone Else Who Said So And Got Ridiculed |
NashVegas |
Jan-06-10 11:54 AM |
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Faith in what? Someone that I really don't know? Faith IMHO has to be earned. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-06-10 12:12 PM |
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bwahahahahahaaaa |
spanone |
Jan-06-10 11:29 AM |
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Antagonizing DU Members Is Against DU Rules |
SunriseStorm |
Jan-06-10 11:30 AM |
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Breitbart? |
blogslut |
Jan-06-10 11:19 AM |
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Some people can't attack the message, so they attack the messenger |
Zywiec |
Jan-06-10 11:21 AM |
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I got news for you.. I will point out the bomb and the bomb thrower.. laugh that off |
Peacetrain |
Jan-06-10 11:22 AM |
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Some people wonder why a small part of DU is attacking the President. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:23 AM |
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Expecting someone to keep their word is not attack, Obama was the one ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 11:26 AM |
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Asking the president to keep a campaign promise is now attacking? |
Zywiec |
Jan-06-10 11:26 AM |
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There were hours and days and weeks of cspan on health care. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:32 AM |
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Why not going forward?? |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 11:34 AM |
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Do you really think those stinking nopers deserve to see what is going on? |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:45 AM |
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I and the rest of the PEOPLE deserve to know what is going on! |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 11:51 AM |
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LOL so you're pissed off and cussing a blue streak now. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:57 AM |
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You have bought the magic beans. |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 11:59 AM |
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You haven't been shut out, your expectations set you up to fail. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 12:04 PM |
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I havent? where can I watch the negotiations ? |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 12:06 PM |
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LOL |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 12:09 PM |
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Post the link to the negotiations on the 80 billion deal with PhRma ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 11:42 AM |
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So, you're saying that we've suddenly reached the "Transparency Quota", and that further |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-06-10 01:20 PM |
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Playing a tape of Obama's own words is now an "attack"? |
Romulox |
Jan-06-10 11:31 AM |
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Of course it is. |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 11:35 AM |
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According to the spinmeisters, it is. |
Individualist |
Jan-06-10 11:36 AM |
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Facts are only valid when they work in our favor. |
Ignis |
Jan-06-10 11:51 AM |
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And sometimes the messenger is right line of attack. |
Sukie |
Jan-06-10 11:26 AM |
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Are you saying this video of Obama on the campaign trail is a forgery? |
Romulox |
Jan-06-10 11:32 AM |
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When the Message Itself Is a Lie, What Do You Expect? |
NashVegas |
Jan-06-10 11:55 AM |
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This hit 17 recs and suddenly dropped to 10, only the website is... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 11:23 AM |
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I don't watch winger made trash videos. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:26 AM |
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Have thaey changed the videos or did Obama make these promises... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 11:28 AM |
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Are you saying he fabricated those clips? |
katandmoon |
Jan-06-10 11:32 AM |
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I'm saying they're cherry picked. |
jaxx |
Jan-06-10 11:51 AM |
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It reminds me very much of how toddlers are obsessed with the |
Romulox |
Jan-06-10 11:37 AM |
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That was before us on the left called this corporatist bill out for what it is. |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 11:31 AM |
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This bullshit has been debunked MANY times |
berni_mccoy |
Jan-06-10 11:35 AM |
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Please post the link to the deal made with PhRma, thanks n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 11:37 AM |
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That does not "debunk" the mans own words, |
MNDemNY |
Jan-06-10 11:38 AM |
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I need a Mandy Patinkin macro for DU. |
Romulox |
Jan-06-10 11:40 AM |
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He had the White House negotiations televised on C-SPAN. |
Zen Democrat |
Jan-06-10 11:58 AM |
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I've looked for a video of the negotiations with Billy Tauzin and the 80 billion ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 12:14 PM |
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More Obama bashing |
Don Caballero |
Jan-06-10 12:00 PM |
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Every post of yours that I have seen has the same subject line... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 12:18 PM |
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I have a new name for them -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jan-06-10 12:45 PM |
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+1 |
Bluebear |
Jan-06-10 12:52 PM |
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They are becoming as annoying as trolls -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jan-06-10 01:09 PM |
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Great name :) n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-06-10 01:08 PM |
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Rec despite the source. The tapes are REAL, and the promise has been broken. |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 12:13 PM |
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And this is why the republican party, who I regard with |
Sukie |
Jan-06-10 12:31 PM |
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If he would just do what the fuck he said he was going to do there would be no controversy here.. |
Fumesucker |
Jan-06-10 01:38 PM |
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breitbart is a bigot. I don't know why we're allowed to link to that site. |
EFerrari |
Jan-06-10 12:37 PM |
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I've got to hand it to the rightwing noise machine |
WeDidIt |
Jan-06-10 12:54 PM |
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wow...DU takes another plunge to the depths of drudge (FR links next week! Yippeee!) |
AVID |
Jan-06-10 01:22 PM |
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next, they'll be quoting rush... |
dionysus |
Jan-06-10 01:34 PM |
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You watch fucking BREITBART? It's a goddamned bigoted site. |
DevonRex |
Jan-06-10 01:38 PM |
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Locking |
cbayer |
Jan-06-10 01:39 PM |
#110 |
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