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Sun Jan-03-10 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #65 |
| 66. Sorry, but that's a bogus argument |
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Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 11:54 PM by rollingrock
1. if they grant a special exception for the US, then they would have to grant an exception for EVERY country in the treaty. which would render the treaty completely meaningless.
2. S. Korea is not a signatory to the ottawa Treaty, so they can continue producing landmines and can keep mining the DMZ all they want, even after and if the US signs the landmine ban treaty.
...btw, we're not South Korea's nursemaids or babysitters. Let them be responsible for their own fucking defense for once. the South Koreans aren't a bunch of defenseless, helpless little children that we need to coddle ok? we have more than enough of our own problems to worry about here at home.
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| -'I thought Obama would reverse the policies of the Bush administration' -Sen. Patrick Leahy |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 06:28 PM |
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What did Bill Clinton do on landmines? Perhaps Obama is following the same policy as Bill, not |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-03-10 06:34 PM |
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How does that make the decision right? |
timeforpeace |
Jan-03-10 06:36 PM |
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Seeing it as similar to Clinton instead of Bush certainly gives it a different tinge, don't you |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-03-10 06:38 PM |
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Second verse, same as the first |
donheld |
Jan-03-10 09:23 PM |
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Yes and you choose to follow the military decision? nt |
rhett o rick |
Jan-03-10 10:28 PM |
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Disappointment with Obama's position on Landmines |
youngharry |
Jan-04-10 12:45 AM |
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I don't see it that way. Anyone responsible for something as evil |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-04-10 01:32 AM |
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What's your point? |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 06:38 PM |
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I think people get a different impression from Obama = Clinton then they do from Obama = Bush. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-03-10 06:40 PM |
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who wants another Clinton administration? I supported him in the primaries because I didn't. |
FLAprogressive |
Jan-03-10 07:05 PM |
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One vote that might have encouraged Leahy that Obama would do differently |
karynnj |
Jan-03-10 07:32 PM |
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WIN for impressive recall of senators' records. |
burning rain |
Jan-03-10 11:20 PM |
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That's a good article. |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-03-10 07:40 PM |
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The Obama administration is reviewing the policy and has not decided to continue Bush/Clinton |
grantcart |
Jan-03-10 09:07 PM |
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yes a full review. give me a break. That means nothing. nt |
rhett o rick |
Jan-03-10 10:29 PM |
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Using Korea as an example is similar to us using them between Canada and Mexican borders. |
glowing |
Jan-03-10 11:54 PM |
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valid point. thank you.....n/t |
veganlush |
Jan-03-10 10:01 PM |
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{{{{Spin}}}} n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-03-10 10:29 PM |
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Barack is President... not Bill and not Hillary. Nice try though. I thought Barack was "change". |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Jan-03-10 10:41 PM |
#64 |
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Two wrongs - |
cartach |
Jan-03-10 11:26 PM |
#69 |
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Following a bad policy is still following a bad policy. |
asdjrocky |
Jan-03-10 11:46 PM |
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Yes, Leahy is disappointed in some of what Obama's doing |
cali |
Jan-03-10 06:36 PM |
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You're right |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 06:41 PM |
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so what, to you as well. you are disappointed in some things obama is doing, aren't you?? nt |
boston bean |
Jan-03-10 06:41 PM |
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yes I am but the OP is trying to use Leahy in a way that I know |
cali |
Jan-03-10 06:45 PM |
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The article seems to contradict that. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-03-10 07:29 PM |
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Leahy is disappointed with Obama on this specific issue |
cali |
Jan-03-10 07:39 PM |
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Silly Sen. Patrick Leahy |
L0oniX |
Jan-03-10 06:41 PM |
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The dread hands of the unreccers aren't happy, of course -- but Senator, a lot of us did. |
villager |
Jan-03-10 06:42 PM |
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Hey unrecommenders... |
Tesha |
Jan-03-10 06:42 PM |
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I'll tell you why I did ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-03-10 07:17 PM |
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The repeated fabrications makes one wonder who's really behind all this "dissent" |
guruoo |
Jan-03-10 10:37 PM |
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Ditto |
Cetacea |
Jan-03-10 11:17 PM |
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Bingo on every point. TY, RoyGBiv. nt |
Hekate |
Jan-03-10 11:48 PM |
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Didn't we all? |
RubyDuby in GA |
Jan-03-10 06:46 PM |
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How many threads will be locked |
sandnsea |
Jan-03-10 06:47 PM |
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You're comparing this thread to obvious racial flamebait? |
jgraz |
Jan-03-10 09:01 PM |
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Same poster, Same purpose |
sandnsea |
Jan-03-10 09:25 PM |
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That's because I'm able to employ tactics other than ad hominem attacks |
jgraz |
Jan-03-10 09:32 PM |
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K&R. |
timeforpeace |
Jan-03-10 07:04 PM |
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Another teaching moment that Obama fucked up on. |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-03-10 07:22 PM |
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HE is a senator so he should get off his butt and start convincing his colleagues in the senate |
stray cat |
Jan-03-10 07:26 PM |
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At the very least we expected Obama to uphold the US Constitution. nt |
glitch |
Jan-03-10 07:26 PM |
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Geez, what a Leftbagger. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-03-10 07:27 PM |
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Senator Leahy's Actual Comments |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-03-10 07:28 PM |
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Amazing what a difference the ACTUAL words of Senator Leahy make when you read them. |
Hekate |
Jan-03-10 11:53 PM |
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One thing I thought very important ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-04-10 12:17 AM |
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Leahy on health care reform |
ProSense |
Jan-03-10 07:52 PM |
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So Leahy is happy with a healthcare bill |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 08:03 PM |
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You're the one misquoting Leahy to satisfy your agenda. n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-03-10 08:06 PM |
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Where did I misquote him? |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 08:11 PM |
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You don't get it both ways ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-03-10 08:09 PM |
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I'm quoting from two credible sources |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 08:16 PM |
#31 |
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The statement in your subject is not a quote ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-03-10 08:19 PM |
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What do you think this means? |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 08:22 PM |
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As noted ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-03-10 08:28 PM |
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You are not misquoting him you are changing the context. |
grantcart |
Jan-03-10 08:20 PM |
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The keyword here is 'policies' |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 08:24 PM |
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Actually, he is misquoting him ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-03-10 08:32 PM |
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You assume that the news source |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 08:44 PM |
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No ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-03-10 08:47 PM |
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The news source got it right |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 09:01 PM |
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Just so we're clear ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-03-10 09:25 PM |
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If you disagree or don't believe the source is telling the truth |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 09:42 PM |
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Not crying ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-03-10 11:27 PM |
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Don't presume that your opinion is the only one that counts |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 11:52 PM |
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Look ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jan-04-10 12:09 AM |
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You are correct |
CLANG |
Jan-03-10 10:11 PM |
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ICBL very pleased that Obama administration is committed to "review of policy" |
grantcart |
Jan-03-10 08:35 PM |
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Isn't that amazing. First someone posts what Leahy actually said, then you post what ICBL actually |
Hekate |
Jan-03-10 11:56 PM |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Jan-03-10 08:44 PM |
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Jan-03-10 08:48 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Jan-03-10 09:35 PM |
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KNR |
amborin |
Jan-03-10 09:05 PM |
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K&R.... |
unkachuck |
Jan-03-10 09:45 PM |
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why oh why? |
spanone |
Jan-03-10 09:48 PM |
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YAwn. The landmine bullshit in this post is already |
cliffordu |
Jan-03-10 10:03 PM |
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There is a little problem called Korea |
tritsofme |
Jan-03-10 10:09 PM |
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What for? |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 10:19 PM |
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The Ottawa Treaty would require the US to remove mines near the Korea DMZ |
tritsofme |
Jan-03-10 10:49 PM |
#65 |
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Sorry, but that's a bogus argument |
rollingrock |
Jan-03-10 11:15 PM |
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I doubt North Korea would be so foolish enough to do that without permission from Beijing. |
Selatius |
Jan-03-10 11:52 PM |
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North Korea is entirely dependent on China aid |
rollingrock |
Jan-04-10 12:09 AM |
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There is a bigger problem... |
Andronex |
Jan-04-10 01:21 AM |
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"Committed to a review" is now an accomplishment. So, I welcome this |
change_notfinetuning |
Jan-03-10 11:30 PM |
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We could just bitch or we could bitch AND do something about it |
jbnow |
Jan-03-10 11:42 PM |
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When Obama says he's undertaking a "comprehensive policy review" it usually means good things ... |
Hekate |
Jan-03-10 11:43 PM |
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Hekate.... |
democrank |
Jan-04-10 04:11 AM |
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K & R |
democracy1st |
Jan-04-10 12:20 AM |
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Who does the Pentagon buy these landmines from? |
zoff |
Jan-04-10 03:14 AM |
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*****ANOTHER ANTI OBAMA POST******: Landmine issue comprehensive policy review |
uponit7771 |
Jan-04-10 04:22 AM |
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locking |
maddezmom |
Jan-04-10 05:43 AM |
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