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Wed Jan-06-10 09:53 AM
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| 107. I haven't read the pamphlet but I think there is way more good there than bad. |
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If the pamphlet is done right it could help prevent the spread of AIDs and perhaps provide a helpline for those looking to rid themselves of what we can all agree is a horrible addiction.
This probably something they aren't passing out in high schools and playgrounds. If I'm correct, NYC has a needle exchange program and this is probably something being handed out along with clean needles. If they can help prevent the spread of AIDs and other infectious disease to even a handful of addicts then the program has paid for itself already.
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| -Need advice on injecting heroin? NYC can help! |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 07:32 AM |
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I'm all for harm reduction. n/t |
eShirl |
Jan-05-10 07:37 AM |
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$32,000 sounds like a good investment if it cuts down on ER trips for IV related infection |
Stevenmarc |
Jan-05-10 07:37 AM |
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Educating people is bad now? |
jaxx |
Jan-05-10 08:11 AM |
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Of course education isn't bad... |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 01:26 PM |
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Because heroin addicts really care as to whether or not their city "consents" or not? |
EOTE |
Jan-06-10 12:27 PM |
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Yeah...because people never overcome the habit and go on to worthwhile lives... |
YOY |
Jan-05-10 08:31 AM |
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Yep. None of us ever get better. |
Iggo |
Jan-05-10 09:41 AM |
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You're in excellent company |
YOY |
Jan-05-10 10:19 AM |
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Anthony Bordain |
fascisthunter |
Jan-05-10 06:32 PM |
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Were you forced to use? |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 01:39 PM |
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Jan-05-10 04:39 PM |
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Rules...Read Them. |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 06:17 PM |
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Money well spent |
RedCappedBandit |
Jan-05-10 07:49 PM |
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People don't choose to be addicted |
varelse |
Jan-05-10 08:23 PM |
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LOL! |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 04:26 AM |
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No disease is self inflicted |
varelse |
Jan-06-10 08:04 AM |
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They have chosen the potential of exposure to disease... |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 12:26 PM |
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HIV is a disease that no one chooses to have |
varelse |
Jan-06-10 01:31 PM |
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The behavoir that exposes them to HIV IS a choice. |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 03:02 PM |
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Live well, PA. (n/t) |
Iggo |
Jan-06-10 08:58 AM |
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Addiction takes away choice |
Toots |
Jan-06-10 08:22 AM |
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I hear that's Keith Richards' excuse, too. |
Ignis |
Jan-05-10 01:59 PM |
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Yeah...Lots of people never use. |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 01:38 PM |
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So? I don't want a medal for never using. Do you? |
YOY |
Jan-05-10 02:49 PM |
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Nope... |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 06:24 AM |
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Because it's all about you. The "Fuck you I got mine" thing? |
YOY |
Jan-06-10 07:53 AM |
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Nope...More like the "social responsibility" thing. |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 08:04 AM |
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Bull shit. |
YOY |
Jan-06-10 08:07 AM |
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Do you deny that heroin use is at very least... |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 08:44 AM |
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Do you deny that it is inevitable? |
YOY |
Jan-06-10 09:09 AM |
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Are you a doctor or some kind of moral inquisitor? |
freddie mertz |
Jan-06-10 09:13 AM |
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You're not paying a dime for that program. |
BurtWorm |
Jan-06-10 09:31 AM |
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Reminds me of one of our local Ron Paul types... |
YOY |
Jan-06-10 09:45 AM |
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So what's your opinion on single payer? |
EOTE |
Jan-06-10 12:38 PM |
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Are you suggesting... |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 03:20 PM |
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My question still stands. You haven't addressed it at all. |
EOTE |
Jan-06-10 03:23 PM |
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What does that have to do with harm reduction? |
LeftyMom |
Jan-05-10 05:17 PM |
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I find junkies intolerable |
ninety lives |
Jan-06-10 05:19 AM |
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Non-users are somehow more worthy of help? |
RedCappedBandit |
Jan-05-10 07:50 PM |
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Jan-05-10 08:54 AM |
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Jan-05-10 09:30 AM |
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There were ads in the subway 25 years ago: "Don't Pass the Spike". |
SOS |
Jan-05-10 09:22 AM |
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Sounds like a pretty good investment for $32K, IMO. A lot cheaper than paying for AIDS drugs. |
Brickbat |
Jan-05-10 09:23 AM |
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Good for NYC |
BakedAtAMileHigh |
Jan-05-10 09:24 AM |
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"A health official says the goal is to promote health and save lives." |
pinto |
Jan-05-10 09:25 AM |
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The Title of Your Post Alone is a Damn Good Reason Why.... |
fascisthunter |
Jan-05-10 06:34 PM |
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You think: Now who could possibly attack this practice? |
TexasObserver |
Jan-05-10 08:17 PM |
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This particular example... |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 04:38 AM |
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No, it isn't enabling. You don't even know what the term means. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-06-10 08:10 AM |
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You know what might just work? A war....on drugs! nt |
Romulox |
Jan-05-10 09:25 AM |
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Yeah. It's Worked So Well So Far! |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-05-10 10:23 AM |
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Or perhaps... |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 01:42 PM |
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Such as? Locking up the highest percentage of our population in human history? |
Romulox |
Jan-05-10 02:55 PM |
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What's wrong with 'assistance?' |
BurtWorm |
Jan-06-10 09:33 AM |
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Where Did I Advocate Such A Thing? |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 06:20 AM |
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Infection and disease prevention is money VERY well spent. Good for NYC. nt |
blondeatlast |
Jan-05-10 09:25 AM |
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Long Island has a huge rise in heroin use among young adult. From "good" families. ODing |
KittyWampus |
Jan-05-10 09:26 AM |
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So, We Should Let Them All Die? |
Beetwasher |
Jan-05-10 09:26 AM |
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Here in meth lab country all you have to do is watch the local news |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-05-10 09:27 AM |
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I'm going to run out and use heroin now that it is safe. |
jmm |
Jan-05-10 09:37 AM |
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Jan-05-10 09:58 AM |
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Good on them. |
cliffordu |
Jan-05-10 12:14 PM |
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Sounds like a great "Outrage of the Night" for O'Reilly - maybe you should e-mail him. |
bullwinkle428 |
Jan-05-10 12:57 PM |
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I'm gonna put my bets on the OP getting the info FROM O'reilly |
Clintonista2 |
Jan-05-10 01:45 PM |
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Prove It... |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 06:19 PM |
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Assuming they have a good means to distribute this ... |
surrealAmerican |
Jan-05-10 02:21 PM |
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You should go and read this entire article. |
canetoad |
Jan-05-10 02:45 PM |
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Better Yet, I Read the Pamphlet. |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 06:29 PM |
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I'd rather addicts not injure or kill themselves before they can get the upper hand on addiction. |
eShirl |
Jan-06-10 06:57 AM |
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Watch A&E's "Intervention" on Monday nights at 9:00 pm |
NICO9000 |
Jan-05-10 03:12 PM |
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One of my best childhood/teen aged years friends... |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 04:35 PM |
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I don't think it is approval or consent.. |
sendero |
Jan-05-10 04:41 PM |
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Nor Do I... |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 06:10 PM |
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I hope the reaction from your fellow DUers has been helpful to you, then. |
BurtWorm |
Jan-06-10 09:45 AM |
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kick |
eShirl |
Jan-05-10 04:12 PM |
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Good for NYC for doing this. |
gopwacker_455 |
Jan-05-10 04:20 PM |
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Teach abstinence! Don't give them condoms. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-05-10 04:27 PM |
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I KNOW! Heroin is just as harmless as premarital sex! |
anonymous171 |
Jan-05-10 04:29 PM |
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how about reducing the harm they do to themselves until you can get them to quit? |
eShirl |
Jan-05-10 04:33 PM |
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Druggies won't quit unless they hit rock bottom. |
anonymous171 |
Jan-05-10 04:35 PM |
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It's not about "helping them get their fix, " it's about helping them not injure themselves |
eShirl |
Jan-05-10 04:41 PM |
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Funny, enlightened countries disagree with you. |
Flaneur |
Jan-05-10 05:04 PM |
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If desired, eh?... |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 06:30 AM |
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Sorry, I have no time for authoritarians. |
Flaneur |
Jan-06-10 12:43 PM |
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I have a problem paying taxes for firefighters to come to your house |
PVnRT |
Jan-06-10 12:46 PM |
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Ha! A Ridiculous, Nonsensical Analogy... |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 02:49 PM |
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Complete bullshit. "Rock bottom" is the grave. |
Iggo |
Jan-05-10 05:41 PM |
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If they're not going to quit, why not make sure they're being safe? |
RedCappedBandit |
Jan-05-10 07:44 PM |
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You Do Realize |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 08:02 PM |
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I take the progressive position on this topic. You should try it. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-05-10 07:34 PM |
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You should try to avoid enabling behavior. N/T |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 08:10 PM |
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You're enabling the spread of disease |
RedCappedBandit |
Jan-05-10 08:11 PM |
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You should try adopting progressive ideals. |
TexasObserver |
Jan-05-10 08:12 PM |
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This is good news. |
BurtWorm |
Jan-05-10 05:09 PM |
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You should be |
etherealtruth |
Jan-05-10 06:16 PM |
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People are Judgmental |
fascisthunter |
Jan-05-10 06:37 PM |
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At some point, people must be made to face... |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 08:13 PM |
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and without that more people would die |
fascisthunter |
Jan-05-10 06:40 PM |
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You should get some kind of shortsighted award. Well done. |
EFerrari |
Jan-05-10 06:41 PM |
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Have you read the pamphlet? N/T |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 06:45 PM |
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I sincerely hope you are not an MD |
EFerrari |
Jan-05-10 06:53 PM |
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You didn't answer the question. |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 07:01 PM |
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Jan-05-10 07:31 PM |
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This is not education... |
DrCory |
Jan-05-10 08:08 PM |
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Heroin is going to be injected. |
RedCappedBandit |
Jan-05-10 07:42 PM |
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This handout is actually a good idea. |
backscatter712 |
Jan-05-10 08:20 PM |
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so- is pretending heroin addiction doesn't exist a better solution in your opinion? |
dysfunctional press |
Jan-06-10 05:01 AM |
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as a nurse who has taken care of a lot of IVDU,I think it's great. |
w8liftinglady |
Jan-06-10 07:37 AM |
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Out of curiosity... |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 07:59 AM |
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not in my experience... |
w8liftinglady |
Jan-06-10 08:35 AM |
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Damn, That's Disheartening... |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 08:47 AM |
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a very strong network in junior high would help here |
w8liftinglady |
Jan-06-10 08:51 AM |
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some statistics on the effect on kids |
w8liftinglady |
Jan-06-10 09:00 AM |
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Thanks for the link N/T |
DrCory |
Jan-06-10 09:21 AM |
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Why are you bothered by this? |
asdjrocky |
Jan-06-10 08:13 AM |
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Jan-06-10 08:18 AM |
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I haven't read the pamphlet but I think there is way more good there than bad. |
LynneSin |
Jan-06-10 09:53 AM |
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Locking |
cbayer |
Jan-06-10 04:54 PM |
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