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Sun Dec-27-09 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #114 |
| 120. I did read it but thanks for your time to post a link to the brief from the CCR site |
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Hopefully, more and more will go to the CCR site and read about the case.
Torture has been illegal in the US for years(and years)...didn't stop Bush...so the government making that statement doesn't really mean anything considering that torture did take place and it is that torture that concerns the case.
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| -Repost: In Silence, Obama & the Supreme Court imperil Human Liberty with a Sentence |
debbierlus |
Dec-26-09 09:24 PM |
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Not enough attention paid the first time you posted this? |
WeDidIt |
Dec-26-09 09:27 PM |
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You should be ashamed for that statement. |
madfloridian |
Dec-26-09 09:34 PM |
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Thanks friend:) |
debbierlus |
Dec-26-09 09:34 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Dec-26-09 09:37 PM |
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+1 nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-26-09 09:39 PM |
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The post disappearing |
WeDidIt |
Dec-26-09 09:40 PM |
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It took me a while to look up the legal cases |
treestar |
Dec-26-09 09:43 PM |
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I thought the OP said it was because the first time it contained too many paragraphs |
laughingliberal |
Dec-26-09 10:15 PM |
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Yeah, it says the OP included too many paragraphs. |
Forkboy |
Dec-26-09 11:46 PM |
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The post reappearing by popular demand says even more! |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-27-09 12:07 AM |
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The original posting of this OP ... |
NanceGreggs |
Dec-27-09 01:48 AM |
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A response to the inanity of post #22 is my guess. |
Forkboy |
Dec-27-09 02:38 AM |
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Not talkin' to Poster # 22 ... |
NanceGreggs |
Dec-27-09 02:53 AM |
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The poster was replying to post #22. |
Forkboy |
Dec-27-09 03:04 AM |
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. |
HughMoran |
Dec-26-09 09:50 PM |
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+1 |
tblue |
Dec-26-09 09:58 PM |
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To some people, shame is an unknown, indeed, unknowable emotion, |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-27-09 09:59 AM |
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+1, madfloridian nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-27-09 10:01 AM |
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Yes, it has nothing to do with the content and the importance of the article |
debbierlus |
Dec-26-09 09:34 PM |
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Man - reading my mind |
HughMoran |
Dec-26-09 09:36 PM |
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first time i read about this..but i guess i do`t count |
madrchsod |
Dec-26-09 09:39 PM |
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you're aware this sniping just makes you look bad .... worse ............ |
omega minimo |
Dec-26-09 09:47 PM |
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Look at it this way. Had the first response in this OP not been a snipe |
WeDidIt |
Dec-26-09 09:50 PM |
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Wrong. Good Bye |
omega minimo |
Dec-26-09 09:55 PM |
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SMOOCH |
WeDidIt |
Dec-26-09 10:07 PM |
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Good Bye ? |
Johnny ramone |
Dec-27-09 11:09 AM |
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post it 100 times |
G_j |
Dec-26-09 10:04 PM |
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Everything loses its sting with repetition |
WeDidIt |
Dec-26-09 10:10 PM |
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Repetition is how people learn. |
EFerrari |
Dec-26-09 11:10 PM |
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There was no reason to delete the previous version of this |
Ken Burch |
Dec-26-09 10:39 PM |
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I think it got deleted because it was over the 4 paragraph limit |
The Green Manalishi |
Dec-27-09 02:05 PM |
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Do tell? |
gleaner |
Dec-26-09 11:06 PM |
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And that is a response to the charges made in the post how? (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Dec-26-09 11:13 PM |
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Your credibility continues to decline. She did not post it again |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-27-09 12:04 AM |
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go to hell you disgusting cretinous asshole |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-27-09 12:07 AM |
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No one, certainly not the media, is paying enough attention to the loss of our democracy |
panzerfaust |
Dec-27-09 05:54 AM |
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Gee, I THOUGHT You Saw "The Light" Guess Not!! Back To Your |
ChiciB1 |
Dec-27-09 10:08 AM |
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Shame on you. |
Political Heretic |
Dec-27-09 02:09 PM |
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Shame on you..this is important to ALL Americans... |
winyanstaz |
Dec-27-09 06:59 PM |
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Excellent article. Thank you, debbierlus. |
Octafish |
Dec-26-09 09:29 PM |
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Sweet.....I was thinking conspiracy theories Digby's got this up as |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-26-09 09:29 PM |
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K&R. I'm glad to see this reposted. It's important information. Thank you! |
highplainsdem |
Dec-26-09 09:30 PM |
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I'd suggest reading the case |
treestar |
Dec-26-09 09:30 PM |
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Dec-26-09 09:32 PM |
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You must be getting paid for Norquist too....ChaChing nt |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-26-09 09:34 PM |
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Me? You're confusing me with your hero, Jane Hamsher. I am not her. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Dec-26-09 09:37 PM |
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There ya go....ChaChing nt |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-26-09 09:39 PM |
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I'm a kind heart so I'm going to give you a chance to say something.... ummm... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Dec-26-09 09:41 PM |
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May I just say that I am impressed you managed to type a post without |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-26-09 09:43 PM |
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I love those puppies. Now, why are you defending a f******* like Hamsher? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Dec-26-09 09:44 PM |
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Crap - you blew it!! Try to go 5 minutes without mentioning her. ChaChing nt |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-26-09 09:45 PM |
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OH! Well, I'm blocking you. bye. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Dec-26-09 09:47 PM |
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do they get puppies by the word, and more puppies for certain words? |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-27-09 12:16 AM |
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I accept the puppies!!!!! |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-26-09 10:53 PM |
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I have posted those puppies all over. I just love them. I think "ignored" |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-26-09 11:58 PM |
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You ain't missin' a thing |
peace frog |
Dec-27-09 08:37 AM |
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Jealous much? |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-26-09 09:40 PM |
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I already know the difference between left and right wing |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Dec-26-09 09:42 PM |
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So why celebrate right wing decisions? |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-26-09 09:53 PM |
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Dec-26-09 09:56 PM |
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i'm starting to alert on you. you're out of control and losing it. |
inna |
Dec-26-09 10:02 PM |
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This conversation with you is over. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Dec-26-09 10:03 PM |
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Ducking out of this thread is the smartest thing you've done yet. |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-27-09 12:04 AM |
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Interesting |
Oilwellian |
Dec-27-09 02:31 AM |
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:facepalm: |
inna |
Dec-26-09 09:41 PM |
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Cute people have no need to brag. |
emilyg |
Dec-26-09 11:19 PM |
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My love for brunettes just took a severe hit. |
Forkboy |
Dec-26-09 11:23 PM |
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unbelievable |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-27-09 12:21 AM |
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I know it's confusing, but |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-26-09 09:38 PM |
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I think you'd better ask the Hamsherites in here if they agree with you |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Dec-26-09 09:53 PM |
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What has what you just wrote |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-27-09 12:02 AM |
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I think they're down to recruiting cute little brunettes |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-27-09 12:23 AM |
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Here's what Norquist said about Bush' violations of the FISA laws: |
laughingliberal |
Dec-26-09 09:38 PM |
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honestly, can you NOT come up with something a bit more original than your constant reference |
niyad |
Dec-26-09 09:59 PM |
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So, you agree with the position of the administration on this? |
laughingliberal |
Dec-26-09 10:22 PM |
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Pay no attention to that torture behind the curtain!! |
jgraz |
Dec-27-09 01:06 AM |
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LOL!!!!! |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-27-09 09:05 AM |
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Best line: |
ProSense |
Dec-26-09 09:33 PM |
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Total spin |
treestar |
Dec-26-09 09:42 PM |
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exactly |
Vattel |
Dec-26-09 11:08 PM |
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Okay, so to this lay person even after your explanations, it still sounds like the OP |
riderinthestorm |
Dec-26-09 11:32 PM |
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well, consider this for example: |
Vattel |
Dec-26-09 11:49 PM |
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Here is the lower court's decision referenced to in the OP article |
Solly Mack |
Dec-27-09 12:17 AM |
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The SCOTUS not taking a case doesn't validate what the lower court said |
onenote |
Dec-27-09 07:38 AM |
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I did read it but thanks for your time to post a link to the brief from the CCR site |
Solly Mack |
Dec-27-09 07:48 AM |
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a foreseeable consequence is something that might well happen; |
Vattel |
Dec-27-09 07:51 AM |
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This isn't a contest. The ruling does say it and now you know it does. |
Solly Mack |
Dec-27-09 07:56 AM |
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two points: |
Vattel |
Dec-27-09 08:32 AM |
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No. Sorry. I posted the correct case. In fact, the link you posted goes to the same ruling I posted. |
Solly Mack |
Dec-27-09 08:43 AM |
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Thanks Solly Mack and everyone else on this subthread who responded to my question |
riderinthestorm |
Dec-27-09 08:54 AM |
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You're welcome, riderinthestorm |
Solly Mack |
Dec-27-09 09:08 AM |
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sorry |
Vattel |
Dec-27-09 09:06 AM |
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OK. I see what you're saying now. But remand didn't change much of anything |
Solly Mack |
Dec-27-09 09:30 AM |
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The first decison |
Vattel |
Dec-27-09 10:38 AM |
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the January 11, 2008 the case I posted does indeed claim that |
Solly Mack |
Dec-27-09 11:11 AM |
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Apparently you don't understand |
Vattel |
Dec-28-09 03:50 AM |
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LMAO. Yes, of course. It's my lack of understanding |
Solly Mack |
Dec-28-09 04:53 AM |
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Oh for pity's sake. |
Vattel |
Dec-28-09 06:43 AM |
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I don't share your concern for how the US government might look based on the OP. |
Solly Mack |
Dec-28-09 08:00 AM |
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but deliberately taking it out of context to try to make the court look |
treestar |
Dec-27-09 10:08 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-27-09 10:14 AM |
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Projection of the first degree |
treestar |
Dec-27-09 10:32 AM |
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LMAO. There you go...making false claims again |
Solly Mack |
Dec-27-09 10:34 AM |
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So, that's a little inconvenient for the apologists |
laughingliberal |
Dec-28-09 08:35 AM |
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yes, we already know you're cool with torture |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-27-09 12:27 AM |
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Be fair now. She's cool with *Obama* torture. |
jgraz |
Dec-27-09 12:58 AM |
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Yes We Can torture with impunity and lie about it without a smirk! THAT's Change! |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-27-09 05:56 AM |
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That statement is so unfair to the administration and so ignorant |
treestar |
Dec-27-09 10:09 AM |
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that's just unfair, you show you are completely ignorant |
treestar |
Dec-27-09 10:05 AM |
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"read the case," knowing that, what? 97% of DUers don't "do" legalese |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-27-09 10:25 AM |
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You are blindly following a JOURNALIST? |
treestar |
Dec-27-09 10:35 AM |
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Ah, the latest apologist tactic |
jgraz |
Dec-27-09 12:28 PM |
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Since the Obama brief specifically states torture is illegal and repudiates its use |
onenote |
Dec-27-09 07:42 AM |
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Your statement is just wrong |
treestar |
Dec-27-09 10:04 AM |
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HAH |
varelse |
Dec-26-09 09:36 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Dec-26-09 09:45 PM |
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Reading this gives me a sick feeling in my gut... |
Agony |
Dec-26-09 09:45 PM |
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Thanks for reposting, and another KR! |
inna |
Dec-26-09 09:45 PM |
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This scary as shit and worthy of Bush. |
shadesofgray |
Dec-26-09 09:46 PM |
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Remind me, how is this change? |
laughingliberal |
Dec-26-09 09:48 PM |
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Chains you can believe in? Same you can beleve in? Yes We Can* |
tblue |
Dec-26-09 10:01 PM |
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k and r and thank you for posting this--since I missed it the first time. |
niyad |
Dec-26-09 09:57 PM |
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kick |
niyad |
Dec-26-09 10:05 PM |
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K&R Keep posting it. nt |
Tim01 |
Dec-26-09 10:11 PM |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Dec-26-09 10:15 PM |
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I'm sick over this. |
joeunderdog |
Dec-26-09 10:32 PM |
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. . . |
niyad |
Dec-26-09 10:32 PM |
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Important Post |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-26-09 10:37 PM |
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Do you have anything besides this persons website to back up your posting? |
MiniMe |
Dec-26-09 10:51 PM |
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here is an article from Alternet |
dana_b |
Dec-27-09 12:32 AM |
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Does the writer have any understanding of the law at all? |
Vattel |
Dec-26-09 10:51 PM |
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I read about this before the holiday ... |
gleaner |
Dec-26-09 11:04 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-26-09 11:13 PM |
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k/r - thank you. |
emilyg |
Dec-26-09 11:23 PM |
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Glad to see this back up. K&R again. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-26-09 11:26 PM |
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This sort of stupidity is beneath contempt. |
Vattel |
Dec-26-09 11:32 PM |
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"The author of this piece is clearly an idiot." |
ProSense |
Dec-27-09 02:49 AM |
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it makes a difference because it distorts what the government brief actually said |
onenote |
Dec-27-09 07:44 AM |
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I think Pro's question was rhetorical. As in the fact tha "the author is an idiot" would not matter |
Number23 |
Dec-27-09 04:35 PM |
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Another K&R. n/t |
Greyhound |
Dec-26-09 11:35 PM |
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K&R again! n/t |
dana_b |
Dec-27-09 12:33 AM |
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the fierce advocate of war crimes who lied about restoring habeas corpus |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-27-09 12:47 AM |
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the CONstitutional scholar who regards the Constitution as toilet paper |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-27-09 12:49 AM |
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Here is where you can find out all the details |
scentopine |
Dec-27-09 12:51 AM |
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This should be reposted every day. |
jgraz |
Dec-27-09 12:54 AM |
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so tell me, if its posted every day, will you actually bother to read the government's brief? |
onenote |
Dec-27-09 07:45 AM |
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Wow, is this the tactic you all decided on at the last meeting? |
jgraz |
Dec-27-09 01:20 PM |
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hey genius I posted a link to it yesterday in the deleted thread as well as today |
onenote |
Dec-27-09 04:57 PM |
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You'll be shocked to know I don't hang on your every post. |
jgraz |
Dec-27-09 11:05 PM |
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Glad you reposted this important op... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-27-09 12:55 AM |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Dec-27-09 12:56 AM |
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Thanks. Gives me a chance to Rec it again. K&R again! |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-27-09 01:07 AM |
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K & R |
democrank |
Dec-27-09 05:28 AM |
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Another post that disappeared . . . ???? What's going on at DU? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-27-09 05:49 AM |
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I think what is going on is compliance with copyright laws |
onenote |
Dec-27-09 07:45 AM |
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The Disappeared appear in America. |
panzerfaust |
Dec-27-09 05:50 AM |
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K&R! Thank you for reposting. |
juno jones |
Dec-27-09 07:26 AM |
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LOL! Great OP and This Post Was a Nice Side Dish |
theFrankFactor |
Dec-27-09 07:46 AM |
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Thanks! |
juno jones |
Dec-27-09 07:50 AM |
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K & R |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-27-09 07:29 AM |
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K & R. We need this kind of information as informed citizens. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-27-09 07:57 AM |
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Shocking beyond words |
rollingrock |
Dec-27-09 09:21 AM |
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K&R again |
RetroLounge |
Dec-27-09 09:37 AM |
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It's ever clearer why ObamaCo is protecting BushCo's criminal torturing ass. |
katandmoon |
Dec-27-09 10:06 AM |
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I want to thank you for posting this |
Slit Skirt |
Dec-27-09 10:08 AM |
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THANKS For the Re-Post! I "Wondered" WHY It Was Removed & Asked |
ChiciB1 |
Dec-27-09 10:10 AM |
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K&R |
Yuugal |
Dec-27-09 10:52 AM |
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Just one more pony that the left wants, their full civil rights |
MadHound |
Dec-27-09 10:58 AM |
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K&R...Should be pinned to the top. |
bvar22 |
Dec-27-09 11:43 AM |
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K&R. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Dec-27-09 11:44 AM |
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Thanks for bringing attention to this issue |
Alameda |
Dec-27-09 01:33 PM |
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Jeebus. I weep for my country -- |
kath |
Dec-27-09 03:07 PM |
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I am not sure I know how to respond |
AuntPatsy |
Dec-27-09 03:26 PM |
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K & R! nt |
earth mom |
Dec-27-09 03:48 PM |
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Posted on the original post. I'm shocked to see the venom posted here |
AllyCat |
Dec-27-09 04:04 PM |
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K&R |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-09 04:23 PM |
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K&R |
pleah |
Dec-27-09 05:07 PM |
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K & R...thank you for re posting this....this is so important.. |
winyanstaz |
Dec-27-09 06:58 PM |
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There's nothing like |
LWolf |
Dec-27-09 07:02 PM |
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Anywhere the political class is unafrid |
edc |
Dec-27-09 08:54 PM |
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knr |
kgnu_fan |
Dec-28-09 08:12 AM |
#179 |