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| 30. Suss-O-Meter is off the scale. |
| -People are angry, DU |
Fading Captain |
Jan-03-10 01:07 AM |
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The one over all encompassing reason this will fail on a large scale |
AllentownJake |
Jan-03-10 01:13 AM |
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Ditto |
TomCADem |
Jan-03-10 01:18 AM |
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Ditto |
TomCADem |
Jan-03-10 01:18 AM |
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Wasn't he behind the Plame outing? |
Cetacea |
Jan-03-10 01:22 AM |
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He was also the same Dick that stood in the way back in the |
Jamastiene |
Jan-03-10 05:06 AM |
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Huh, I thought Cheney and Rove were behind the Plame outing with the help of |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 12:18 PM |
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It is, but here in Red State hell I am talking again with people that haven't spoken to me |
Greyhound |
Jan-03-10 01:28 AM |
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You are defending red state hell. nt |
babylonsister |
Jan-03-10 01:32 AM |
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that is surely so. +100. |
cali |
Jan-03-10 02:55 AM |
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hardly. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:15 AM |
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This anger is real - on both sides of the political spectrum. Conditions are ripe for a 3rd party |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-03-10 07:43 AM |
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It's 3rd party, no apologist time in the U.S. Perot polled 17% before he exited & it's much more |
polpilot |
Jan-03-10 10:51 AM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Jan-03-10 01:32 AM |
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People who fought me for years about labor issues and social programs have had |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 02:58 AM |
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I appreciate what you are saying. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 10:15 AM |
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+1. I know lots of wingers who are wingers because of their good goals & hearts |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:14 AM |
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Thanks for fighting the good fight. n/t |
Laelth |
Jan-03-10 06:44 AM |
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"There are a lot of fairly bright people on the other side" |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 10:09 AM |
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Do the teabaggers know this? They think they're the reincarnation of the fucking sons of liberty. |
JVS |
Jan-03-10 02:42 AM |
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George Soros, we need you! |
DailyGrind51 |
Jan-03-10 08:26 AM |
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Dick Armey's |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 09:58 AM |
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They have been voting for their own destruction and destruction of their children for 30 years |
AllentownJake |
Jan-03-10 10:16 AM |
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yeah. filed under duh. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jan-03-10 11:24 AM |
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Unrec because I couldn't disagree more with your premise |
rockymountaindem |
Jan-03-10 01:20 AM |
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i disagree with *your* premise, which seems to be that all wingers = |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:19 AM |
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I don't think this is true of all right-wingers... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-03-10 10:51 AM |
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That's why his poll numbers keep tanking. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-03-10 01:21 AM |
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No kidding. Is this really DU? Ugh. nt |
babylonsister |
Jan-03-10 01:25 AM |
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Basically, what all these people are basically trying to say... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jan-03-10 01:26 AM |
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NO kidding..... |
cliffordu |
Jan-03-10 01:38 AM |
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His Numbers Aren't Rising With the People Who Got Him Into Office - The Independents |
Toasterlad |
Jan-03-10 08:40 AM |
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+1 |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Jan-03-10 10:34 AM |
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Cripes. Are you serious? Who do YOU want to support? What side are YOU |
babylonsister |
Jan-03-10 01:24 AM |
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People can disagree without being disagreeable, per Obama. |
Jamastiene |
Jan-03-10 05:32 AM |
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Obama has 'reached out' by using as surrogates |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-03-10 06:28 AM |
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+1 |
Toasterlad |
Jan-03-10 08:41 AM |
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Nothing has better illustrated |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 10:19 AM |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Jan-03-10 01:33 AM |
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You mean the people who would have been union members (until |
tblue |
Jan-03-10 01:34 AM |
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win whose trust back? |
Teaser |
Jan-03-10 01:52 AM |
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Exactly, the Reagan "Democrats," the Perot Voters |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 03:21 AM |
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yes. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:20 AM |
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"It's gonna take a lot of effort and time to win back people's trust" |
Kansas Wyatt |
Jan-03-10 10:00 AM |
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He could change it overnight. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 10:26 AM |
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Last Night on the McLaughlin show, John MC. made the following |
OHdem10 |
Jan-03-10 01:41 AM |
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"He implied we would see angry protests with larger and larger crowds through this country." |
Teaser |
Jan-03-10 01:44 AM |
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You do not have to be a friend of the Common Man if you have |
OHdem10 |
Jan-03-10 01:56 AM |
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in this case, the "good sources" are probably egging on discontent & lack of |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:28 AM |
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Zactly! nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 10:29 AM |
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The Cavuto hour? Fox News is champion of fake "Democrats for Republicans" type things. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jan-03-10 02:37 AM |
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If John's saying it, he's probably rubbing his hands together in glee & in |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:23 AM |
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Exactly. And that is why pseudo-'populist' movements that include far left and far right are so |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-03-10 10:34 AM |
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If the leader of "Democratic Teabaggers" is a Democrat... |
jmowreader |
Jan-03-10 11:42 AM |
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I'm not on the side of the people |
CC |
Jan-03-10 02:04 AM |
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I couldn't have said it better CC |
proud patriot |
Jan-03-10 03:54 AM |
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so you think people are incapable of learning & change based on new information |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:30 AM |
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I think people stuffed with hate and bigotry |
cali |
Jan-03-10 05:31 AM |
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i think hate & bigotry is neither permanent attribute nor essential personality feature. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:37 AM |
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agreed that it's not confined to wingers but it's far more |
cali |
Jan-03-10 05:40 AM |
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i've seen too many people change their political opinions & orientation to buy the |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:47 AM |
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This may be true of people who have never known anything else.. |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-03-10 10:58 AM |
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Um. Yes. |
JoeyT |
Jan-03-10 07:23 AM |
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"they". you know them all, do you? check out this famous picture of a teabagger type: |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 07:29 AM |
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They're not all immune to changing. |
JoeyT |
Jan-03-10 08:36 AM |
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Thanks, JoeyT. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 10:38 AM |
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These people are not going to receive |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 10:35 AM |
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Perfectly well said. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 10:33 AM |
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If you think the conservative folks are on your side |
JeffR |
Jan-03-10 02:32 AM |
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A lot of people agree with you... |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-03-10 02:34 AM |
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starbucks? please. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:32 AM |
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Those people were more than happy to align with racist assholes and stand side by side with them |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jan-03-10 02:36 AM |
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We need a NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY to defeat the rethugs and the dnc........ |
Double T |
Jan-03-10 02:47 AM |
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no, we don't we need to start where we are. that means supporting |
cali |
Jan-03-10 04:18 AM |
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The progressive candidates that 'we' have supported continue to support the corrupt corporations. |
Double T |
Jan-03-10 10:46 AM |
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This is exactly how the DLC got it's start.......at first |
Tippy |
Jan-03-10 09:07 AM |
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I am not on the side of bigots. I am not on the side of those who want to |
cali |
Jan-03-10 02:54 AM |
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I'm With Cali |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-03-10 05:32 AM |
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contrary to your totalizing narrative, not all wingers post on fr. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 07:23 AM |
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Suss-O-Meter is off the scale. |
Sapphocrat |
Jan-03-10 02:59 AM |
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???? |
cali |
Jan-03-10 03:00 AM |
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*clutching chest* |
Sapphocrat |
Jan-03-10 03:16 AM |
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Liberals ignored the takeover of the media and lost the ability to communicate their agenda to the |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 03:09 AM |
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I agree with your philosophy...it's the only way... |
CoffeeCat |
Jan-03-10 03:26 AM |
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Correct. One model for this is Sanders joining with Ron Paul joining forces calling for the audit of |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 03:40 AM |
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ron paul? for christssake, he's a phoney & a plant. besides being racist winger. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:34 AM |
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But his followers |
maryf |
Jan-03-10 08:20 AM |
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So you will oppose Bernie Sanders' legislation that Ron Paul joined him in sponsoring calling for an |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 11:42 AM |
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Economics don't always trump social issues. Or the other way round, either |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-03-10 11:20 AM |
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Moreover... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-03-10 11:23 AM |
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You have persuaded me. Thinking outside the box is bad. What we've been doing is just fine. |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 12:00 PM |
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Ok, here's an idea. Let's just continue to stand on our respective sides and scream at each other |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 11:48 AM |
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I think you are full of shit, and about 4 or 5 years too late. |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-03-10 03:37 AM |
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Ooooh, Insults and a long list. Persuasive! nt |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 11:49 AM |
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I certainly hope Dick Armey pays you well. I can see how you may have mistaken.. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Jan-03-10 03:47 AM |
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What I find curious is that so many pro Rick Warren posters |
Jamastiene |
Jan-03-10 05:40 AM |
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false analogy. there were very few people here who were pro-Warren |
cali |
Jan-03-10 05:48 AM |
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there's a significant element of the grassroots right that is indeed |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:54 AM |
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good point. yes, the same posters berating people who dare suggest |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 05:53 AM |
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I'm against anyone getting into bed with the far right, including Warren etc. |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-03-10 11:33 AM |
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Isn't that interesting? |
laughingliberal |
Jan-03-10 12:04 PM |
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Jan-03-10 06:05 AM |
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Jan-03-10 08:24 AM |
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Populism is one thing- trying to talk sense with lunatics is quite another. |
depakid |
Jan-03-10 06:13 AM |
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This thread was never going to end well. n/t |
Orsino |
Jan-03-10 06:16 AM |
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Yes--- lots of love here ----n/t |
saigon68 |
Jan-03-10 06:26 AM |
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I'm capable of multitasking |
lbrtbell |
Jan-03-10 06:29 AM |
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Exactly. I automatically suspect the motives of anyone who tells me not to watch KO and Rachel |
Berry Cool |
Jan-03-10 09:48 AM |
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You said it, Berry Cool! nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 11:06 AM |
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+1 ! nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 11:05 AM |
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that is why it is so important for some to push hate and religious intolerance |
G_j |
Jan-03-10 06:45 AM |
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economics trumps all. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-10 07:24 AM |
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I don't know |
G_j |
Jan-03-10 07:53 AM |
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Democrats ignore this real and growing anger at their PERIL. It's stupid and smug to do so - |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-03-10 07:40 AM |
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Yes, people are angry. |
JoeyT |
Jan-03-10 07:48 AM |
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Here's the problem with your argument |
tularetom |
Jan-03-10 08:00 AM |
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I dream of killing TV's |
maryf |
Jan-03-10 08:12 AM |
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And we all have the capacity to be anti-TV bigots, as many people on DU show us |
Berry Cool |
Jan-03-10 09:52 AM |
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and msnbc, cnn, et al... |
maryf |
Jan-03-10 10:52 AM |
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I agree that this is , at heart, a class war |
Mari333 |
Jan-03-10 08:02 AM |
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Patton Oswalt and Bill Hicks Have Both Pointed Out That Government Uses the Little Things... |
Toasterlad |
Jan-03-10 08:57 AM |
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+100000 perfectly stated. |
Mari333 |
Jan-03-10 08:58 AM |
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Very perceptive post! |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 11:11 AM |
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I'm on the side of the people!! |
maryf |
Jan-03-10 08:06 AM |
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DU is angry; Tea baggers are angry, Both sides love to rant and rave but neither listens much |
stray cat |
Jan-03-10 08:08 AM |
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Actually about 75% of the country is pissed off right now |
AllentownJake |
Jan-03-10 08:28 AM |
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Not everyone who is pissed off is my friend |
Berry Cool |
Jan-03-10 09:53 AM |
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It's the economy, stupid.. |
sendero |
Jan-03-10 08:08 AM |
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What horseshit- you obviously never talked to a real Teabagger |
jpak |
Jan-03-10 09:33 AM |
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This is laughable. And trollish. The the conservative folks are not and never will be |
TwilightGardener |
Jan-03-10 09:43 AM |
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Disagree. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 09:54 AM |
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Rachel Maddow is the exact opposite of Beck, Limbaugh et al. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jan-03-10 09:56 AM |
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Correct. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 11:15 AM |
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I will NEVER be on the same side as the teabaggers |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-03-10 10:42 AM |
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FUCK THAT NOISE! |
WeDidIt |
Jan-03-10 10:57 AM |
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You sound like Rahm Emanuel. |
Individualist |
Jan-03-10 11:02 AM |
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I agree with yith you! K&R |
Odin2005 |
Jan-03-10 11:02 AM |
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See post # 62. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-03-10 11:16 AM |
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Thanks for trying |
Yuugal |
Jan-03-10 11:27 AM |
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Locking |
cbayer |
Jan-03-10 12:19 PM |
#139 |
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