dflprincess
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Tue Jan-05-10 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 18. And as health insurance costs continue to rise |
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more and more of us will fall into the "gold plated" category as the bill does not index for insurance inflation.
You'd think the stooges in Congress would have learned after they failed to index the Alternative Minimum Tax.
So much for not raising taxes on the middle class.
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| -AFL-CIO: "Cadillac tax" on health care (which Obama says is a "good idea") will ERODE COVERAGE |
Bluebear |
Jan-05-10 09:21 PM |
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Herbert knows it, I know it, you know it, and Obama knows it |
laughingliberal |
Jan-05-10 09:23 PM |
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Its meant to make health insurance companies cut what is covered |
dkf |
Jan-05-10 09:23 PM |
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What is wrong with being equal? |
yodoobo |
Jan-05-10 09:29 PM |
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It becomes equal by cutting good coverage. |
dkf |
Jan-05-10 09:45 PM |
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The unions have been making wage concessions for years to keep decent health insurance |
dflprincess |
Jan-05-10 09:52 PM |
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when will the Bush tax cuts for wealthy be repealed as promised? |
amborin |
Jan-05-10 10:22 PM |
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its great that unions have had coverage for years |
yodoobo |
Jan-06-10 12:37 AM |
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Union busting is NOT a principle of our party. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-06-10 12:46 AM |
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oh come on. No one is busting unions here |
yodoobo |
Jan-06-10 12:48 AM |
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Fomenting resentment of unions is what I'd call union busting. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-06-10 01:04 AM |
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Everyone is entitled to the same healthcare |
yodoobo |
Jan-06-10 01:42 AM |
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Everyone is NOT getting the same health care under the Senate bill. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-06-10 02:14 AM |
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I don't belong to a union |
dflprincess |
Jan-06-10 12:35 PM |
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"Bigger piece of a smaller pie" theory. And a lot people here support that. |
Egalitariat |
Jan-06-10 08:00 PM |
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The evidence is piling up all around |
rockymountaindem |
Jan-05-10 09:26 PM |
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K & R Exactly right. |
Better Believe It |
Jan-05-10 09:26 PM |
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Obama is right on this |
yodoobo |
Jan-05-10 09:27 PM |
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You didn't read a word, eh? |
Bluebear |
Jan-05-10 09:30 PM |
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Apparently not. The "gold plated" Chevy plan. |
Better Believe It |
Jan-05-10 09:32 PM |
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And farther down accusing union workers of "whining about paying taxes" |
Bluebear |
Jan-05-10 09:50 PM |
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We pay a higher income tax rate than the Wall Street banksters |
Better Believe It |
Jan-05-10 10:21 PM |
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Still, Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy have *not* been repealed. |
Bluebear |
Jan-05-10 10:24 PM |
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Its not directed at anyone in particular |
yodoobo |
Jan-05-10 10:30 PM |
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Fine, you stand with Obama. I am standing with the American worker. |
Bluebear |
Jan-05-10 10:32 PM |
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And Obama stands with the America worker |
yodoobo |
Jan-05-10 10:36 PM |
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bullfuckingshit!..we have been compromised right out of health "CARE" REFORM! |
flyarm |
Jan-05-10 11:16 PM |
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If you don't support the Democratic party |
yodoobo |
Jan-06-10 12:32 AM |
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I support the liberal and progressive arm of the democratic party |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 12:59 AM |
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Uh, I believe that poster |
pecwae |
Jan-06-10 03:22 AM |
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:nodding: |
Bluebear |
Jan-06-10 12:46 PM |
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bullfuckingshit +1 |
Kansas Wyatt |
Jan-06-10 09:14 AM |
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Sure he does |
terrell9584 |
Jan-06-10 10:04 AM |
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And of course, it is also looking out for the Union members |
truedelphi |
Jan-06-10 07:43 PM |
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The problem is, its not "gold plated" health care. It's simply decent in a sea of insufficient care |
Political Heretic |
Jan-05-10 11:28 PM |
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it is over the heads of those sent here to post propaganda..they have no clue what |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 12:01 AM |
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Willful ignorance? |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-05-10 09:33 PM |
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Simple disagreement |
yodoobo |
Jan-05-10 09:39 PM |
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Whining, huh? |
BamaGirl |
Jan-06-10 02:36 AM |
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I read it, but I disagree |
yodoobo |
Jan-05-10 09:36 PM |
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"gold plated plans that are mostly the domain of the wealthy" - not true whatsover. |
Bluebear |
Jan-05-10 09:49 PM |
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Unions will maintain their negotiation power |
yodoobo |
Jan-05-10 10:33 PM |
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bull shit! eom |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 01:06 AM |
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You need to educate yourself about what is happening, dude. |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-06-10 06:38 AM |
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Gold plated plans? |
jmm |
Jan-05-10 09:50 PM |
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And as health insurance costs continue to rise |
dflprincess |
Jan-05-10 09:55 PM |
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AThe House bill which taxes incomes over $500,000 is much more reasonable and "fair" if that is a |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-05-10 09:59 PM |
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this tax on "cadillac" plans will hit less well-paid people each year--"bracket creep" |
amborin |
Jan-05-10 10:28 PM |
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it is obvious that you are too young to understand what people have given up for |
flyarm |
Jan-05-10 10:16 PM |
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SOLIDARITY |
Bluebear |
Jan-05-10 10:19 PM |
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I just want to know where they get these jokers to come here and post this propaganda and bullshit |
flyarm |
Jan-05-10 10:30 PM |
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workers fought hard for these benefits, as you said |
amborin |
Jan-05-10 10:31 PM |
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Solidarity |
Political Heretic |
Jan-05-10 11:29 PM |
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The Democrats' Authoritarian Health "Reform" Bill and the Ascendency of Corporatism in the Democrati |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 12:31 AM |
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Ageism? |
totodeinhere |
Jan-06-10 01:34 AM |
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have you paid health insurance? mortgages ? taxes? have you seen your health insurance go up 500% |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 01:51 AM |
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I know plenty of older right wing nut jobs. |
totodeinhere |
Jan-06-10 02:23 AM |
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I am sorry to tell you this..but ... |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 02:37 AM |
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I can't argue with anything you said there. |
totodeinhere |
Jan-06-10 08:11 AM |
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"domain of the wealthy" = BULLSHIT. They're union. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-06-10 12:36 AM |
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Assuming your premise is true. |
yodoobo |
Jan-06-10 12:45 AM |
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Hellllooooo anybody in there??????? they fucking already kicked in.. by taking less in pay for good |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 01:09 AM |
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Remember back when we were arguing over the AIG bonus tax? |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-06-10 01:24 AM |
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I guess it is all part of that incredible chess game eh????? The one where the big boys always win.. |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 01:35 AM |
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Contracts already entered into won't be affected |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-06-10 09:11 AM |
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How can people be so willing to fuck the middle class |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-06-10 01:14 AM |
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the senate bill will be taxing the middle class worker..they will be taxing those who gave up salary |
flyarm |
Jan-06-10 01:23 AM |
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If the admin wants to give everyone the same health plan, they're welcome to do it via |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-06-10 02:23 AM |
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Amen. nt |
Bluebear |
Jan-06-10 02:35 AM |
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Union shops LOSE work, because their contractor has to pay for health benefits... |
Kansas Wyatt |
Jan-06-10 09:31 AM |
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Speaking of premises |
suffragette |
Jan-06-10 09:45 AM |
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this "reform" is a privatized reform, where the quality of insurance/care varies by income. so don't |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-06-10 02:38 PM |
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Absolutely. |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-05-10 09:31 PM |
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KNR |
amborin |
Jan-05-10 10:21 PM |
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my retired union-member father is certainly not 'wealthy'- but faces a $5,000 tax increase... |
dysfunctional press |
Jan-06-10 03:25 AM |
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Is that for single person insurance, or family insurance? |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-06-10 09:02 AM |
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that's the number he quoted from a letter he recieved from the union... |
dysfunctional press |
Jan-06-10 10:26 AM |
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beautiful, /swish |
Fla_Democrat |
Jan-06-10 08:23 AM |
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Oh those nasty unionses. |
Jakes Progress |
Jan-06-10 09:36 AM |
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K & R. . . . . He just thought he could play chess. |
Faryn Balyncd |
Jan-06-10 10:14 AM |
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This is truly unfair to union workers... |
Imajika |
Jan-06-10 07:57 PM |
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It is, thank you |
Bluebear |
Jan-07-10 04:22 PM |
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