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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:04 PM
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37. we're all 19th-century Russian serfs now
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 03:09 PM by MisterP
or maybe the VOC's corporate Bandanese nutmeg slaves
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  -"Affordable" Health Care or "the road to Neo-Feudalism"? inna  Dec-28-09 06:37 AM   #0 
  - k&r for the truth, however depressing. n/t  Laelth   Dec-28-09 06:54 AM   #1 
  - Depressing is right. And wait, here's more:  inna   Dec-28-09 09:00 AM   #8 
     - Kicking the thread with an honor recommendation for this post.  Uncle Joe   Dec-28-09 11:53 AM   #18 
     - Just another tendril to ensnare us in a web we can't get out of  nightgaunt   Dec-28-09 02:08 PM   #26 
     - How can anyone,  Delphinus   Dec-28-09 02:36 PM   #28 
     - My question as well. n/t  OttavaKarhu   Dec-28-09 08:16 PM   #58 
     - May I encourage you to make a clear and usable chart with all this information?  Nikki Stone1   Dec-28-09 03:28 PM   #40 
     - Quite simply: Our newly elected  Vermontgrown   Dec-30-09 08:23 AM   #83 
  - These figures need to be sent to every one of our representatives.  mmonk   Dec-28-09 07:20 AM   #2 
  - They don't really care  AllentownJake   Dec-28-09 07:59 AM   #3 
     - Then our job is to make them care.  mmonk   Dec-28-09 08:00 AM   #4 
        - YES  Nikki Stone1   Dec-28-09 03:14 PM   #38 
  - k&r n/t  blindpig   Dec-28-09 08:21 AM   #5 
  - As a 55 yr old woman from NJ (where ther are tons of regulations in place..  Walk away   Dec-28-09 08:44 AM   #6 
  - Have you tried this calculator?  inna   Dec-28-09 09:17 AM   #10 
     - I just ran the calculator figures, and I'd be WORSE OFF  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-28-09 01:27 PM   #23 
        - My retirement money is already in European banks in euros and pounds  emsimon33   Dec-28-09 02:38 PM   #29 
        - That was smart.  Nikki Stone1   Dec-28-09 03:49 PM   #43 
        - How do I do that?  Goldstein1984   Dec-28-09 05:09 PM   #47 
        - +1  Nikki Stone1   Dec-28-09 03:15 PM   #39 
        - Great. Another "got mine and ran" liberal.  OttavaKarhu   Dec-28-09 08:19 PM   #59 
           - Yeah, liberals get under your skin, don't they?  Wednesdays   Dec-28-09 09:22 PM   #64 
  - How many people hit annual max every single year.  Statistical   Dec-28-09 08:53 AM   #7 
  - So that means that they're paying thousands of dollars a year for NOTHING  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-28-09 09:02 AM   #9 
  - So your dream future is being the overclass in Mexico?  OttavaKarhu   Dec-28-09 08:20 PM   #61 
     - If it's my only hope for survival under this shitty health care system, yes  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-28-09 09:49 PM   #66 
  - True, but... that's not the point. The point is that...  inna   Dec-28-09 09:55 AM   #12 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Dec-28-09 09:32 AM   #11 
  - You're very welcome.  inna   Dec-28-09 10:01 AM   #13 
     - Yes, I read the entire thread up to my post and I would've recommended your post #8 on it's own  Uncle Joe   Dec-28-09 10:38 AM   #17 
  - You've told us what Paul Krugman should have  WeCanWorkItOut   Dec-28-09 10:09 AM   #14 
  - Oh come on. It's not "Neo-Feudalism".  jgraz   Dec-28-09 10:27 AM   #15 
  - Hey there, nice avatar! :)  inna   Dec-28-09 12:53 PM   #20 
     - I just go with whomever's being attacked by the Rahmpologists  jgraz   Dec-28-09 12:57 PM   #21 
        - +1000  amborin   Dec-28-09 02:44 PM   #34 
        - I'm going to go with hammer this piece of crap and bash Hamsher  TheKentuckian   Dec-28-09 04:30 PM   #45 
  - Our multimillionaire "representatives" have NO IDEA what it is to live as a common person. nt  Romulox   Dec-28-09 10:31 AM   #16 
  - Nor do they much care. nt  laughingliberal   Dec-28-09 02:47 PM   #35 
  - K&R thanks for posting this!  amborin   Dec-28-09 12:01 PM   #19 
  - This is why wanting House Dems to vote against this cannot be called  clear eye   Dec-28-09 01:11 PM   #22 
  - +1000  amborin   Dec-28-09 02:44 PM   #33 
  - k&r.  ipaint   Dec-28-09 01:43 PM   #24 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Dec-28-09 01:45 PM   #25 
  - Excellent post. I've printed it and will copy it for the get-together  icee   Dec-28-09 02:25 PM   #27 
  - This bill is Obama's "read my lips" moment!  emsimon33   Dec-28-09 02:40 PM   #30 
  - A "corporate tithe": EXACTLY.  Nikki Stone1   Dec-28-09 02:41 PM   #31 
  - K&R  Echo In Light   Dec-28-09 02:42 PM   #32 
  - Thanks for posting this. I just don't think people see how much this is a major  laughingliberal   Dec-28-09 02:51 PM   #36 
  - Here's a fitting quote:  inna   Dec-28-09 04:23 PM   #44 
     - +1000  amborin   Dec-28-09 07:15 PM   #56 
     - This is my heartbreak too.  OttavaKarhu   Dec-28-09 08:35 PM   #62 
     - For a good while now  Enthusiast   Dec-29-09 05:51 AM   #78 
  - we're all 19th-century Russian serfs now  MisterP   Dec-28-09 03:04 PM   #37 
  - Indentured to corporations with no requirements from them other than to take your money.  Greyhound   Dec-28-09 03:31 PM   #41 
  - +1000  amborin   Dec-29-09 03:14 PM   #80 
     - Thanks. n/t  Greyhound   Dec-29-09 11:12 PM   #82 
  - over the last 12 years i have filed bankruptcy twice on medical bills  madrchsod   Dec-28-09 03:49 PM   #42 
  - That's where I'd be if I ever got really sick  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-28-09 05:09 PM   #48 
  - Oh geez, I've had the same experience with my former insurance company  Lorien   Dec-28-09 07:05 PM   #55 
  - This is so sad and messed up, our current system is FUBAR on all levels.  inna   Dec-28-09 10:03 PM   #70 
  - The neo-feudalism of it all can be shown without any math--  Bette Noir   Dec-28-09 05:06 PM   #46 
  - You get COBRA for some months after leaving a job. You get to pay  JDPriestly   Dec-29-09 01:55 AM   #73 
  - Very ugly numbers  Goldstein1984   Dec-28-09 05:14 PM   #49 
  - This is great work! n/t  Johnboi70   Dec-28-09 05:16 PM   #50 
  - Neo-Feudalism -- a depressing yet truthful ring to it. nt  ProgressIn2008   Dec-28-09 05:18 PM   #51 
  - Big K & R !!!  WillyT   Dec-28-09 05:52 PM   #52 
  - Out of pocket costs- update?  hay rick   Dec-28-09 06:18 PM   #53 
  - Actually...  inna   Dec-28-09 08:20 PM   #60 
     - Out-of-pocket limit.  hay rick   Dec-28-09 08:39 PM   #63 
  - I'll say it once again; for the self employed buying their own insurance, deductibles  Lorien   Dec-28-09 06:58 PM   #54 
  - Dear Lorien - You really should check this out!  inna   Dec-28-09 09:54 PM   #68 
  - Agree entirely. K&R for the numbers, n/t  OttavaKarhu   Dec-28-09 07:58 PM   #57 
  - There could be money left over? How the blazes did they miss that?  scentopine   Dec-28-09 09:38 PM   #65 
  - Kick.  David Zephyr   Dec-28-09 09:51 PM   #67 
  - This has been the obvious problem all along  Matariki   Dec-28-09 09:59 PM   #69 
  - Thanks Inna!  debbierlus   Dec-29-09 12:11 AM   #71 
  - And, two income families may very well decide it makes more sense to just have one earner  debbierlus   Dec-29-09 12:25 AM   #72 
  - & single, self-employed people can simply cut back on work  ima_sinnic   Dec-29-09 03:55 AM   #76 
  - Proud # 100!!! This is is  autorank   Dec-29-09 02:21 AM   #74 
  - K&R... Depressing but informative... nt  Blasphemer   Dec-29-09 02:42 AM   #75 
  - excellent work, thanks so much  ima_sinnic   Dec-29-09 03:59 AM   #77 
  - afternoon kick  DemReadingDU   Dec-29-09 03:10 PM   #79 
  - Corporate/Fascism . . . they will now have a controlling interest in people's government ...  defendandprotect   Dec-29-09 04:29 PM   #81 
 

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