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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #107
114. Again, like it or not
and you obviously don't, labor is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Lower skilled jobs are always going to be lower paid because the supply of people that can do that work is larger. Higher skilled jobs are always going to pay more, because the supply is smaller.

I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that there are so many people that want what someone else has, despite the fact that they haven't earned it.
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  -How do you make a living??? greytdemocrat  Dec-26-09 06:35 PM   #0 
  - I work for the federal government  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 06:37 PM   #1 
  - I work for the Military Industrial Complex  midnight armadillo   Dec-26-09 09:19 PM   #126 
  - Working, working.  Way2go   Dec-26-09 06:37 PM   #2 
  - Hello.  bigwillq   Dec-26-09 06:38 PM   #4 
  - Hmmm.  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 06:46 PM   #20 
  - Since last April I make my living  doc03   Dec-26-09 06:38 PM   #3 
  - That's great that you're happy with your employer!  Brickbat   Dec-26-09 06:38 PM   #5 
  - So true. Do you recall when the a-hs sold us on the idea of taking our manufacturing jobs to other  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 06:47 PM   #21 
  - This OP blows me away, frankly.  Brickbat   Dec-26-09 06:54 PM   #25 
     - Like it or not  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 06:59 PM   #28 
     - To paraphrase Thom Hartman  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-26-09 07:13 PM   #40 
     - Different strokes for different folks n/t  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:50 PM   #77 
     - This is why I will only work directly for a sole or majority owner, private company  elehhhhna   Dec-26-09 07:39 PM   #63 
     - capitalism  katkat   Dec-26-09 07:53 PM   #80 
     - If the stockholders aren't demanding their dismissal  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:54 PM   #83 
     - And can you guess just who those stock holder are?  notadmblnd   Dec-26-09 08:52 PM   #115 
     - Speak for yourself  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 09:43 PM   #131 
        - you like to pull shit out of your ass, don't you?  notadmblnd   Dec-26-09 10:10 PM   #143 
           - That's the collective "you"  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 10:12 PM   #145 
     - Government is supposed to make up for that rather nasty fact about  Raineyb   Dec-26-09 09:16 PM   #123 
     - I don't agree that government is supposed to  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 09:40 PM   #130 
     - Funny, some of the same corporations do pay people in other countries,  Jamastiene   Dec-27-09 06:45 PM   #196 
     - capitalism sure, but now government and corporations are merging, incredibly dangerous  natrat   Dec-27-09 07:51 PM   #205 
     - Capitalism is a system by the rich, for the rich. I'm hoping socialism takes its place  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 07:04 PM   #31 
     - You keep wishing for socialism  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:05 PM   #32 
        - Capitalism only moves in one direction, and it's not towards more equality nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 07:06 PM   #33 
           - I'm in favor of equal opportunity  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:15 PM   #42 
              - That's why capitalism is such a bad idea, because equality does not exist with it nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 07:16 PM   #43 
                 - Thank God for that  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:21 PM   #50 
                 - I get the feeling you're my brother-in-law, the Republican. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 07:26 PM   #53 
                 - Nope, not a man and not a Republican  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:29 PM   #54 
                    - I'm very funny at family gatherings, but my entire family is lib. Unlike you. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 07:30 PM   #55 
                       - Ah, got it  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:31 PM   #56 
                          - How come I get the feeling you're not even a Democrat? Just a hunch, ya know! nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 07:41 PM   #66 
                          - I guess simple thoughts for simple minds n/t  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:44 PM   #73 
                             - You wouldn't be the first nor the last right wingnut to pose as a Dem on DU  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 07:54 PM   #82 
                                - Keep believing what you like  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:55 PM   #84 
                                   - Uh-huh. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 08:00 PM   #86 
                          - You should see Sarah's reasoning on what makes a Repub.  Forkboy   Dec-26-09 07:41 PM   #67 
                 - What makes you think that poor people don't work hard?  Raineyb   Dec-26-09 09:18 PM   #125 
                 - And I think you have a reading comprehension problem  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 09:24 PM   #127 
                    - First off, you certainly don't read well enough to know what I think about myself  Raineyb   Dec-26-09 09:59 PM   #139 
                       - Have you bothered to read what I wrote?  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 10:09 PM   #142 
                          - Yes I did. Did you?  Raineyb   Dec-27-09 12:26 AM   #170 
                             - I didn't imply anything  FLDCVADem   Dec-27-09 09:57 AM   #182 
                                - Yes you did.  Raineyb   Dec-27-09 09:52 PM   #214 
                                   - And you obviously don't know the meaning of the word imply  FLDCVADem   Dec-27-09 09:53 PM   #215 
                 - Agreed, you should receive more compensation for taking the extra steps with training, experience..  haele   Dec-27-09 01:44 AM   #173 
                 - Dupe n/t  Jamastiene   Dec-27-09 07:00 PM   #198 
                 - Funny, that is EXACTLY what happened to me in my hometown.  Jamastiene   Dec-27-09 07:00 PM   #199 
                 - Can you explain why there should be equality of outcome?  Synicus Maximus   Dec-26-09 07:49 PM   #76 
                    - Good luck getting an answer  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 08:13 PM   #93 
                    - except it doesn't work like that  booley   Dec-26-09 08:33 PM   #107 
                    - Again, like it or not  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 08:51 PM   #114 
                    - Another straw man  booley   Dec-27-09 07:16 PM   #202 
                    - No, labor gets paid as little as management can connive. Slavery is preferred.  SharonAnn   Dec-27-09 10:49 PM   #218 
                    - And you might want to read Sarah's posts  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 08:56 PM   #117 
                    - That is why there should be a guaranteed minimum income.  Odin2005   Dec-27-09 10:43 PM   #217 
     - I think it's the Fundamental Attribution Error, from communications research.  mahina   Dec-26-09 08:37 PM   #110 
  - I can't help that. Jealous?  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 08:28 PM   #102 
     - No.  Brickbat   Dec-26-09 09:47 PM   # 
     - Dupe.  Brickbat   Dec-26-09 09:47 PM   #133 
  - How do you feel about NAFTA, Chinese labor, and the Marianas?  sandnsea   Dec-26-09 06:39 PM   #6 
  - Thanks! Moved here 2 years ago,  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 08:08 PM   #91 
     - And NAFTA? And the Marianas?  sandnsea   Dec-26-09 08:24 PM   #98 
  - So what are you going to do the day you get laid off because your  Cleita   Dec-26-09 06:39 PM   #7 
  - "They don't care about you once you have outlived your usefulness to them."  Lorien   Dec-26-09 06:42 PM   #13 
  - My son was sent to Singapore a few months ago.. why?  SoCalDem   Dec-26-09 08:15 PM   #95 
  - It's a game of cat and mouse. Some days you're the cat, some days you're the mouse.  TheCowsCameHome   Dec-26-09 06:45 PM   #16 
  - I am self-employed and have been most of my life.  asdjrocky   Dec-26-09 06:40 PM   #8 
  - Good on you dude.  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 08:31 PM   #106 
  - IT Consultant..My clients can vary  HipChick   Dec-26-09 06:41 PM   #9 
  - Public school teacher.  femmocrat   Dec-26-09 06:41 PM   #10 
  - I don't. N/T  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:18 PM   #45 
  - Wait...what? So this is a pro-corporatism thread?  leftstreet   Dec-26-09 06:42 PM   #11 
  - Spending pension checks.  TheCowsCameHome   Dec-26-09 06:42 PM   #12 
  - I work  rwheeler31   Dec-26-09 06:43 PM   #14 
  - Good for you! n/t  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 08:01 PM   #87 
  - Retired for 8 years with a pension thanks to  safeinOhio   Dec-26-09 06:43 PM   #15 
  - Nothing wrong with that. n/t.  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:47 PM   #74 
  - I'm a paralegal that works for a company hired by the fed govt nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 06:46 PM   #17 
  - That's nice. May The Force be with you, N/T.  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 08:17 PM   #96 
     - Believe me, when I got a job I was happy. I was out of a job for months and it  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-26-09 08:25 PM   # 
        - I wish it were the Repukes..  pipoman   Dec-27-09 12:09 AM   #169 
  - Longshoreman, and labor comes BEFORE capital.  Xicano   Dec-26-09 06:46 PM   #18 
  - Excellent point!  Quantess   Dec-26-09 06:55 PM   #27 
     - Cheers Quantess  Xicano   Dec-26-09 07:19 PM   #47 
  - When they ship your IT job to India, will you still appreciate your employer?  gmoney   Dec-26-09 06:46 PM   #19 
  - Unlikely...  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:08 PM   #35 
     - Believe it or not there are english schools for people geared for  Lisa0825   Dec-26-09 07:12 PM   #38 
  - Please take note of my sig line.  lpbk2713   Dec-26-09 06:48 PM   #22 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-26-09 07:12 PM   #37 
  - I manage a chocolate shop  JNelson6563   Dec-26-09 06:50 PM   #23 
  - We always patronize our local chocolatier!  femmocrat   Dec-26-09 06:53 PM   #24 
  - Cool!  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:21 PM   #51 
  - A few hours a week drawing for an architect, and unemployment compensation.  StarfarerBill   Dec-26-09 06:54 PM   #26 
  - Environmental Scientist  quaker bill   Dec-26-09 07:00 PM   #29 
  - Don't you know this is kindergarten logic in DU  BoneDaddy   Dec-26-09 07:02 PM   #30 
  - LOL!!! n/t  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:22 PM   #52 
  - I am a dog trainer and a small dog specialist.  Walk away   Dec-26-09 07:07 PM   #34 
  - I wish you lived near me....the mutts really need training but they  Thickasabrick   Dec-26-09 09:54 PM   #138 
  - I suck off the government tit  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-26-09 07:10 PM   #36 
  - I Love you!!!  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:39 PM   #64 
     - Love won't pay my salary  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-26-09 07:52 PM   #79 
        - Life sucks. n/t  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 08:03 PM   #88 
  - Independent contractor.  walldude   Dec-26-09 07:12 PM   #39 
  - It's the way other people make a living that is wrong  treestar   Dec-26-09 07:14 PM   #41 
  - I negotiate and secure easements for  bbinacan   Dec-26-09 07:18 PM   #44 
  - Manage a Hooters. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Dec-26-09 07:19 PM   #46 
  - WOOT! N/T!!!!  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:43 PM   #70 
  - Consider coming in on new effort.."Hung Like A Bull Burgers"  Walk away   Dec-26-09 08:05 PM   #90 
  - Are they hiring Product Managers?  rucky   Dec-26-09 07:19 PM   #48 
  - Sorry, no.  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:34 PM   #58 
  - Well, I never confuse who I am with what I do to make money  elocs   Dec-26-09 07:20 PM   #49 
  - I suck off the Federal Teat. Retired postal worker.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-26-09 07:32 PM   #57 
  - Ok...  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:37 PM   #59 
     - Help me do what? Get a raise?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-26-09 07:40 PM   #65 
  - I am a member of the majority working class aka wage slaves.  ipaint   Dec-26-09 07:37 PM   #60 
  - Where would your pay come from? nt/  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 07:38 PM   #61 
  - Corporatism:  Edweird   Dec-26-09 07:38 PM   #62 
  - 47 posts? And telling us how to behave. I hope they hire some H1Bs so they can lower your salary nt  conspirator   Dec-26-09 07:41 PM   #68 
  - pssst.....  Lisa0825   Dec-26-09 07:48 PM   #75 
  - +1  SammyWinstonJack   Dec-27-09 10:27 AM   #186 
  - i no longer work. my husband works  DesertFlower   Dec-26-09 07:43 PM   #69 
  - I appreciate your response...  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:58 PM   #85 
  - the people haven't been sent  DesertFlower   Dec-26-09 08:03 PM   #89 
  - Yes...I realize that.  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 08:14 PM   #94 
     - Let me ask you a question?  notadmblnd   Dec-26-09 09:17 PM   #124 
     - Smug? Not at all.  greytdemocrat   Dec-27-09 06:33 PM   #192 
        - I do think the average poster on DU is aware and it is one of the reasons why people are against .  notadmblnd   Dec-27-09 06:50 PM   #197 
     - here's just one photo of deformed children  notadmblnd   Dec-27-09 10:24 AM   #184 
  - One of our two major airlines shipped their entire IT division to India.  mahina   Dec-26-09 08:25 PM   #100 
  - Good For You!!  Johnny Harpo   Dec-27-09 01:32 AM   #171 
  - I agree with you.  Synicus Maximus   Dec-26-09 07:44 PM   #71 
  - I farm hair and I hug trees for a living.  Quantess   Dec-26-09 07:44 PM   #72 
  - Congrats!  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 07:50 PM   #78 
  - Thanks for the giggles  mahina   Dec-26-09 08:29 PM   # 
  - There are several regional & seasonal moving parts, as an IC I'm glad when they all come together...  bridgit   Dec-26-09 07:53 PM   #81 
  - United States Army  kdragon1010   Dec-26-09 08:12 PM   #92 
  - Welcome to DU.  mahina   Dec-26-09 08:28 PM   #103 
  - Hello.  bigwillq   Dec-26-09 08:38 PM   #111 
  - welcome,honest people are a breath of fresh air and there are serious crooks on both sides  natrat   Dec-27-09 07:56 PM   #206 
  - I don't see any problems so they must not exist  booley   Dec-26-09 08:22 PM   #97 
  - +1  SammyWinstonJack   Dec-27-09 10:30 AM   #187 
  - The DLC pays me to monitor DU and unrec threads  NoPasaran   Dec-26-09 08:25 PM   #99 
  - Did you find that job on monster.com?  Regret My New Name   Dec-26-09 11:51 PM   #165 
  - I own a traveling flea circus...winter is the slow season  pipi_k   Dec-26-09 08:27 PM   #101 
  - It's hard to compete with the other bloodsuckers.  Quantess   Dec-26-09 10:24 PM   #151 
     - snicker....  pipi_k   Dec-27-09 10:26 AM   #185 
  - I work for a corporation.  W_HAMILTON   Dec-26-09 08:29 PM   #104 
  - I sell exclamation points!!!!  mahina   Dec-26-09 08:30 PM   #105 
  - LOL!  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 08:33 PM   #108 
  - Why Obama???  mahina   Dec-26-09 08:34 PM   #109 
  - Any chance of getting a handful of parentheses and a couple of semi-colons?  pipi_k   Dec-26-09 08:42 PM   #112 
  - Corporations don't pay your salary. You pay the corporation profit on your labor.  Arctic Dave   Dec-26-09 08:47 PM   #113 
  - Now I've seen it all  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 08:54 PM   #116 
     - Never said someone's labor is more or less valuble.  Arctic Dave   Dec-27-09 03:50 PM   #188 
     - Fire isn't to blame when it burns down a house  booley   Dec-27-09 07:22 PM   #203 
     - We have a right to 100% of the value of our labor. Corporations steal most of it from us.  Odin2005   Dec-27-09 10:51 PM   #219 
  - So your position is that your corporate employer treats you well, therefore what?  Greyhound   Dec-26-09 08:57 PM   #118 
  - What would you define as as a "good" corporation? n/t  FLDCVADem   Dec-26-09 08:59 PM   #119 
  - There are any number of small incorporated companies that produce  Greyhound   Dec-26-09 11:25 PM   #162 
  - What do you mean...therefore what?  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 10:13 PM   #146 
     - Trying to see if there was any point to your post.  Greyhound   Dec-26-09 11:21 PM   #161 
  - I'm a chimney sweep.  Webster Green   Dec-26-09 09:07 PM   #120 
  - I worked for a major corporation  Raineyb   Dec-26-09 09:14 PM   #121 
  - Flamebait. It's apparently for breakfast.  HughBeaumont   Dec-27-09 08:40 AM   #177 
     - Hmmm.  greytdemocrat   Dec-27-09 06:17 PM   #190 
        - How exactly is it a "sweeping statement"?  HughBeaumont   Dec-27-09 07:10 PM   #200 
  - I retired from one of those 'too big to fail' banks.  jillan   Dec-26-09 09:14 PM   #122 
  - Good 'ol Department of Defense...  PacerLJ35   Dec-26-09 09:30 PM   #128 
  - Trader/quantitative analyst at some big nameless I-bank.  Lucky Luciano   Dec-26-09 09:34 PM   #129 
  - I work for Wal-mart.  Terra Alta   Dec-26-09 09:45 PM   #132 
  - No shit! How do you feel about all the posts wanting people to  Thickasabrick   Dec-26-09 09:49 PM   #135 
     - I respect their decision.  Terra Alta   Dec-26-09 10:11 PM   #144 
        - That is very cool of you....in so many towns now especially the rural areas,  Thickasabrick   Dec-26-09 10:23 PM   #150 
  - Category/Strategic Insights Manager for CPG Industry. Code for  Thickasabrick   Dec-26-09 09:48 PM   #134 
  - I get checks to stay home...retired on disability.  Historic NY   Dec-26-09 09:51 PM   #136 
  - retired, on SS disability, due to adult onset of a previously mis-diagnosed autoimmune disorder.  dysfunctional press   Dec-26-09 09:52 PM   #137 
  - I'm sorry to hear that DP,  greytdemocrat   Dec-26-09 10:18 PM   #149 
     - one more unfortunate turn to the story...  dysfunctional press   Dec-26-09 10:39 PM   #155 
  - I sell "dead peasant" insurance policies to Corps  mitchtv   Dec-26-09 10:00 PM   #140 
  - Really? Is it as bad as it sounds?? nt  Thickasabrick   Dec-26-09 10:25 PM   #152 
     - odds favor the benficiary $1m per dead employee  mitchtv   Dec-26-09 10:37 PM   #153 
        - Oh thank goodness....I am really hoping someone outlaws those things.  Thickasabrick   Dec-26-09 10:42 PM   #156 
  - I'm a regulatory affairs dweeb - but do alot of things  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Dec-26-09 10:05 PM   #141 
  - "It was a good deal for all...it depends on US shippers...aren't doing that great"  riderinthestorm   Dec-26-09 10:13 PM   #147 
  - Right now the State of North Carolina is keeping me  waiting for hope   Dec-26-09 10:18 PM   #148 
  - I work for a right wing entity,  1awake   Dec-26-09 10:38 PM   #154 
  - BS! I've never seen you at any of our meetings.  Regret My New Name   Dec-26-09 11:53 PM   #166 
  - There's nothing wrong with corporations. Most mean well.  baldguy   Dec-26-09 10:45 PM   #157 
  - A lawyer for Dewey, Cheatum and Howe.  Forkboy   Dec-26-09 10:52 PM   #158 
  - union firefighter  Bombero1956   Dec-26-09 10:54 PM   #159 
  - well, some of these responses proves one thing  Mari333   Dec-26-09 10:58 PM   #160 
  - I work for myself. We're a company of 2 and I'm sick and tired of watching  Doremus   Dec-26-09 11:28 PM   #163 
  - Well, it's nice to work for salary or hourly, and appreciate it, but ...  MrMickeysMom   Dec-26-09 11:50 PM   #164 
  - I work for a big, evil insurance company--not health insurance, but life  Common Sense Party   Dec-26-09 11:56 PM   #167 
  - I make "I H8 Corporatism" buttons at a button factory that's owned by 'Buttons 4 U Corp"  Regret My New Name   Dec-27-09 12:00 AM   #168 
  - I'm not.  LeftyMom   Dec-27-09 01:36 AM   #172 
  - I work in a factory that makes  Mendocino   Dec-27-09 05:10 AM   #174 
  - Delete.  TheWatcher   Dec-27-09 05:14 AM   #175 
  - Retired after 25 years in the U.S. Navy. Went to work as a  Thothmes   Dec-27-09 06:12 AM   #176 
  - About how much is your yearly salary if you don't mind me asking?  NNN0LHI   Dec-27-09 08:49 AM   #178 
  - Self-employed, incorporated. One employee: me.  mainer   Dec-27-09 09:19 AM   #179 
  - I guess the expression" It's not what you know,  Cetacea   Dec-27-09 09:22 AM   #180 
  - I work as a consultant for a large insurance/financial services/investment brokerage.  superduperfarleft   Dec-27-09 09:36 AM   #181 
  - "And neither I nor my employer have any illusions about "loyalty" to one another."  Lucky Luciano   Dec-27-09 10:07 AM   #183 
  - It happens. Everyone's situation is different. n/t  greytdemocrat   Dec-27-09 06:04 PM   #189 
  - I am the Queen of England  Mari333   Dec-27-09 06:18 PM   #191 
  - LOL!!!!  greytdemocrat   Dec-27-09 06:35 PM   #193 
  - I do loans  jtroy   Dec-27-09 06:39 PM   #194 
  - I work for a Food Bank.  Sisaruus   Dec-27-09 06:40 PM   #195 
  - Oh waaah.  Lucian   Dec-27-09 07:14 PM   #201 
  - I'm a software developer for my local county govt.  paparush   Dec-27-09 07:23 PM   #204 
  - Film editor for non profit cable station.  graywarrior   Dec-27-09 07:58 PM   #207 
  - We are retired and live off my husband's Teamster pension, his Social Security  quiller4   Dec-27-09 08:21 PM   #208 
  - I work for the evil nasty phone company.  Touchdown   Dec-27-09 08:36 PM   #209 
  - I steal hubcaps.  GreenTea   Dec-27-09 08:53 PM   #210 
  - self-unemployed  H2O Man   Dec-27-09 09:02 PM   #211 
  - Plutocrat.  moondust   Dec-27-09 09:06 PM   #212 
  - I work for a small company and directly for the owner, who is also a lib dem  Tailormyst   Dec-27-09 09:15 PM   #213 
  - I work through an job placement company for the disabled.  Odin2005   Dec-27-09 10:26 PM   #216 
 

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