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Mon Dec-28-09 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #13 |
| -Criticizing the President on Health Care is “Naderite” and “Hurts the Progressive Agenda” - FDL |
WillyT |
Dec-28-09 06:35 PM |
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Oye |
bluestateguy |
Dec-28-09 06:37 PM |
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Oye, oye... |
Skidmore |
Dec-28-09 06:39 PM |
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. |
ProSense |
Dec-28-09 06:41 PM |
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Yes, failure to criticize the administration's policies when they favor the right hurts the |
laughingliberal |
Dec-28-09 06:42 PM |
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Yes. And even worse, it will hurt the American people. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Dec-28-09 06:43 PM |
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True and my point is if the American people are hurt, I damn sure don't want the label "progressive" |
laughingliberal |
Dec-28-09 06:44 PM |
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Agreed. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Dec-28-09 07:18 PM |
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hmmm |
DJ13 |
Dec-28-09 06:43 PM |
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Jane Hamsher - Moving ever faster over the cliff |
WeDidIt |
Dec-28-09 06:43 PM |
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Actually, she's right |
DJ13 |
Dec-28-09 06:47 PM |
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No, she's dead wrong, and an egomaniac at that, too. |
WeDidIt |
Dec-28-09 06:49 PM |
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You're blind, no point in continuing this |
DJ13 |
Dec-28-09 06:51 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Dec-28-09 06:52 PM |
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Well, since we know that Rahm screamed at the |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-29-09 02:51 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Dec-28-09 06:49 PM |
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what's so moronic about it? |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-28-09 07:02 PM |
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+100 |
WillyT |
Dec-28-09 07:12 PM |
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You go girl. |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-09 07:39 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Dec-29-09 12:56 AM |
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>>I will be watching to see what Obama is really about. |
tbyg52 |
Dec-29-09 09:58 AM |
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Recommending Post #21 by ima_sinnic. |
bvar22 |
Dec-29-09 02:27 PM |
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f@ckin' A |
leeroysphitz |
Dec-29-09 02:42 PM |
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+1 |
get the red out |
Dec-28-09 07:35 PM |
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Wow... Deep Fart !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-28-09 08:08 PM |
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isn't that a puma in your avatar? strange ... (nt) |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-28-09 08:14 PM |
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. |
HughMoran |
Dec-28-09 06:50 PM |
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Failure to criticize if you think criticism is due isn't democracy. |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-28-09 06:51 PM |
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Well Said... |
WillyT |
Dec-28-09 06:53 PM |
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+1 |
liberal_at_heart |
Dec-28-09 06:58 PM |
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One of the problems is it appears that many no longer want a democracy. |
TheWatcher |
Dec-28-09 07:01 PM |
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"So This Is How Liberty Dies.....With Thunderous Applause" |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-28-09 07:08 PM |
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Really good post. "They want to feel good, be on a "winning team" |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-09 07:55 PM |
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You Are Correct About The Sports Mindset... |
WillyT |
Dec-28-09 08:03 PM |
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Then once your on the winning team, the only thing that matters is the game. |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-09 08:14 PM |
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Bingo !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-28-09 08:44 PM |
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I can't play politics that way. Call me naive, but |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-28-09 11:43 PM |
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Every day that I am on this board it becomes more and more obvious to me that the democratic party |
liberal_at_heart |
Dec-28-09 06:54 PM |
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+1 |
DJ13 |
Dec-28-09 06:55 PM |
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+++1x10^25 you speak for me |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-28-09 07:06 PM |
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When the Republican Party imploded I expected a huge wave of immigration. |
glitch |
Dec-28-09 07:35 PM |
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The "A third party cannot win" meme is a construct of the two RULING PARTIES. Every time |
bertman |
Dec-29-09 01:28 AM |
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It's not BS. A third party has no chance. |
Confusious |
Dec-29-09 05:59 AM |
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Confusious, certainly they do not have a chance at an electoral sweep or gaining majority status |
bertman |
Dec-29-09 12:41 PM |
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I agree with you it would be great to have more then one party |
Confusious |
Dec-29-09 12:52 PM |
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It's not JUST "the system". It's also our American tendency to absorb what the Corporate Media |
bertman |
Dec-29-09 01:11 PM |
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I don't want a 3rd Party. |
bvar22 |
Dec-29-09 02:31 PM |
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delete. |
bvar22 |
Dec-29-09 02:31 PM |
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++++1 |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-29-09 07:14 AM |
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Until we clean up how votes are counted -- by corporations, corporatists will "win" the vote counts. |
glitch |
Dec-29-09 10:25 AM |
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I agree that we need to clean up our voting methodology, but to use that as an excuse is |
bertman |
Dec-29-09 12:46 PM |
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I say vote, I don't say who to vote for. I think you might be projecting an argument onto me |
glitch |
Dec-29-09 02:47 PM |
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There is also a spine problem with many of the Dems. |
L0oniX |
Dec-28-09 07:54 PM |
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Indeed. It has been very worrisome. |
Blasphemer |
Dec-28-09 09:09 PM |
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"It is the broken democratic party that is putting republicans in office." |
Jamastiene |
Dec-29-09 06:45 AM |
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Let's consider WHAT we are defending when we reflexively defend the President then: |
TiberiusGracchus |
Dec-29-09 12:29 PM |
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+100000000000000000 |
shadesofgray |
Dec-29-09 02:55 PM |
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I'm very close to that also. |
sendero |
Dec-29-09 03:00 PM |
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whenever someone claims that the left is "playing into" the hands of the right, |
MisterP |
Dec-28-09 07:01 PM |
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+++1000 |
laughingliberal |
Dec-28-09 07:23 PM |
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well said |
Moochy |
Dec-29-09 02:37 PM |
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How embarrassing for Katrina. n/t |
EFerrari |
Dec-28-09 07:23 PM |
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really, she's been pressured & caved! K & R |
amborin |
Dec-28-09 07:26 PM |
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i doubt it. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-29-09 02:16 AM |
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ok but i disagree |
amborin |
Dec-29-09 03:30 AM |
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what i meant is, she didn't have to be pressured. i don't think the nation is progressive, either. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-29-09 06:32 AM |
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I go to "The Nation" frequently enough to consider it a Progressive site. It's not always |
bertman |
Dec-29-09 12:55 PM |
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Their Venezuela correspondent was Vivanco's #2 guy. |
EFerrari |
Dec-29-09 01:50 PM |
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Washington Bubble... Strikes Again |
WillyT |
Dec-28-09 07:45 PM |
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Hamsher the attention whore writes "Rahm Emanuel’s need for self-promotion" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
KittyWampus |
Dec-28-09 07:46 PM |
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Isn't the main criticism of the President is that he left Congress to its own devices? |
rucky |
Dec-28-09 07:56 PM |
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precisely. |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-28-09 08:09 PM |
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Publicly, so he can create an appearence of distance from the final bill |
DJ13 |
Dec-28-09 08:29 PM |
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and also he can distance himself if and when the shit hits the fan and people SEE they are getting |
Donnachaidh |
Dec-28-09 08:44 PM |
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It's an embarrassingly transparent ploy which is going to bite them in the ass. |
jgraz |
Dec-29-09 12:50 AM |
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he's either weak & inept or machiavellian & deceitful. either way, he looks bad |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-29-09 02:19 AM |
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Nobody said the boosters were big on logic. |
jgraz |
Dec-29-09 02:31 AM |
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My thoughts exactly. nt |
tbyg52 |
Dec-29-09 10:05 AM |
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The senate was already bought and sold by pharma. |
rucky |
Dec-29-09 01:36 PM |
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Because American voters respond so well to "shut up and eat your health insurance" style messages. |
McCamy Taylor |
Dec-28-09 08:01 PM |
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Can't be. Hamsher asked Van den Heuvel about it and she defended it. n/t |
clear eye |
Dec-29-09 04:56 AM |
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I wonder about that too sometimes. //nt |
Overseas |
Dec-29-09 02:54 PM |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Dec-29-09 12:57 AM |
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van den heuvel = granddaughter of MCA ("the octopus") founder Jules Stein, |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-29-09 01:17 AM |
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Holy Shit! Hannah Bell, that's some scary stuff. Another left-wing Eastern Establishment type. |
bertman |
Dec-29-09 01:36 AM |
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Stein wasn't an east-coast establishment type, though. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-29-09 01:58 AM |
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Original research on Dulles here: |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-29-09 06:07 AM |
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I appreciate the info. Will read it later when I have an opportunity. nt |
bertman |
Dec-29-09 01:01 PM |
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thanks so much for that information. |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-29-09 04:22 AM |
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Always happy when someone shows interest. Where'd you go to school, if you don't mind my asking. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-29-09 06:25 AM |
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wow, fantastic research |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-29-09 07:08 AM |
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interesting, thank you. pretty amazing on the tri-delt questionnaire. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-29-09 01:25 PM |
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Only some of our "American Royalty" are descended from the original aristocratic families |
bertman |
Dec-29-09 01:00 PM |
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wow.... |
fascisthunter |
Dec-29-09 01:20 PM |
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I agree with Jane that the use of referring to critics of real action taken by the administration |
mmonk |
Dec-29-09 06:32 AM |
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It's a lot simpler really; think about what people who defend the Pres. unconditionally are actually |
TiberiusGracchus |
Dec-29-09 12:31 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Dec-29-09 12:53 PM |
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+ renewed "re-engagement" in Latin America aka |
EFerrari |
Dec-29-09 01:55 PM |
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Wait a minute: |
johnaries |
Dec-29-09 02:48 PM |
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Cool. Didn't know Katrina had it in her |
TheWebHead |
Dec-29-09 03:16 PM |
#98 |
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