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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 01:19 PM
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44. i jsut do not see the teacher able to do this. i know families. it does not matter
what teacher and schools do, from their upbringing they do not have it to do what is required.

i have a brother with three kids, horrible raising in so many ways. both boys in highschool, brilliant, high iq. school easy for them. but regardless of what we can do to help them, they like being able to do as please. not following rules. running wild. they had a lifetime of parents that taught them irresponsibility and that is what they live. there is no magic answer
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  -Who's going to save public education? mia  Jan-01-10 10:47 AM   #0 
  - k and r--but question, should it not be "who's" rather than "whose"??  niyad   Jan-01-10 10:49 AM   #1 
  - Thanks.  mia   Jan-01-10 10:58 AM   #4 
  - apparently not the author of the OP :-)  ProdigalJunkMail   Jan-01-10 10:51 AM   #2 
  - You're right about that.  mia   Jan-01-10 11:01 AM   #6 
  - Dean/DK 2012 knr nt  Union Yes   Jan-01-10 10:56 AM   #3 
  - Actually teachers, more than parents, do  tonysam   Jan-01-10 10:59 AM   #5 
  - "Free speech and civil rights don't apply to teachers."  mia   Jan-01-10 11:22 AM   #11 
  - Teachers are a "special interest group"  LWolf   Jan-01-10 12:07 PM   #16 
  - What is always left out of these dicsussions  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-01-10 11:03 AM   #7 
  - two or three decades ago they went to their own special school.  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 11:10 AM   #9 
  - One of my good friends was transferred to an alternative school this year  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-01-10 11:20 AM   #10 
  - there ya go. nt  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 12:09 PM   #17 
  - my husband was a student at an alternative high school.  liberal_at_heart   Jan-01-10 03:02 PM   #52 
  - Used to make kids who misbehaved stay after school  JDPriestly   Jan-01-10 01:05 PM   #39 
  - Some students learn better with self-directed programs.  mia   Jan-01-10 11:50 AM   #12 
  - Quite right!  elleng   Jan-01-10 12:05 PM   #15 
  - More and more charter schools are using the technolgy .  mia   Jan-01-10 12:15 PM   #20 
     - Indeed.  elleng   Jan-01-10 12:30 PM   #25 
  - Public education...we know  LWolf   Jan-01-10 12:11 PM   #18 
  - Identify mis-behavior immediately. Kindergarten isn't too soon.  mia   Jan-01-10 12:49 PM   #31 
     - Agreed!  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-01-10 12:52 PM   #33 
     - or 9th grade...  Catshrink   Jan-01-10 01:00 PM   #36 
        - my son is a freshman. one of his classes there are a couple boys sittin together. crude and vile  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 01:04 PM   #37 
     - the middle school boys are/were in iss. doesnt take much for a kid to be placed in iss  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 01:08 PM   #40 
  - point on. that is what i see and i have seen private and public. teachers, adm  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 11:09 AM   #8 
  - Parenting classes should be part of the high school curriculum  mia   Jan-01-10 11:55 AM   #13 
     - this is another program we implement into school to do the parents job  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 12:14 PM   #19 
        - Many parents don't know what to do. Community school based  mia   Jan-01-10 12:56 PM   #35 
  - I taught for 10 years from 80-90  Yupster   Jan-01-10 12:02 PM   #14 
  - Yes it is a lack of money  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-01-10 12:21 PM   #21 
  - Or pay raises for teachers, if the legislature votes for raises and not cuts  Catshrink   Jan-01-10 12:26 PM   #23 
  - I agree that money is AN issue, but...  hughee99   Jan-01-10 12:29 PM   #24 
     - They are disruptive because their needs are not being met  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-01-10 12:48 PM   #30 
        - So this particular issue is not related to teacher pay, then, right? n/t  hughee99   Jan-01-10 12:52 PM   #32 
           - Well you could argue that higher pay would allow teachers to take more courses  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-01-10 12:55 PM   #34 
              - You COULD argue that, but you have to work at it...  hughee99   Jan-01-10 01:05 PM   #38 
              - Of course teacher pay won't address every problem we have  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-01-10 01:16 PM   #42 
                 - i jsut do not see the teacher able to do this. i know families. it does not matter  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 01:19 PM   #44 
                    - The answer is consequences  proud2BlibKansan   Jan-01-10 01:28 PM   #45 
                       - one would hope, but even the "system" is letting them go without consequences.  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 02:01 PM   #49 
              - More courses will not help.  JDPriestly   Jan-01-10 02:13 PM   #50 
  - Parents.  Catshrink   Jan-01-10 12:23 PM   #22 
  - i agree. i have watched over and over in different schools. private and public.  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 12:31 PM   #26 
     - How's this one?  Catshrink   Jan-01-10 12:44 PM   #28 
        - 6th and 9th...  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 01:14 PM   #41 
  - Not a lack of money?  walldude   Jan-01-10 12:39 PM   #27 
  - i hear ya  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 01:16 PM   #43 
  - Maybe a question of allocating money, but  Yupster   Jan-01-10 04:05 PM   #55 
     - 60-70K? Bullshit.  walldude   Jan-01-10 04:35 PM   #56 
        - According to the jobsite, the average  Yupster   Jan-01-10 04:58 PM   #57 
        - interesting. i am in texas. know some teachers but asking pay  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 05:01 PM   #59 
        - That's  Yupster   Jan-01-10 06:17 PM   #60 
        - i was wondering about the 50k.  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 05:00 PM   #58 
  - The involvement of the parents. The pay of the parents.  haele   Jan-01-10 02:52 PM   #51 
     - I agree with everything you say.  mia   Jan-01-10 07:39 PM   #61 
        - it isnt just the poor and disadvantage child. i think that is probably the greater thing today  seabeyond   Jan-01-10 07:41 PM   #62 
           - Yes, ths children come from all income levels.  mia   Jan-01-10 08:25 PM   #63 
  - No one. The Third Way and the conservatives are on the same page.  mmonk   Jan-01-10 12:45 PM   #29 
  - Just spent some time learning about "The Third Way".  mia   Jan-01-10 01:59 PM   #48 
  - The technology needed is to keep the lousy kids away from the normal kids  AngryAmish   Jan-01-10 01:56 PM   #46 
  - It's salvageable and worth salvaging, but left to me I'd put Bill Bradley in  saltpoint   Jan-01-10 01:57 PM   #47 
     - Worth salvaging yes but is it truely salvageable?  mackerel   Jan-01-10 03:08 PM   #53 
        - I think it is, certainly. Madison and Jefferson had a good idea and  saltpoint   Jan-01-10 03:29 PM   #54 

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