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Tue Jan-05-10 09:14 AM
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| 86. Bill Moyers opinion of the author |
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Praise for Russ Baker:
“In an era dominated by corporate journalism and an ideological right-wing media, Russ Baker’s work stands out for its fierce independence, fact-based reporting, and concern for what matters most to our democracy…A lot of us look to Russ to tell us what we didn’t know.” —Bill Moyers, author and host, Bill Moyers’ Journal (PBS) Bill Moyers says it, I believe it and that's all there is to it.
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| -Family Secrets:All Your Worst Fears About The Bushes Were True |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jan-04-10 12:28 PM |
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K&R |
midnight |
Jan-04-10 12:32 PM |
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As credible as Kitty's book was it? |
stray cat |
Jan-04-10 12:35 PM |
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Why don't you read some of it and get back to us? |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jan-04-10 12:37 PM |
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IN A RELATED STORY... FOX NETWORK NEWS ANNOUNCES NEW PARIS HILTON SHOE FASHION |
happygoluckytoyou |
Jan-05-10 10:45 AM |
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Jan-04-10 12:42 PM |
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Oh sure... |
kenfrequed |
Jan-04-10 02:39 PM |
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What did Kitty Kelley get wrong in your view? |
blm |
Jan-04-10 02:44 PM |
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Look what the dog drug in. So please, point out Kelly's inaccuracies. |
Raster |
Jan-04-10 04:34 PM |
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What's your agenda? I thought I'd just go ahead and ask that right off. |
NoSheep |
Jan-04-10 06:33 PM |
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I've been wondering that for a long time. |
Bluebear |
Jan-04-10 08:47 PM |
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Nice hit and run. Make an inflammatory statement then dont follow it up. |
rd_kent |
Jan-05-10 09:29 AM |
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Thank you for all that you do for US, Ichingcarpenter! |
patrice |
Jan-04-10 12:40 PM |
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Octafish has documented many of the connections in his own research |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jan-04-10 12:49 PM |
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I will be pulling some of that stuff down into my own personal lists. nt |
patrice |
Jan-04-10 12:57 PM |
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Thanks for the heads up |
WeDidIt |
Jan-04-10 12:45 PM |
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ah--easy to confuse tinfoil with real investigative journalism--at least it was 30 years ago |
librechik |
Jan-04-10 12:59 PM |
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Jan-04-10 01:22 PM |
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riiight... |
kenfrequed |
Jan-04-10 02:47 PM |
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Do you realize how amusing that statement is? |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-05-10 02:58 AM |
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Thank you, sabrina 1. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-05-10 06:32 AM |
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I call them "conspiracy smearists." The dungeon is rife with them. |
Raster |
Jan-05-10 07:46 AM |
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A congressman Dick Cheney smeared Sen. Kerry as a 'conspiracy nut' for pursuing IranContra and BCCI |
blm |
Jan-05-10 08:44 AM |
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Yup. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-05-10 09:07 AM |
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I call them Colostomy-baggers, |
Dr.Phool |
Jan-05-10 09:35 AM |
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Good one. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-05-10 05:18 PM |
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Don't forget to mention |
rambler_american |
Jan-05-10 09:25 AM |
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I forgot about that ~ thanks for the reminder. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-05-10 12:11 PM |
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Well there ya go. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-05-10 05:18 PM |
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When the purpose of the book is laid out and clear |
WeDidIt |
Jan-05-10 10:35 AM |
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What is wrong with a book that does research on a family |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-05-10 11:51 AM |
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Can you point to the specific matters that you have ascertained are 'batshit' via your research ? |
blm |
Jan-05-10 12:25 PM |
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What was the name of the scandal with the bush's was it... |
butterfly77 |
Jan-05-10 04:31 PM |
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Yes. Silverado Savings and Loan. |
Raster |
Jan-05-10 05:20 PM |
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S&L racket was discovered during Kerry's investigation into BCCI's criminal operations. |
blm |
Jan-06-10 09:13 AM |
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It was part of the Savings and Loans scandals. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-05-10 05:24 PM |
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Thank you both .. |
butterfly77 |
Jan-05-10 06:20 PM |
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More dirt on Neil... |
Raster |
Jan-06-10 11:37 AM |
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I wondered why she disappeared. I was surprised to see |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-06-10 05:58 PM |
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Well, this confirms it... |
bear425 |
Jan-05-10 09:05 AM |
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Bill Moyers opinion of the author |
rambler_american |
Jan-05-10 09:14 AM |
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Oops! Meant to include the url for that quote |
rambler_american |
Jan-05-10 09:15 AM |
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If Bill Moyers trusts this author |
JitterbugPerfume |
Jan-05-10 12:35 PM |
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Ah, so you are touchy about criticism of Bush on a Democratic web site, eh? |
Jamastiene |
Jan-05-10 10:01 AM |
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What speaks volumes |
WeDidIt |
Jan-05-10 10:34 AM |
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name the issues you have determined to be 'batshit' and the ones deemed proven by historic evidence. |
blm |
Jan-06-10 12:55 PM |
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Jan-05-10 10:33 AM |
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Thanks for the information, just ordered the book! n/t |
LakeSamish706 |
Jan-04-10 01:03 PM |
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Most of this info is out there already. Try some of these buzzwords to fill in the gaps... |
Last Stand |
Jan-05-10 12:55 PM |
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20 years ago, anyone who mentioned Trilateral Commission, or |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jan-05-10 04:00 PM |
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K&R! n/t |
juno jones |
Jan-04-10 01:06 PM |
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That we are being ruled by a shadow government has been |
Cleita |
Jan-04-10 01:07 PM |
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FDR confirmed it -- Woodrow Wilson . . . they all have ... and |
defendandprotect |
Jan-04-10 06:12 PM |
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The Planned Collapse of America |
Selena Harris |
Jan-05-10 09:13 AM |
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Changing Images of Man |
Selena Harris |
Jan-05-10 09:14 AM |
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Scanned it quickly . . . sadly interesting . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-10 10:18 PM |
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Yes . . . "secret cabal" . . . !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-10 10:13 PM |
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Kicking thread for so many reasons, but this reply tops the list |
havocmom |
Jan-06-10 09:45 AM |
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Here's the most important part of your statement, Cleita: |
FredStembottom |
Jan-05-10 12:28 PM |
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K&R |
pleah |
Jan-04-10 01:12 PM |
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"Occultism is our main republicon strategery. Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R) |
SpiralHawk |
Jan-04-10 01:14 PM |
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K & R |
AzDar |
Jan-04-10 01:17 PM |
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Excellent book. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jan-04-10 01:19 PM |
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Love this comment from the linked reviews @ Amazon: |
mod mom |
Jan-04-10 01:26 PM |
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K&R "The Bushes have been portrayed as everything from incompetents to ideologues" |
Echo In Light |
Jan-04-10 01:33 PM |
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Oh you just nailed it. My amazement at the stupidity FINALLY cleared up and I |
NoSheep |
Jan-04-10 06:31 PM |
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There are those who beleive to never assume malice when stupidity will suffice...but there |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-04-10 08:43 PM |
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This was the built-in alibi for eight years of cheney*/bush*. |
Raster |
Jan-05-10 07:48 AM |
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My worst fears about the Bush family is that they are still breeding |
LynneSin |
Jan-04-10 01:35 PM |
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You'll eat those words once President Jenna takes office! |
MetaTrope |
Jan-04-10 07:10 PM |
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Compared to the last Bush in that position, |
Jackpine Radical |
Jan-04-10 08:46 PM |
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Oh, so what's the big deal? |
howmad1 |
Jan-04-10 07:31 PM |
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Obama & Holder endorse the ancient proverb: Never look back. |
Jackpine Radical |
Jan-04-10 08:48 PM |
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Yogi Berra was...ancient? |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jan-05-10 04:21 PM |
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Ahem...*polite cough*... Satchel Paige. |
Ikonoklast |
Jan-05-10 07:32 PM |
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ummmm....( blush blush) you are so correct. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jan-05-10 10:01 PM |
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Or given the details of this book maybe President Obama is just |
jwirr |
Jan-04-10 10:49 PM |
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You're not the only one |
Enthusiast |
Jan-05-10 06:46 AM |
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Are you a prosecutor? |
suzie |
Jan-04-10 10:52 PM |
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And then we'll know we knew it all along. |
puebloknot |
Jan-04-10 01:52 PM |
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Not a decent human being among that family. |
Initech |
Jan-04-10 01:55 PM |
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are you sure they're human? |
Extend a Hand |
Jan-05-10 12:03 AM |
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They're lizard people. Read David Ickes. |
Solomon |
Jan-05-10 11:42 AM |
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True, that would require them to be human to begin with. |
Initech |
Jan-05-10 12:42 PM |
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Russ Baker's web site to promote investigative journalism |
JohnyCanuck |
Jan-04-10 02:16 PM |
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Another fantastic source going back thru the decades is . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jan-04-10 06:14 PM |
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k&r eom |
ellenfl |
Jan-04-10 02:58 PM |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Jan-04-10 03:16 PM |
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k/r |
snake in the grass |
Jan-04-10 03:44 PM |
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K&R |
rtassi |
Jan-04-10 03:52 PM |
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Any sources for information about the BFEE and the coup on America by CIA/corporates . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jan-04-10 06:05 PM |
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KNR |
leveymg |
Jan-04-10 06:15 PM |
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DU's Octafish got me to read Baker's book on the Bush family. He's got it down. |
David Zephyr |
Jan-04-10 06:35 PM |
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K&R |
liberal N proud |
Jan-04-10 07:07 PM |
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K&R. When I read about the Bush progeny seeping |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Jan-04-10 07:10 PM |
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When do you guy's think George Sr. will pass away? |
pjt7 |
Jan-04-10 08:12 PM |
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+1000!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-04-10 08:44 PM |
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The Romanov solution |
The Wizard |
Jan-05-10 07:23 AM |
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bookmarked for later. |
Soylent Brice |
Jan-04-10 08:12 PM |
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There are no evil deeds, cruel actions or greedy plans that would shock me if they |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-04-10 08:38 PM |
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I think the problem |
Enthusiast |
Jan-05-10 06:52 AM |
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I think you have hit the nail right on the head!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-05-10 11:15 AM |
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Thanks For Posting This. K & R (nt) |
Dinger |
Jan-04-10 09:17 PM |
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Worst fear is if Bush daddy in on JFK murder |
RedCloud |
Jan-04-10 09:21 PM |
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Whats the name of the book? |
gopiscrap |
Jan-04-10 09:29 PM |
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Family of Secrets - Jeez! Did you not read any of this thread, including the OP? n/t |
Subdivisions |
Jan-04-10 10:12 PM |
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KnRnB. Now if some Hollywood producer would just turn this into a fictionalized thriller... |
Hekate |
Jan-04-10 09:40 PM |
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Thanks for the heads up on this book and the whowhatwhy web site. I've never |
peacetalksforall |
Jan-04-10 10:24 PM |
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Catch this before it is gone as well - |
dialectical |
Jan-04-10 10:36 PM |
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One correction: The eugenics movement was in the USA way before |
jwirr |
Jan-04-10 11:12 PM |
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It's my opinion |
dialectical |
Jan-04-10 11:22 PM |
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How old is Pat Buchanan? |
Zen Democrat |
Jan-05-10 12:50 AM |
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He just turned 71 in Nov, born in 1938.. |
Ghost in the Machine |
Jan-05-10 05:42 AM |
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Looks like a well researched book. Thank your for posting |
Alameda |
Jan-04-10 11:34 PM |
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Just checked - |
Delphinus |
Jan-05-10 05:33 AM |
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This will be dismissed by some as "conspiracy theory" |
Doctor_J |
Jan-05-10 06:17 AM |
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A shadow government |
Joanne98 |
Jan-05-10 06:55 AM |
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You do realize that both sides can play at |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-05-10 07:44 AM |
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Please find me a 600-page footnoted book |
Doctor_J |
Jan-05-10 08:37 AM |
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70 years, maybe not… |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-05-10 09:03 AM |
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So you think Bill Moyers is wrong about this journalist? |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jan-05-10 09:24 AM |
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No games. |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-05-10 10:30 AM |
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hahah...Bush Sr used Clinton to deepsix the BCCI report he was handed when he took office |
blm |
Jan-05-10 08:51 AM |
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Jackson Stephens and Delta Pine and Land |
Selena Harris |
Jan-05-10 09:36 AM |
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Jan-05-10 09:43 AM |
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Jackson Stephens just 'happened' to have set up WalMart's China deal. A frontline global fascist |
blm |
Jan-05-10 09:51 AM |
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Mena, Arkansas |
Selena Harris |
Jan-05-10 10:34 AM |
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Mena was Poppy Bush's hub for CIA drugrunning. He wouldn't have given a Gov Clinton any choice BUT |
blm |
Jan-05-10 04:05 PM |
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Chinese junk |
Selena Harris |
Jan-05-10 05:44 PM |
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It was the airport of choice. |
David Zephyr |
Jan-05-10 08:03 PM |
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Please don't embarrass yourself by bringing Jerry Falwell's |
bullwinkle428 |
Jan-05-10 12:45 PM |
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I didn't. |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-06-10 07:51 PM |
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What conspiracy... |
butterfly77 |
Jan-05-10 06:24 PM |
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That's precisely |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-06-10 07:56 PM |
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kick |
defendandprotect |
Jan-05-10 08:11 AM |
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KICK & REC |
orbitalman |
Jan-05-10 08:56 AM |
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Read this book as well as |
PRETZEL |
Jan-05-10 09:33 AM |
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The BFEE has been sucking this country dry and |
Jamastiene |
Jan-05-10 09:55 AM |
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Kicking this up in hopes that all DU'er will read Russ Baker's milestone book. |
David Zephyr |
Jan-05-10 01:08 PM |
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. |
havocmom |
Jan-05-10 01:12 PM |
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This book is, IMO, almost right on about Kennedy |
That Is Quite Enough |
Jan-05-10 05:31 PM |
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