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| 34. You have the Right to remain silent, and the Right to have an attorney present |
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during questioning.
There are good reasons why it's that way.
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| -The Terrible Advice: Never Talk to the Police |
paulsby |
Dec-26-09 12:32 AM |
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Thanks, but no thanks! |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 12:40 AM |
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if you want to listen to somebody who has |
paulsby |
Dec-26-09 12:48 AM |
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Cops follow instructions from other cops. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 12:53 AM |
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wow. bigotry exposed |
paulsby |
Dec-26-09 12:57 AM |
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Many cops actively violate the constitution daily. Do you deny this? |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 12:59 AM |
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You know, I'm getting pretty tired of your "hate all cops" |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 08:10 AM |
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I'm getting pretty tired of your personal attacks. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 08:14 AM |
#56 |
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Where did I claim to be a Democrat for 1 year? |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 08:39 AM |
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Didn't you join here a year ago and claim you'd left Free Republic after years & years there? |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 08:44 AM |
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Yes, I was at Free Republic for some time. I posted there many |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 09:02 AM |
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One further note: It appears that you have been here only |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 09:15 AM |
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LOL! That's |
billh58 |
Dec-26-09 01:08 PM |
#113 |
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Well Paul I gotta a story to tell |
Saboburns |
Dec-26-09 09:47 AM |
#93 |
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It's America. We don't lick jackboots. |
tabasco |
Dec-26-09 10:59 PM |
#140 |
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You are obviously |
billh58 |
Dec-26-09 01:24 AM |
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I care about innocent people going to prison. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:29 AM |
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Meh.. |
billh58 |
Dec-26-09 01:50 AM |
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I care about the Bill of Rights, which you don't care about. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 02:06 AM |
#33 |
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Ah, that explains a lot: |
billh58 |
Dec-26-09 12:50 PM |
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Shakespeare's words were a warning about those who hate lawyers. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:08 PM |
#114 |
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I have no beef |
billh58 |
Dec-26-09 01:27 PM |
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You're a mall cop. Fine. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:36 PM |
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Actually, I am |
billh58 |
Dec-26-09 01:45 PM |
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+1 nt |
Obamanaut |
Dec-26-09 07:59 AM |
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TexasObserver made a good point |
JonLP24 |
Dec-26-09 08:13 AM |
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Yeah.. |
sendero |
Dec-26-09 09:04 AM |
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I love how quickly logic flies right out the window on these sorts of discussions |
Posteritatis |
Dec-26-09 07:39 AM |
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I think that part of the problem is that some police have abused and do abuse their authority. |
Caliman73 |
Dec-28-09 01:03 PM |
#149 |
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And your experience is one sided. |
merh |
Dec-26-09 01:19 AM |
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I'll stick with the advice of ACTUAL attorneys who have even more experience |
Greyhound |
Dec-26-09 12:26 PM |
#110 |
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Anonymous internet-based entity claiming to be a police officer |
varelse |
Dec-26-09 10:32 PM |
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you got that right |
katkat |
Dec-26-09 01:15 AM |
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The assumption that all cops are well meaning and thorough is wrong. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:21 AM |
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Anyone who doesn't believe that.. |
sendero |
Dec-26-09 09:06 AM |
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Wrongful convictions |
billh58 |
Dec-26-09 12:55 PM |
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You're not right about anything that relates to this topic. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:13 PM |
#115 |
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Uh, not exactly true |
billh58 |
Dec-26-09 01:33 PM |
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The prosecutor always makes the decision whether to prosecute. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:39 PM |
#130 |
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There you go again with |
billh58 |
Dec-26-09 01:51 PM |
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Don't you have a 13 year old to arrest for stealing a lighter? |
TexasObserver |
Dec-28-09 12:10 PM |
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EVERYBODY LISTEN: THE OP IS A COP. THE OP IS LIKE ADVICE FROM NESTLÉ ABOUT BREAST MILK VS. FORMULA. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-09 08:39 AM |
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OK. MESSAGE RECEIVED. N/T reduces volume |
Obamanaut |
Dec-26-09 09:08 AM |
#72 |
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Uh, shouting does not make your point any stronger. |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 09:24 AM |
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I wanted it to be loud. Just this once. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-09 09:33 AM |
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That trick never works. |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 09:46 AM |
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Well, it worked with you. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-26-09 09:51 AM |
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Not really. I just noticed that you were shouting. I'd have to |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 10:00 AM |
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+1 |
Raineyb |
Dec-26-09 01:19 PM |
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I can vouch for that... |
wuvuj |
Dec-26-09 08:59 AM |
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Absolutely, NEVER TRUST A COP OR TALK TO A COP |
WeDidIt |
Dec-26-09 09:42 AM |
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A lawyer and a cop agree |
safeinOhio |
Dec-26-09 12:51 AM |
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yes, i've seen that |
paulsby |
Dec-26-09 12:55 AM |
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It's obvious that there are certain clearly defined situations where saying something will help. |
Pithlet |
Dec-28-09 12:42 PM |
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Great example |
safeinOhio |
Dec-26-09 12:58 AM |
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Why do I get the feeling that the OP |
JNelson6563 |
Dec-26-09 07:19 AM |
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I might add... |
joeunderdog |
Dec-26-09 10:55 PM |
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As a former LEO myself I can certainly agree with this part: |
The Straight Story |
Dec-26-09 12:57 AM |
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If you can't say the pastor is my alibi |
sandnsea |
Dec-26-09 01:00 AM |
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I don't buy that shit. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Dec-26-09 01:02 AM |
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It's not your age or the time. It's just common sense. |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 09:30 AM |
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This is a ridiculous example for the |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Dec-26-09 01:03 AM |
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If I'm guilty, talking to the police would be a bad idea. |
Kaleva |
Dec-26-09 01:06 AM |
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Perhaps you should go read up on the conviction and impeachment |
merh |
Dec-26-09 01:23 AM |
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I know most of the cops in my area... |
Kaleva |
Dec-26-09 01:35 AM |
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That speaks more towards the suspicious nature of the cops |
merh |
Dec-26-09 09:39 AM |
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Is that a direct quote from the Bill of Rights? |
me b zola |
Dec-26-09 06:34 AM |
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No. That was what is called "common sense." |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 09:32 AM |
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I prefer the "common sense" of the founders |
me b zola |
Dec-26-09 10:27 PM |
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Follow the first link in post #25. This has nothing to do with being guilty or innocent. |
JTFrog |
Dec-26-09 06:54 AM |
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Pull the other one so they're even, would you? |
LeftyMom |
Dec-26-09 01:07 AM |
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You have the right to remain silent |
merh |
Dec-26-09 01:14 AM |
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A few years ago I was divorced from my |
safeinOhio |
Dec-26-09 01:17 AM |
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Yes, misuse of the position in domestic disputes is a chronic problem. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:25 AM |
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So you are saying there is no need for the average citizen |
safeinOhio |
Dec-26-09 01:28 AM |
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You posted to yourself. Where does that post go? |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:31 AM |
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Sorry, to the OP |
safeinOhio |
Dec-26-09 08:36 AM |
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I brought it up so you could repost it as a response to the OP. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 08:46 AM |
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Searches are another issue, of course, and have little to |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 09:36 AM |
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it is impossible for you to be 100% sure you have nothing illegal in your vehicle. |
uncle ray |
Dec-26-09 11:11 AM |
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Never verbally talk to cops |
Onceuponalife |
Dec-26-09 01:28 AM |
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Talking to the police is FOOLISH! Watch this ... |
Liberal In Texas |
Dec-26-09 01:29 AM |
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Those are great links. |
diamidue |
Dec-26-09 01:29 PM |
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Dude, I spend time at "other" boards, and even those troglodytes |
galileoreloaded |
Dec-26-09 01:33 AM |
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Good Advice - Never Talk to the Cops |
OutNow |
Dec-26-09 01:34 AM |
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"...she could probably sue him." |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-26-09 01:39 AM |
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You have the Right to remain silent, and the Right to have an attorney present |
ixion |
Dec-26-09 06:00 AM |
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Ron White: "I had the RIGHT, but not the good sense, to remain silent." |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:24 PM |
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Best advice my asshole cop RW uncle ever gave: When dealing with cops, don't volunteer anything. |
baldguy |
Dec-26-09 06:27 AM |
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Fuck that. |
JTFrog |
Dec-26-09 06:48 AM |
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You got that right |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-26-09 07:15 AM |
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+1000 |
L0oniX |
Dec-26-09 10:53 AM |
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I don't know what planet you live on. |
cornermouse |
Dec-26-09 06:49 AM |
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It depends on experience |
JonLP24 |
Dec-26-09 06:58 AM |
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hmmnnnnn |
thenooch |
Dec-26-09 07:09 AM |
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Try telling that to this father once |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-26-09 07:12 AM |
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My 'talking to police' experiences have always been positive. nt |
Obamanaut |
Dec-26-09 07:15 AM |
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Neither extreme is a good idea |
Taitertots |
Dec-26-09 07:17 AM |
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Lol, no thank you. |
asdjrocky |
Dec-26-09 07:47 AM |
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Cop takes Fifth -- 153 times in 51 minutes |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-26-09 07:57 AM |
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Don't Talk to Cops, Part 1 - From a lawyer |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-26-09 08:00 AM |
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Don't Talk to Cops, Part 2 - From a detective |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-26-09 08:01 AM |
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Good post. Thanks. |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 08:08 AM |
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Not like getting pulled over and asked |
safeinOhio |
Dec-26-09 08:50 AM |
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Sorry, but I don't agree with you. |
MineralMan |
Dec-26-09 09:09 AM |
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That's all well and fine, but..... |
Xicano |
Dec-26-09 01:31 PM |
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When a cop asks you questions like "where have you been" or "where are you going" |
rd_kent |
Dec-26-09 01:43 PM |
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Well, you're lucky because some of us have gotten |
Kind of Blue |
Dec-26-09 09:19 AM |
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Yours is one of many such horror stories. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 09:36 AM |
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I hate crying unexpectedly but your words of |
Kind of Blue |
Dec-26-09 09:46 AM |
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If you attended a group session of women who have been sexually assaulted ... |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 09:52 AM |
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Thank goodness that there is such a thing! |
Kind of Blue |
Dec-26-09 10:18 AM |
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Yeah, the whole "respect" thing pisses me off. |
rd_kent |
Dec-26-09 01:46 PM |
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Even politeness without a certain level |
Kind of Blue |
Dec-27-09 07:17 AM |
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Sarah Had a Church Full Of Witnesses |
NashVegas |
Dec-26-09 08:16 AM |
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I live with the Police, so not talking to them is not an option...nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Dec-26-09 08:21 AM |
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BWAHAHAAHAAAA!! |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-26-09 08:43 AM |
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+1 |
JonLP24 |
Dec-26-09 08:45 AM |
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Bad example n/t |
dajoki |
Dec-26-09 08:43 AM |
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Newsflash! Cop says trust cops! |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-26-09 09:16 AM |
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+1 |
L0oniX |
Dec-26-09 10:57 AM |
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A month ago I was driving |
eilen |
Dec-26-09 09:31 AM |
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Bullshit. |
H2O Man |
Dec-26-09 09:32 AM |
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As a lawyer with 25 years+ in practice |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-26-09 09:33 AM |
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"Jails are filled with people who didn't." is right. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 09:45 AM |
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Maybe it depends on the department |
treestar |
Dec-26-09 09:39 AM |
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I was a LEO as well, |
1awake |
Dec-26-09 09:42 AM |
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If we were frequent fliers your advice might work |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-26-09 10:05 AM |
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And don't forget being targeted for political bumper stickers. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 10:08 AM |
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That happened to my son driving my car!!! |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-26-09 12:03 PM |
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That's a common problem. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:18 PM |
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The old "probable cause" for searching your car..... |
rd_kent |
Dec-26-09 01:53 PM |
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Back when I lived in Oregon, I was driving through the town where I lived |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-26-09 10:10 AM |
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In other words GUILTY TILL PROVEN INNOCENT, and even then, still a frequent flyer. |
Gman2 |
Dec-26-09 10:15 AM |
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"where are you coming from?" "where are you going?" None of your fucking business! |
L0oniX |
Dec-26-09 11:02 AM |
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Instead of talking, use interpretive dance. |
alfredo |
Dec-26-09 11:12 AM |
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The typical police line "let me help you" is simply to make it easier for them to get you convicted |
DainBramaged |
Dec-26-09 11:12 AM |
#107 |
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Well said. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:20 PM |
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Here's my Christmas story. |
Ikonoklast |
Dec-26-09 11:45 AM |
#108 |
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That is great advice from your attorney brothers. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-26-09 01:22 PM |
#122 |
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I'll take your advice into consideration and ignore it as it should be. |
Raineyb |
Dec-26-09 01:15 PM |
#116 |
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Officer George Bruch disagrees. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-26-09 01:19 PM |
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This coming from a cop? |
tekisui |
Dec-26-09 01:19 PM |
#119 |
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Anything you say can and will be used against you. |
PassingFair |
Dec-26-09 01:24 PM |
#123 |
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Can and will...can and will...can and will... |
Iggo |
Dec-27-09 12:41 AM |
#144 |
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It is the most simple of risk management exercises. |
pundaint |
Dec-26-09 01:44 PM |
#132 |
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only cops thinks its a good idea to talk to cops |
yodoobo |
Dec-26-09 11:09 PM |
#141 |
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LOL. Bullshit! |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-27-09 12:21 AM |
#142 |
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Good advice: Don't take advice from cops either |
undeterred |
Dec-27-09 12:38 AM |
#143 |
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Online or off |
Echo In Light |
Dec-28-09 01:05 PM |
#150 |
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Im happy if they don't shoot me n/t |
KrR |
Dec-27-09 07:20 AM |
#146 |
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