| 111. Good questions, and a substantive topic, |
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even if you seem determined to object to my engaging in it.
Honestly? I hate the idea of authoritarian legislative control over reproduction. I don't, though, trust my species to be responsible just because it's the right thing to do. If we could, there wouldn't be an issue. I don't think we should do nothing while the population doubles in increasingly shorter spans of time.
To start at home in the U.S.:
Turn tax deductions upside down. A generous deduction for those with no biological children, a smaller deduction for those with one biological child, no deduction and no tax for 2 children, and a carbon tax on every child past 2.
Education: A massive effort to educate the populace of the world about the need for responsible reproductive choices.
Also, a cultural shift away from children as the means to self-completion.
Free birth control, sterilization, and abortion on demand across the globe.
What else? Something more aggressive? I'm not on board with it, but my mother has, for decades, suggested:
Automatic sterilization of males upon puberty, to be reversed when they are educated, self-supporting, and able to support a child.
When I pointed out the gender inequality in this idea, she replied that vasectomies were safer and less intrusive than tubal ligation, and that if a way could be found to do the same reversible process for girls, she'd be all for that.
I don't think I'd support something like this unless better, and more reliably reversible methods were available for both genders, and unless the less restrictive solutions were not working.
Still, we require a license for pet owners. Why not for parents?
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MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 01:36 PM |
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Educate girls |
LiberalEsto |
Jan-03-10 01:51 PM |
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Really. Girls? Not boys? |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 01:54 PM |
#5 |
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Boys usually get what is available in education before the girls do in those |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 02:00 PM |
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There were studies in the 1980s and 90s showing that when girls are taught |
clear eye |
Jan-03-10 04:49 PM |
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Not only that give them access to women's health clinics that enable |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 01:56 PM |
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There's a great idea. Perhaps we could also work to decrease |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:00 PM |
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Catholics |
BeFree |
Jan-03-10 03:03 PM |
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China is the single place where there is reproductive control |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 03:12 PM |
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Japan is over populated |
BeFree |
Jan-03-10 03:23 PM |
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japan is losing population. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 03:27 PM |
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Yup. Their birth rate is very low, which is causing some |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 03:29 PM |
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Why? |
BeFree |
Jan-03-10 03:43 PM |
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Because housing and living expenses are at a premium |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 04:12 PM |
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So |
BeFree |
Jan-03-10 04:18 PM |
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us population would be declining too, if not for immigration. Birthrates |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 04:29 PM |
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Incorrect; US births are still considerably more than deaths |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-04-10 08:09 AM |
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Kind of, in part. The USA has a culture of arrogance while |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 04:31 PM |
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Japan's birthrate has more to do with economics than "culture of arrogance/responsibility". |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 06:21 PM |
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Sorry but the Catholic religion does have an impact on the availability of birth control |
clear eye |
Jan-03-10 04:44 PM |
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See the exploding population rates among Catholics in Italy and Spain |
AngryAmish |
Jan-03-10 04:58 PM |
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catholic countries have some of the lowest fertility rates in the world. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 06:26 PM |
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Only in highly educated, more prosperous European countries |
clear eye |
Jan-03-10 08:01 PM |
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yes, "highly educated, more prosperous european countries" like poland, brazil, mexico |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 10:51 PM |
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Poland not relevant. |
clear eye |
Jan-04-10 09:07 AM |
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Hell, in parts of Mexico, tampons are sinful... |
a la izquierda |
Jan-04-10 07:25 AM |
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Catholicism has absolutely nothing to do with Japan. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 06:53 PM |
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"crowded conditions" & "economic difficulties" have little to do with it either. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 11:20 PM |
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There was a single child per couple quota under Mao. |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 04:15 PM |
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"rather late" - no. transition occurred just slightly later than us/europe. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 04:31 PM |
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catholic countries have some of the lowest birthrates in the world. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 06:40 PM |
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Jan-03-10 11:24 PM |
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Yes, and then get them into the labor force |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-03-10 02:41 PM |
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rather the decreased utility & increased cost of child-rearing in modernizing urbanizing |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-04-10 06:59 AM |
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Bingo. n/t |
Greyhound |
Jan-03-10 09:01 PM |
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+1000 |
amborin |
Jan-03-10 09:07 PM |
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+1,000; the education of/status of/rights of women is what makes the difference. |
LeftinOH |
Jan-05-10 10:03 AM |
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For years I was a proponent of population control. |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 01:52 PM |
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I've contributed to it by one. A Dugger, I'm not. |
notadmblnd |
Jan-03-10 01:56 PM |
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Well, you've done your part, I think, as long as that continues. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 01:58 PM |
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I'm post menopausal, so my part and my hubby's is permanent. nt |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 04:19 PM |
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Controlling reproduction is impossible. The thing about this is, |
Subdivisions |
Jan-03-10 01:53 PM |
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Yeah? How has that worked out so far, then? |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 01:57 PM |
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Hi MM. Easter Island isn't a theory. They used up all their resources and |
Subdivisions |
Jan-03-10 02:12 PM |
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I disagree. I believe that education and assistance with |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:17 PM |
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The trouble is that the failure to limit reproduction tramples on my civil rights |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 04:24 PM |
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A lot of truth, that. My favorite new line for the RW's who deride us for trying to 'save the earth' |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 02:17 PM |
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That is a very good point. Truer words never spoken. |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 04:42 PM |
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We need to reexamine what we call our "rights"... |
Orsino |
Jan-05-10 11:08 AM |
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impossible. that's why world fertility rate = 2.65 births/woman, expected to decline to 2.55 |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 04:25 PM |
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Interesting website, Hannah. Tell me, is that expected reduction in the fertility |
Subdivisions |
Jan-03-10 04:48 PM |
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The result of the same social & economic changes that have produced |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 06:18 PM |
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did you watch Jessie Ventura's Conspiracy Theory last week? |
notadmblnd |
Jan-03-10 01:54 PM |
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I have far, far better things to do with my time than |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 01:56 PM |
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There was no need for your condesending remark |
notadmblnd |
Jan-03-10 02:00 PM |
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Jesse on TruTv |
90-percent |
Jan-03-10 02:09 PM |
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did you me to ask me this? |
notadmblnd |
Jan-03-10 02:14 PM |
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didn't mean to ask you specifically |
90-percent |
Jan-03-10 02:39 PM |
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You suggested that I watch a television show about a |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:13 PM |
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I didn't endorse it either way. I told you what it was about and said to take a look if you liked |
notadmblnd |
Jan-03-10 02:16 PM |
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The premise in what you said the show discussed |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:32 PM |
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go to- nevermind. |
notadmblnd |
Jan-03-10 04:11 PM |
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There would be plenty of deaths w/o those vaccines |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 04:47 PM |
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Yeah |
BeFree |
Jan-03-10 03:07 PM |
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You consider a show on conspiracies an educational source? |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 03:13 PM |
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apparently he's the authority |
notadmblnd |
Jan-03-10 04:13 PM |
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Jesse Ventura is an authority on nothing. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 06:57 PM |
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I was talking about you |
notadmblnd |
Jan-03-10 08:44 PM |
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Look, the only reason to watch a Ventura show on "vaccinations are killing us" is to laugh at it |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-04-10 08:22 AM |
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if your critical reading skills were a little more honed, |
notadmblnd |
Jan-04-10 05:17 PM |
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In #15, you described his program as a source of information |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-05-10 02:26 AM |
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I did not. I said "if you believe him" in #15 |
notadmblnd |
Jan-05-10 02:17 PM |
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Forcible sterilization of 1st worlders. Population crisis solved. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jan-03-10 01:57 PM |
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With an attitude like that, you might as well be a fascist. |
StarfarerBill |
Jan-03-10 02:35 PM |
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I have an idea, let's castrate all males except the ones we deem acceptable |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 03:14 PM |
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Ouch. Would we males who choose not to reproduce be considered acceptable? |
StarfarerBill |
Jan-03-10 04:07 PM |
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Maybe we could give you a choice then between an irreversible vasectomy |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 04:09 PM |
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lol. I know, but if the government wants to give me a free, professional vasectomy, |
StarfarerBill |
Jan-03-10 04:18 PM |
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Jan-03-10 11:03 PM |
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+1. or just the US, since they use about 20% of world resources. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 06:28 PM |
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Yep, the 1st worlders are the ones with the huge carbon footprint. |
raccoon |
Jan-04-10 08:38 AM |
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How about reducing resource consumption first |
leftstreet |
Jan-03-10 01:58 PM |
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Do it in a way that allows choice. |
noamnety |
Jan-03-10 02:04 PM |
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I agree. I also think the best sex education is math. |
Gregorian |
Jan-03-10 03:01 PM |
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Mother Nature does a good job of it herself |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 02:07 PM |
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And yet, population continues to grow, and has done for a long, long |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:21 PM |
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I think your chart is a big disingenuous. |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 02:33 PM |
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And yet, the world population continues, and continued, to grow |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:39 PM |
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If it were plotted from the dawn of humanity a few million years ago, |
greyl |
Jan-03-10 02:50 PM |
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There was a period at the dawn of mankind when our species was almost |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 02:54 PM |
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I think you might have missed my point. nt |
greyl |
Jan-03-10 03:16 PM |
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Not really. n/t |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 03:18 PM |
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no, in fact, the curve doesn't continue to steepen. global birth rate |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 06:32 PM |
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The total population curve continues to steepen. Sorry, but that's |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 06:59 PM |
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steeper curve = faster & faster rate of doubling. we've already passed the peak of the curve. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 09:35 PM |
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No, it started to flatten after 1989, even in the absolute population change |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jan-04-10 08:41 AM |
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And here is another chart, which shows population growth |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:24 PM |
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Here's an article with a more comprehensive chart than yours: |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 02:52 PM |
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I commend you on you commitment to the cause... |
Walk away |
Jan-03-10 02:07 PM |
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Yes, I agree. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:10 PM |
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Place one child limits at once |
Don Caballero |
Jan-03-10 02:19 PM |
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How about a reverse deduction on income taxes, instead of a |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:27 PM |
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The education limits would be unconstitutional. |
tinrobot |
Jan-03-10 02:49 PM |
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This would be a good start. nt |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 04:51 PM |
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Oh brother, we get more and more like China every day. n/t |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 02:28 PM |
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As much as China is criticized |
Don Caballero |
Jan-03-10 02:36 PM |
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Actually, if they had given women equal rights and access to |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 03:00 PM |
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The reason for this thread is to get suggestions, not defeatism. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:43 PM |
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Anything that suggests that treating women like they do in China to |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 02:58 PM |
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Patriarchal. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 03:11 PM |
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This is why women need equality under the law and the ability to tell |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 03:18 PM |
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Well, I agree with that 100%. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 03:28 PM |
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oh, i see your misunderstanding re: who shld get eduacted, stats show the more education girls get |
bettyellen |
Jan-03-10 04:20 PM |
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They treat men and animals just as badly as women in China. |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 04:28 PM |
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Jan-03-10 11:05 PM |
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getting medical care and birth control to impoverished nations |
liberal_at_heart |
Jan-03-10 02:29 PM |
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What about the population of the affluent nations? |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:33 PM |
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If you look at historical data you find that the birth rate of affluent nations has hit a plateau |
liberal_at_heart |
Jan-03-10 02:42 PM |
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Not so. Here's a chart showing US population over time. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:46 PM |
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Your chart doesn't have a legend and you don't say where you get it from |
liberal_at_heart |
Jan-03-10 02:48 PM |
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By all means. Go find a population growth chart for the US and |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:52 PM |
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I'm not the best at searching on the internet but here are a couple of interesting links I found |
liberal_at_heart |
Jan-03-10 03:41 PM |
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That's a POPULATION chart, not a birthrate chart. If not for immigration |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 06:36 PM |
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I am less concerned with birthrate than I am with population. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 07:02 PM |
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in fact, it's basically near or at replacement on every continent but africa. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 09:23 PM |
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Not true if you take births only into account. Births+immigration |
kelly1mm |
Jan-03-10 02:51 PM |
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If we really want to reverse the damages done by overpopulation, it must be a worldwide effort |
Don Caballero |
Jan-03-10 02:33 PM |
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You do realize how unconstitutional that would be don't you? nt |
anonymous171 |
Jan-03-10 02:49 PM |
#46 |
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When it comes to saving mankind |
Don Caballero |
Jan-03-10 02:51 PM |
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So we have to destroy the Constitution to save it. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jan-03-10 02:53 PM |
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First of all I do not see anything I advocated as unconstitutional |
Don Caballero |
Jan-03-10 02:56 PM |
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Population controls would violate the right to privacy, |
anonymous171 |
Jan-03-10 03:05 PM |
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I am very much in favor of abortion |
Don Caballero |
Jan-03-10 03:14 PM |
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The stress on the planet is a combination of population and use of resources.. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jan-03-10 05:22 PM |
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I totally agree |
Don Caballero |
Jan-03-10 05:42 PM |
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Hey, George |
spoony |
Jan-04-10 08:44 AM |
#207 |
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but if it's for the good of the nation or the good of the world then we don't need the constitution |
liberal_at_heart |
Jan-03-10 02:54 PM |
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we don't need a one child policy. we're already at replacement rate. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 06:38 PM |
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Over 50 posts and not one mention of "religion" |
KansDem |
Jan-03-10 02:53 PM |
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Not true, #18 mentions it. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jan-03-10 02:55 PM |
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Sorry...thanks for the correction... |
KansDem |
Jan-03-10 03:00 PM |
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See #14 and the post it replies to. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 02:56 PM |
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See no. 67 |
KansDem |
Jan-03-10 03:02 PM |
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See #57 |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 07:12 PM |
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Staying within Constitutional guidelines... |
dems_rightnow |
Jan-03-10 02:58 PM |
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Make religion a non-issue for people who don't follow |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 03:22 PM |
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The first few posts including the OP mentions it. n/t |
Cleita |
Jan-03-10 03:01 PM |
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It is interesting. Of my own and my husband's immediate families |
SPedigrees |
Jan-03-10 05:00 PM |
#123 |
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religion has very little to do with birthrates. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 11:25 PM |
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It needs to become socially acceptable not to procreate |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-03-10 02:55 PM |
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That's a good point. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 03:06 PM |
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Exactly. It's an incredibly loaded and powerful term. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-03-10 04:42 PM |
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Screw 'em, then. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 07:04 PM |
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Back when an older friend of mine was a child in a French Catholic community in Maine, |
clear eye |
Jan-03-10 05:22 PM |
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More souls to save for Jebus. Feh! |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 07:04 PM |
#151 |
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you've got a thing about catholics, i see. but it's bullshit. there's no correlation between |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 11:26 PM |
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I am critical of certain tenets of Catholicism, not "Catholics" |
clear eye |
Jan-04-10 09:46 AM |
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Children's Education & Welfare Fund Tax |
Meldread |
Jan-03-10 02:59 PM |
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Skinner, please let us have a population forum. |
Gregorian |
Jan-03-10 03:00 PM |
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Yes |
BeFree |
Jan-03-10 03:20 PM |
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Just an example for your previous post |
Gregorian |
Jan-03-10 05:29 PM |
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We need to stop the race between food production and population. |
greyl |
Jan-03-10 03:00 PM |
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Jan-03-10 11:17 PM |
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No! Cap it and improve distribution. nt |
greyl |
Jan-04-10 12:57 AM |
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Jan-04-10 05:26 PM |
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Hell no! Jebus, try applying your imagination to the interest of good, why don't ya. nt |
greyl |
Jan-04-10 11:14 PM |
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Jan-05-10 09:14 AM |
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uh, no, it doesn't. the first world's birthrates have gone down near universally since |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 11:29 PM |
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2 things. |
greyl |
Jan-04-10 12:52 AM |
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first world population increases, since approximately the 70s, due to immigration. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-04-10 01:23 AM |
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I have a bad feeling it's going to take care of itself soon. |
shadowknows69 |
Jan-03-10 03:14 PM |
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Well, people have been having that bad feeling since Malthus. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 03:16 PM |
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Jan-03-10 11:20 PM |
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no, his predictions were based on the assumption that people would |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 11:30 PM |
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Jan-03-10 11:33 PM |
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no, i wouldn't say. Children per woman over the entire first world = below replacement rate. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 11:43 PM |
#187 |
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Here is a cynical, somewhat funny column about people in numbers |
tabatha |
Jan-03-10 03:15 PM |
#81 |
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Anything we do will cause its own problems |
The2ndWheel |
Jan-03-10 03:33 PM |
#92 |
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We could move everyone in the world to Texas and they would 1000sq ft to live in |
The Straight Story |
Jan-03-10 03:51 PM |
#95 |
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That's like holding up a white piece of paper, and claiming ANWR is just fine for oil drilling. |
Gregorian |
Jan-03-10 05:31 PM |
#127 |
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People have been saying it was not fine for a really long time, and yet it still is |
The Straight Story |
Jan-03-10 06:41 PM |
#144 |
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Global warming. |
Gregorian |
Jan-03-10 09:43 PM |
#166 |
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Strengthening the social safety net. |
JVS |
Jan-03-10 04:22 PM |
#106 |
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Good questions, and a substantive topic, |
LWolf |
Jan-03-10 04:30 PM |
#111 |
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"I was lucky enough to marry two women who also understood the problem" |
Kaleva |
Jan-03-10 04:56 PM |
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I've been fortunate in my marriages. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 07:08 PM |
#152 |
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Spay/neuter program for children. |
flvegan |
Jan-03-10 05:32 PM |
#128 |
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If you release them they'll just get diseases and get hit by cars, asshole. nt |
LeftyMom |
Jan-03-10 05:49 PM |
#130 |
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Perhaps a bit extreme, but certainly a functional plan. |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 07:52 PM |
#158 |
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limit people to two children. |
Terra Alta |
Jan-03-10 06:23 PM |
#133 |
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mandatory population control...? |
dysfunctional press |
Jan-03-10 06:29 PM |
#136 |
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Most religions are meant to manage and control people, |
Ferret Mike |
Jan-03-10 06:35 PM |
#138 |
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Religion is irrelevant to our government, or should be, if the |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 07:09 PM |
#153 |
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mandatory population control would would prohibit free exercise of people's religion... |
dysfunctional press |
Jan-03-10 10:11 PM |
#168 |
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Countries with the highest access to education have the lowest birth rates. |
LanternWaste |
Jan-03-10 06:37 PM |
#140 |
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+! |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 06:39 PM |
#142 |
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I'd certainly support that. If the money we spent waging war could |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 07:43 PM |
#157 |
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The population eventually will be controlled. |
roamer65 |
Jan-03-10 06:44 PM |
#145 |
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I've thought about starting a non-profit concerning this issue. |
20score |
Jan-03-10 07:16 PM |
#155 |
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6. Non-parenthood as a legitimate life choice. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-03-10 08:41 PM |
#160 |
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Agreed. |
20score |
Jan-03-10 10:00 PM |
#167 |
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What about long-term contraceptives? |
MineralMan |
Jan-03-10 07:42 PM |
#156 |
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Irradiation of the gonads. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jan-03-10 10:13 PM |
#169 |
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How do we ecourage a reduction in the rate of population increase? -- PROMOTE PROSPERITY -- |
smalll |
Jan-03-10 10:55 PM |
#171 |
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Actually, prosperity tends to add a short term boost to birth and infant survival rates. |
Bucky |
Jan-03-10 11:28 PM |
#181 |
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Egypt has never been a prosperous country for most of its people. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 11:38 PM |
#185 |
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When they built the Aswan Dam, they provided a boost to jobs, electrified villages, improved health |
Bucky |
Jan-03-10 11:45 PM |
#188 |
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"poverty rate shrinking" doesn't = achieved a middle class society. It never happened. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 11:52 PM |
#189 |
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Unchecked population growth essentially moots environmentalism. |
Romulox |
Jan-03-10 11:14 PM |
#174 |
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It's more of a distribution of resources problem then an overpopulation problem. |
Kaleva |
Jan-03-10 11:41 PM |
#186 |
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Worldwide it's more about the destruction of resources that are required to have a decent |
bertman |
Jan-04-10 12:26 AM |
#191 |
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From 1980 to the present US consumption of electricity per capita |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-04-10 01:39 AM |
#196 |
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Homes used to have 60 amp fuze panels. Now 200 amp CB panels are the norm. |
Kaleva |
Jan-04-10 06:52 AM |
#197 |
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so what? is the average person in the US's lifestyle 50% better than in 1980? |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-04-10 07:12 AM |
#200 |
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What size panel do you have? |
Kaleva |
Jan-04-10 08:40 AM |
#205 |
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You're correct about the 100 amp panel, at least in our area, Kaleva. |
bertman |
Jan-04-10 09:26 AM |
#209 |
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Correlating standard of living to consumption of electricity sounds specious to me, but |
bertman |
Jan-04-10 09:44 AM |
#210 |
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Do Nothing |
onpatrol98 |
Jan-04-10 12:23 AM |
#190 |
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Education |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-04-10 12:31 AM |
#192 |
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I made that same decision but earlier in life |
madokie |
Jan-04-10 07:09 AM |
#199 |
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Definitely not mandatory that would meet to much resistance but condoms should globally be free and |
ProgressOnTheMove |
Jan-04-10 09:47 AM |
#212 |
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Capitalism exacerbates overpopulation. |
blindpig |
Jan-05-10 09:50 AM |
#218 |
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First world citizens are the ones using the lion's share of the resources. "We have met the enemy |
raccoon |
Jan-05-10 09:52 AM |
#219 |
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Well, my wife and I are planning to have 4 kids but I think everyone else should just have 1. |
cbdo2007 |
Jan-05-10 09:58 AM |
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No. I have 2, and intend to remain that way. Exactly because of the reasons laid out in this thread. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jan-05-10 10:11 AM |
#222 |
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I wasn't trying to call people out for being hypocrites necessarily..... |
cbdo2007 |
Jan-05-10 10:43 AM |
#223 |
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Maybe a good point - anyone else notice an increase in infertile males you know lately? |
cbdo2007 |
Jan-05-10 10:54 AM |
#224 |