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justinaforjustice Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:01 PM
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99. Emanuel Is a Sleazy Corporate Lobbyist, Obama Chose Him. But...
I couldn't agree more with your critique of Emanuel. He represents the corporate wing of the Democratic Party and the saner wing of the Republican Party, many of whom now support the DLC Taken together, these groups form the Democorporate or Republidem Party. Unfortunately, we are discovering that Obama too is a Republidem. Obama-Emanuel would be very happy to destroy the progressive wing of the Democratic Party so they and their corporate buddies can reign supreme in untroubled serenity.

But, forming an alliance with Grover Norquist, whose own goal is to destroy progressives, indeed all Democrats, just to attack Rahm on a fairly collateral issue, however factually justified, in hopes of bringing Rahm down is a diversion from our main job of keeping the progressive congressional reps united in supporting a stronger bill and electing progressive Dems to replace the Blue Dogs that Rahm put in office while head of the DCCC and to replace the conservadems in the Senate, to whom Rahm and Obama pander.

I'm sure Jane realizes that Attorney General Holder has no intention of investigating Rahm, with or without the signature of Grover Norquist. Nor will Congress do so. The demand letter is meaningless.

But, as a result of signing the demand letter with Norquist, Jane has created a serious division among those who oppose the Senate Bill and very much want to work for an improved bill with the public option, if not single-payer. That this division has been created is clear from the many, many posts on Dailykos and DU taking sides on the issue of Jane and Norquist.

So instead of debating how we are going to keep the progressive congressional reps strong and how we can find and elect more progressive Dems and truly destroy Rahm's power, we are debating Jane, Grover and Rahm. Jane has thus weakened her own credibility among some progressives, when we need so much to speak with one voice to pass a decent health bill.








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  -Jane Hamsher, Grover Norquist Call for Rahm Emanuels Resignation seafan  Dec-26-09 12:11 AM   #0 
  - Proud to be rec three. And let the trolls begin! n/t  truedelphi   Dec-26-09 12:18 AM   #1 
  - the issue is not jane or norquist, it is emanuel  natrat   Dec-26-09 10:37 AM   #42 
  - if you wonder about the character of another person  truedelphi   Dec-26-09 01:56 PM   #92 
  - Emanuel Is a Sleazy Corporate Lobbyist, Obama Chose Him. But...  justinaforjustice   Dec-26-09 03:01 PM   #99 
  - Also proud to Rec....#37  bvar22   Dec-26-09 12:01 PM   #75 
  - Didn't Rahm appoint Obama to be  truedelphi   Dec-26-09 02:43 PM   #96 
     - Thanks.  bvar22   Dec-26-09 04:43 PM   #105 
  - They're already here.  Bobbie Jo   Dec-27-09 10:30 PM   #123 
  - I hope Jane doesn't become a pawn for the RW  FarLeftFist   Dec-26-09 12:23 AM   #2 
  - She wouls only ne compromised if it was a tinfoil hat type issue.  snagglepuss   Dec-26-09 01:25 AM   #6 
  - When The Left and The Right agree....  bvar22   Dec-26-09 12:03 PM   #76 
     - The Right don't "agree" with us--they simply want Democrats out of power.  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 12:38 PM   #80 
        - Rahm was once a dirty word at DU...  bvar22   Dec-26-09 01:13 PM   #86 
           - Norquist used to be an even dirtier word.  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 01:33 PM   #91 
              - Thanks for Posting Norquist's History.  justinaforjustice   Dec-26-09 03:13 PM   #101 
  - I call for Jane Hamsher's resignation  TheWebHead   Dec-26-09 12:24 AM   #3 
  - +1  Autonomy   Dec-26-09 12:54 AM   #5 
  - and Norquist's resignation  WillYourVoteBCounted   Dec-26-09 07:15 PM   #110 
  - These people are fucking crazy. And one of them calls Rahm a "criminal".  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 12:33 AM   #4 
  - Very good chance he is a criminal. Why is there no Inspector General appointed? Could it  bertman   Dec-26-09 10:22 AM   #39 
     - Is there a good chance YOU'RE a criminal? I think so. I think we should investigate.  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 10:44 AM   #43 
     - Puerile . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-26-09 11:08 AM   #51 
     - That's the sum of firebagger argument.  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 11:10 AM   #53 
        - Your resort to reliance on personal attacks makes clear that the childishness  defendandprotect   Dec-26-09 11:18 AM   #56 
           - LOL. Can't handle the truth.  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 11:19 AM   #57 
              - Your use of the word "firebagger" says it all, TwilightGardener. People who have been  bertman   Dec-26-09 11:42 AM   #65 
                 - Kind of like "cheerleaders", huh?  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 11:44 AM   #66 
                    - Very sad.  bertman   Dec-26-09 11:51 AM   #68 
                       - It IS sad. But that's where we are.  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 11:59 AM   #74 
     - +1  suzie   Dec-26-09 02:19 PM   #94 
     - Agree overall -- and admire Jane Hamsher, as well -- Sharp lady!!  defendandprotect   Dec-26-09 11:08 AM   #50 
        - Oooh, exciting! IMPEACH!!!11!  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 11:11 AM   #54 
           - Thanks for the bigger hint . . . you're now on "Ignore" . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-26-09 11:19 AM   #58 
              - OH NOES!1!!  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 11:20 AM   #59 
              - Wow, maybe if we start to impeach Obama now, it'll give Dennis Kucinich  suzie   Dec-26-09 02:25 PM   #95 
                 - No one but YOU is suggesting that, suzie . . . needless to say....  defendandprotect   Dec-26-09 05:35 PM   #109 
                    - No one I know would have thougtht that any Democrat would be talking about  suzie   Dec-27-09 03:51 AM   #119 
                    - No one I know would have thougtht that any Democrat would be talking about  suzie   Dec-27-09 03:53 AM   #120 
  - Serves Emanuel well, given that he despises and dismisses progressives. :)  inna   Dec-26-09 03:43 AM   #7 
  - The issues raised in the letter gained credibility, I thought, with the Christmas Eve story  laughingliberal   Dec-26-09 03:43 AM   #8 
  - Hamsher is an idiot  ProSense   Dec-26-09 03:48 AM   #9 
  - So are her fellow trolls  NNN0LHI   Dec-26-09 06:18 AM   #15 
  - Hamscher is not an idiot--she's a duplicitous poser. nt  live love laugh   Dec-26-09 10:52 AM   #44 
  - team up with Grover and threaten to work against Bernie. That tells it all.  cali   Dec-26-09 04:22 AM   #10 
  - the "meme" that Rahm has done something criminal? you KNOW it can't be so--how? (nt)  ima_sinnic   Dec-26-09 06:18 AM   #14 
  - lol. that's not how it works, dear. How do I know you didn't  cali   Dec-26-09 06:22 AM   #17 
     - so nothing stated in the letter even hints at evidence of crminal activity?  ima_sinnic   Dec-26-09 06:27 AM   #19 
  - RAHM HASN'T DONE ANYTHING CRIMINAL! Well I Guess You Might Say That...  ChiciB1   Dec-26-09 10:52 AM   #45 
  - It's just that and it's indicative of a certain amount of desperation  HughMoran   Dec-26-09 11:04 AM   #49 
     - Sweets, I Worked VERY HARD To Get Him Elected! Not MY First Choice...  ChiciB1   Dec-26-09 12:46 PM   #82 
  - K&R  Dr.Phool   Dec-26-09 05:04 AM   #11 
  - It was just another outrage that Obama took Rahm into the White House!!!  defendandprotect   Dec-26-09 06:06 AM   #12 
  - Fantasy politics. Idiotic.  cali   Dec-26-09 06:10 AM   #13 
     - Well You Can Just Come On Down... Down Here To Florida & Help Everyone  ChiciB1   Dec-26-09 11:00 AM   #47 
        - There is a good deal of difference  polmaven   Dec-26-09 12:22 PM   #79 
           - You really ought to come down to Florida for an eye-opener.  Dr.Phool   Dec-26-09 01:03 PM   #85 
              - Well, the point of my post  polmaven   Dec-26-09 01:14 PM   #87 
  - now I'm sorry I criticized the idea of a "team of rivals"--such teams are what will finally  ima_sinnic   Dec-26-09 06:21 AM   #16 
  - hahahahaha. yes, teaming up with that man of the people, Grover Norquist  cali   Dec-26-09 06:26 AM   #18 
     - who said anything about "saving the party"?  ima_sinnic   Dec-26-09 06:31 AM   #20 
     - You still don't get it, do you? It's not red team vs blue team....  SandWalker1984   Dec-26-09 11:54 AM   #71 
     - Oh my God. You think Norquist is a VISIONARY who wants the  TwilightGardener   Dec-26-09 12:08 PM   #77 
     - project much?...  inna   Dec-26-09 04:46 PM   #106 
  - When You Lie Down With Dogs...  KharmaTrain   Dec-26-09 06:56 AM   #21 
  - Maybe that covers the situation with Obama eloping into WH with Rahm....? "Lie down with dogs?"  defendandprotect   Dec-26-09 07:54 AM   #23 
     - Eloping?  KharmaTrain   Dec-26-09 07:59 AM   #25 
        - It wasn't either like Obama told us that he was going with DLC and corporates . . .!!!  defendandprotect   Dec-26-09 08:21 AM   #30 
        - Then You Weren't Paying Attention  KharmaTrain   Dec-26-09 08:55 AM   #37 
           - The Far Left is  billh58   Dec-26-09 07:49 PM   #113 
           - False. Rahm was far from an early Obama endorser. June 4th 2008 was quite late.  JVS   Dec-27-09 10:35 PM   #126 
        - "this surely isn't the way to get rid of him."  bvar22   Dec-26-09 11:57 AM   #73 
  - The "oh so innocent" Rahm.  ipaint   Dec-26-09 07:21 AM   #22 
  - Right . . . and I had no idea of this -- I did know that Freddie/Fannie  defendandprotect   Dec-26-09 07:57 AM   #24 
  - Thank you for those important articles, ipaint.  seafan   Dec-26-09 11:37 AM   #63 
  - Eyeopening. This should be a separate post.  snagglepuss   Dec-27-09 12:50 AM   #118 
  - Jane Hamsher and the firebaggers can go drown themselves in a bathtub  WeDidIt   Dec-26-09 08:14 AM   #26 
  - What's your friend over at FR say about all this.  ipaint   Dec-26-09 08:17 AM   #28 
     - pissant is no friend of mine  WeDidIt   Dec-26-09 08:21 AM   #32 
     - How many should we read? You seem to be well versed  ipaint   Dec-26-09 08:33 AM   #35 
     - Any one of his posts in any of the "certifigate" threads  WeDidIt   Dec-26-09 09:16 AM   #38 
     - links, please?  inna   Dec-26-09 04:50 PM   #108 
     - i missed that - does anyone have a link?  inna   Dec-26-09 04:49 PM   #107 
  - K&R.  Vidar   Dec-26-09 08:16 AM   #27 
  - I feel obligated to support whomever calls for Rahm's resignation.  JVS   Dec-26-09 08:19 AM   #29 
  - so if Fred Phelps calls for his resignation or David Duke, you feel obligated  cali   Dec-26-09 08:21 AM   #31 
     - If Rahm gets trouble from anyone, I don't give a shit about him.  JVS   Dec-26-09 08:22 AM   #33 
  - A decade of the left partnering with norquist on civil rights issues and  ipaint   Dec-26-09 08:27 AM   #34 
  - The problem is  daa   Dec-26-09 08:44 AM   #36 
  - Recognition that CORPORATISM is the #1 enemy of Americans left, right & center, is LONG OVERDUE..K&R  Faryn Balyncd   Dec-26-09 10:29 AM   #40 
  - Rec. If we get rid of Rahm, that's one less cockroach to step on in this administration.  bertman   Dec-26-09 10:31 AM   #41 
  - The bill has to DIE before Americans become financial slaves to the insurance industry  Nikki Stone1   Dec-26-09 10:58 AM   #46 
  - Christmas Eve: 'US removes $400b cap on aid to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac'  seafan   Dec-26-09 11:03 AM   #48 
  - On Christmas Eve: Massive bailouts to Big Ins/Big Pharma by Senate AND to Freddie/Fannie by WH  seafan   Dec-26-09 09:34 PM   #115 
  - K & R. Emmanuel is the central figure in the current rightward drift of the admin.  freddie mertz   Dec-26-09 11:10 AM   #52 
  - I'm not a fan of Rahm Emanuel, but this just looks idiotic.  Frank Booth   Dec-26-09 11:16 AM   #55 
  - A good example of bi-partisanship. Unlike the Obama example of bi-partisanship where  scentopine   Dec-26-09 11:26 AM   #61 
  - Actually Ed Kelly , the inspector general was conducting an  ipaint   Dec-26-09 11:53 AM   #69 
  - This story seems especially relevant now.  SandWalker1984   Dec-26-09 11:22 AM   #60 
  - Great additional info, thanks. It's time the spotlight falls on Emanuel.  seafan   Dec-26-09 11:49 AM   #67 
  - thanks for this link. nt  inna   Dec-26-09 12:15 PM   #78 
  - K&R. FUCK RAHM!!!  Odin2005   Dec-26-09 11:32 AM   #62 
  - Jane Hamsher, Grover Norquist , AND bvar22....  bvar22   Dec-26-09 11:41 AM   #64 
  - Oh please.  kstewart33   Dec-26-09 11:54 AM   #70 
  - I'd be happy to see malfeasence rooted out of government  scentopine   Dec-26-09 12:42 PM   #81 
     - Man, that's a mouthful.  kstewart33   Dec-26-09 01:19 PM   #90 
     - LOL! What a thoughtful response. Spoken like Ayn Rand herself.  scentopine   Dec-26-09 01:57 PM   #93 
     - so centrists, moderates and realists represent malfeasance?  tigereye   Dec-26-09 08:17 PM   #114 
        - I think you may have responded to the wrong post and  scentopine   Dec-26-09 11:44 PM   #117 
           - I am totally opposed to torture - it is never acceptable  tigereye   Dec-27-09 05:34 PM   #121 
              - Trillions of dollars wasted, 100,000+ whose lifetime of savings is gone  scentopine   Dec-27-09 10:29 PM   #122 
                 - Thanks so much for expressing so well the disdain Obama and others has for the left.  ipaint   Dec-27-09 10:38 PM   #127 
                 - wow, sad that you can't see anything positive that has been done  tigereye   Dec-28-09 12:06 PM   #130 
  - This is obviously an attention getting mechinism on Jane's part  Hamlette   Dec-26-09 11:55 AM   #72 
  - LOL! Yes, blame the liberal media. Obama's whitehouse  scentopine   Dec-26-09 12:59 PM   #84 
  - AMEN BROTHER.  snagglepuss   Dec-26-09 11:17 PM   #116 
  - Jane openly acknowledges that, if you bother to read the OP.  bvar22   Dec-26-09 01:16 PM   #89 
     - my mind would explode if I read all of her drivel  Hamlette   Dec-26-09 03:11 PM   #100 
        - Judging by your posts,  bvar22   Dec-26-09 03:52 PM   #103 
           - Not sure why you decided to get personal  Hamlette   Dec-26-09 07:35 PM   #111 
  - Rahm was terrible choice for many reasons, including this:  amborin   Dec-26-09 12:51 PM   #83 
  - Recall "Red State"/Blue State" divide and conquer  azygous   Dec-26-09 01:16 PM   #88 
  - You are right on the money, azygous. We the People comprise the Team of Rivals.  seafan   Dec-26-09 02:44 PM   #97 
  - +1  leftstreet   Dec-26-09 03:14 PM   #102 
  - I loathe Rahm Emmanuel  Blue_In_AK   Dec-26-09 02:55 PM   #98 
  - I don't think aligning with Norquist is an effective strategy for destroying corporate control  fishwax   Dec-26-09 04:23 PM   #104 
  - Thanks for posting the Hamsher's and Norquist's letter to the Attorney General.  snagglepuss   Dec-26-09 07:48 PM   #112 
  - RAHM EMANUEL IS A CANCER ON THE PRESIDENCY!  nikto   Dec-27-09 10:34 PM   #124 
  - Into the media gutter she goes  chimpyisstillsatan   Dec-27-09 10:34 PM   #125 
  - She is the company she keeps -- Norquist and Fox News.  Lord Helmet   Dec-27-09 11:37 PM   #128 
  - Rahm needs to be kicked to the curb. I don't give a flying fuck who gets the job done. nt  earth mom   Dec-27-09 11:41 PM   #129 
 

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